army-of-brides.com

[FSUrookie]

Anybody familiar with "army-of-brides.com"?
Any feedback is appreciated.

www.army-of-brides.com

[Michelangelo]

Anybody familiar with "army-of-brides.com"?
Any feedback is appreciated.

www.army-of-brides.com

Stay away from them, Rook.  I dated a girl once who was listed with them and she said they were crooked.  That's from the horse's mouth.

What area do you want to visit?  Let me know, and I'll advice agencies that are better.

For you guys searching, don't handicap yourself be starting out with a bad agency.  It's difficult enough with a good one!

Good luck, Rook.

[Gator]

The "horse's mouth" is a great resource. 

Just a quick review of the agency's website does not pass the smell test.

Others feel the same:

http://agencyscams.com/Why/Hanuma.htm

http://www.antiscam.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&thold=-1&mode=flat&order=0&sid=232

Also, the site shows bare-breasted women.  Sleaze. 

Personally, I recommend that you avoid any woman who shows bikini photos in her profile. 

If you are looking for a large, multinational listing agency, select one such as Elena’s Models or Angelica.  These two agencies identify whether the women are recent additions, English skills, and other important info.

[Michelangelo]

Personally, I recommend that you avoid any woman who shows bikini photos in her profile. 

Good point, Bucky.  At the very least bikini pictures are red flag.

Just yesterday, I had an email from a friend, asking my advice on several FSU girls, and he sent pics.

One girl was by the water with a bikini on.  Puzzeled, my girl asked me

"do you think it's correct?"

I told her no.

[BillyB]

FSUrookie,

The moment you pay to open one letter from a woman who didn't send it at Army of Brides, you've been scammed. Set up a free profile saying you're an short, fat, bald, 78 year old man in a wheelchair with some strange habits interseted in women 18-30 and watch how many letters get sent to your e-mail. Of course to respond and correspond with the ladies/office worker who sent them you must pay for it, otherwise it's free to do this test.

The short answer to your question is they are an agency that scams people.

[TexasBoar]

This seems as good a point as any at which to ask . . . what becomes of the women who end up listed with a "bad agency?"  I'm assuming not ALL of them are in on the scam, simply on the "three can keep a secret if two are dead" principle.

Are they simply locked out of the loop, unavailable to those who know enough to avoid the scam agencies, but also unavailable to those poor chumps paying to answer fake e's?

Weird question, I know.  Not enough coffee yet.

~Boar

[Bruno]

Good point, Bucky.  At the very least bikini pictures are red flag.

Just yesterday, I had an email from a friend, asking my advice on several FSU girls, and he sent pics.

One girl was by the water with a bikini on.  Puzzeled, my girl asked me

"do you think it's correct?"

I told her no.

Why it is not correct ? During your holiday, do you close your eyes when you are walking on the beach... Do you remove from the family album all photo's of your wife where she is in bikini during some holiday ?

It is not the bikini who is a Red flag but maybe the composition of the photo...

The following picture is from a Russian women from 40 year old... i see nothing shocking...


Now, a other example... who is involve more provocation...


Don't make general rule, one photo is not the other... judge case by case...

[PeeWee]

I do not care which agency it is, if it is a FSU based operation then you run the risk of being scammed. Beyond your business dealings with an agency be aware that any business dealings that you might have with a Russian based organization should be suspect. Here is why,

"It is fair to say that corruption, enabled by both human nature and conflicting laws, is now hard-wired into the Russian business environment. Foreign companies report that shakedowns, requests for bribes, harassment and official obstruction have been common practices since the fall of the Soviet Union. In the early 1990s, there was a free-for-all when the government began selling off its vast assets, many of which were purchased at rock-bottom prices -- with the collusion of officials who previously had overseen a particular facility or sector. The culture of "gifts" has persisted: Last year, Russia ranked near the bottom of Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index, with a score of 126 -- tying with countries like Niger, Sierra Leone and Albania. In fact, bribery is so routine that many people do not expect to receive even basic services, such as medical attention, without bringing a token (such as a box of chocolates) for the doctor." © Copyright 2006 Strategic Forecasting, Inc. All rights reserved.

Peewee

 

[Michelangelo]

This seems as good a point as any at which to ask . . . what becomes of the women who end up listed with a "bad agency?"  I'm assuming not ALL of them are in on the scam, simply on the "three can keep a secret if two are dead" principle.

Are they simply locked out of the loop, unavailable to those who know enough to avoid the scam agencies, but also unavailable to those poor chumps paying to answer fake e's?

Weird question, I know.  Not enough coffee yet.

~Boar

Good questions, Boar.

The truth is that lots of good girls sign up with a bad agency, often a hometown one.  How were they to know the agency is bad?

The girl I mentioned upthread is a good girl. We cut the agency out of the loop, and she asked her profile to be deleted.  They said ok, but did not.  It's likely there even today.

Yes, there are gems. But from my perspective, the man has to steer clear and avoid a bad agency and not support them, even though their list does contaim some gems.

[FSUrookie]

Thanks for all the info. They do appear to be another CON-MAN Connect copy-cat. Too bad. It's like they are selling houses with no licence or prior inspection, and then you buy the house and find termites in the basement because no one is checking! This industry is really begging for some type of regulation.
Speaking of our friends from CON-MAN, I see they have a happily-married woman in their top 5. And they just keep reeling in the cash to unsuspecting men, many who never see these boards. I was fortunate to catch these forums after only 2 trips there, and I learned a lot from it all.
Maybe legit industry owners need to step forward and put together some sort of self-regulation, before the government steps in and creates more crazy laws like they have already for American men using dating agencies overseas?

[Michelangelo]

Why it is not correct ? During your holiday, do you close your eyes when you are walking on the beach...

I think her point was that a girl should not use her figure to attract the man.  Girls that do are more likely to attract men who are not serious and want to visit for sex.

In that sense, posting a profile with pictures of the face and clothes on is more likey to attract the kind of man a serious girl wants.

In my case, I dated lots of girls with profiles that included bikini pics.  But I'm marrying the girl with the more decent pics  

[SANDRO43]

I think her point was that a girl should not use her figure to attract the man. Girls that do are more likely to attract men who are not serious and want to visit for sex.

This seems to contradict the almost-general consensus in another thread about FSUW being proud of their looks (which was cited as part of their higher degree of femininity) and understandably relishing the resulting admiration.

The equation :

demure looks = serious intentions

is an acceptable personal opinion, but I would be interested in hearing  the opinion of other FSUW here on this.

[jb]

LOL, Re bikini photos, my wife sent me one taken of her 15 years earlier with the message: "This is what you missed out on for not having married me a long time ago".  I never felt dumber.

[Gator]

Maybe legit industry owners need to step forward and put together some sort of self-regulation,

Actually, If you read the posts by Kevin of Kherson Girls and go through his website, you will notice that he has attempted this to a degree.

before the government steps in and creates more crazy laws like they have already for American men using dating agencies overseas?

As Maxx discovered, our government does not care, and justifiably so.  If you import a RW snake into the country, the government does not care and will not protect you nor even take your side even if most evidence indicates you are the wronged party.

Rookie, I give you the same advice that the ref gives to boxers -"protect yourself at all times".

[Gator]

Sandro wrote, 

...I would be interested in hearing  the opinion of other FSUW here on this.

I pass along a discussion with my ex-fiancee – a decent and honest lady in every aspect.  She said that her agency pressured her to post bikini photos (she has a very sexy body); however, she did not deem it proper at the “introduction” stage.   If a man is so simplistic as to select women based on their sexy body, she did not want his letter.  BTW, if a man’s first email mentioned the word "sex",  she hit "delete" without reading further.


 

[SANDRO43]

she did not deem it proper at the “introduction” stage.

OK Gator, that would seem to indicate an "I don't want to show myself in bikini to strangers" sort of logic. Did your ex say anything about showing her "very sexy body" in bikini on the beach, where strangers also abound ?

Of course, this could be justified by the beach being considered a natural ambience for swimwear, and by sun-tanning requirements, as opposed to a web page.     

P.S.: someone must have heard me, the photo popped up as Random Image at left while I was writing this

[Gator]

Sandro,

Perhaps I am prudish.  One woman sent me risqué photos.   Even though we previously had some scorching sex and we liked each other, I never felt the same towards her; it seemed like a desperate act. 

I demand an attractive woman, yet I do not see this as landing the hottest woman.  I will not marry anyone who is not “best friend” material, and that is a function of intellect, values, goals, character and personality.  I also like elegant and classy women.

Then again, I am at an age that I do not feel constantly impaired by hormones.  If I were 20 years younger, perhaps I would look only at bikini photos in my never ending search for the largest gravity defying breasts regardless of personality.

Bruno did select two extreme examples.   And I would accept his bikini shot as tasteful.  But who would consider the second woman! 


My ex-fiancée was justifiably proud of her body (built like a track star). And she wore bikinis at the beach.  Everyone wears bikinis at the beach but only a minority of RW (over 25) place bikini photos in their Internet profile.  Here’s a  photo of my ex- cleaning the pool.  I live on the golf course and my golfing buddies certainly enjoyed her and regretted when she left.  And she enjoyed joking with them.

[SANDRO43]

Very well, we might then conclude this sub-thread by saying that:

- Bikini photos on MOB sites are not NECESSARILY indicative of a lack of FSUW seriousness, provided the photos are tasteful.

Taste being subjective, the statement still leaves the matter open to personal interpretation . For instance, I consider the photo I attached from our Gallery quite tasteful, and had I seen it in a profile, I would have had no qualms of unseriousness .