Why No Romania

[IAmZon]

I have noticed a lack of Romanian agencies and ladies on any site!?!?!?

It is a large country with a ZILLION beautiful and intelligent ladies why is this?  Begin that this county is in line to become a member of the EU, there seems to be many attractive characteristics here.

Any thoughts?

[jb]

LOL,  I just worked a survey on a ship that docked in Corpus Christi today, crewed by Romainians.  Romanian men are very good looking men, maybe the girls are happy with what they've got at home.

Just a guess.

[SANDRO43]

Just Google "romanian ladies" and you'll get the agencies. By mistake I first Googled "romania ladies" and the 3rd result was:
Escort Service
Escort Services in Romania. ... office@luxor-escorts.com Company private service offered by high-class independent ladies during your stay in Bucharest. ...
A hint on a small problem there .

[tim 360]

A friend of mine married a very nice Romanian girl a couple years ago,  she was here on a biz visa and most of his guy friends were just a tad...jealous...she was such a sweetheart.  Also have met a few others here on biz visas working here.  They plan to work here for 5 years and then go home and with their saved $ to start their own biz near Bucharest.

[IAmZon]

I have met several on student Visas. Pretty, Intelligent, hard working

One has become a VERY good friend of mine. Really, a very good friend.  Not just another 26 year old knock out:)  A nice girl.  she just received her US citizenship.

She explains the Romanian current culture/economic condition and the Romanian ladies outlook towards Americans in a sincere way that would make most of the Agency hype look shy and underspoken.

My friend want to take me to Romania in Summer. The beaches are great, she says.  She seems on a mission to find me a Romanian lady.  I think it is very untapped market.  I will look into it much deeper:)  And let you know.

and wants to introduce me to Romanian ladies

[Son of Clyde]

Maybe Transylvania scares a lot of guys off. Actually, from the pictures I have seen Transylvania is beautiful. The Romanian language would seem easier to learn (romance language) and the ladies look much different than Russian ladies. Dark hair and dark complexion makes some very exotic looking. Had I not looked to FSU I may have gone to Romania.

[jb]

Clyde,

Study the origins of Romania and you'll understand why those things you observed are true.  Romania was to Rome as Australia was to England. A penal colony where they sent the bad people for banishment from Rome.  It's no wonder their language is Romance, it is a derivative of the old Latin, much like Spanish, Italian, and French evolved over time.  I see Romanian guys in the Port of Corpus Christi all the time, Romania is a big time merchant marine supplier of ship's crew members.  They are a very good looking people.   As a race, they look a lot like northern Italians, Austrians, and Germans.

Not a bad choice if you don't want to deal with going behind the "Iron Curtain".

[Mir]

Sandro43

If you mean that most are engaged in prostitution then I would like to point out to you that UN regards Ukraine to be the epicenter of prostitution and a large number of prostitutes in Moscow and Europe are from Ukraine and not Romania.

Rivardco

So why does this Romanian beauty of yours want to fix you with other Romanian girls? Why not herself? Or does she bat for the other side?
And what about Bulgarians, Serbians, Bosnians, Albanians, Armenians etc etc? There are beautiful women everywhere. Heck one of the most beautiful are from the unfortunate Caucus region of Chechnya. In the Eastern fairy tales (1001 nights etc.) the land where fairies live is called Koh Kaf and this is derived from Caucus.

Jb

I don’t know where you got the information about Romania being a penal colony of Rome? Dacia was the last of the Roman provinces and indeed was colonized systemically by Rome but in the same way that they colonized other territories they conquered. The people who were settled there were experienced in agriculture and mining (there were gold mines in Romania).

 

[ConnerVT]

Mining in ancient times was not a career goal that most people actively pursued.  It doesn't matter if you are mining coal or gold -- unless you get to keep the result, it's not a profession to aspire to...

[jb]

Romania History, Romanians trace their history back to before 300 B.C. There were earlier incursions by Rome into the area that predate 300 BC by Roman Legions and Roman penal colonies. .   But Romania did not become an independent, unified country until 1861. During most of the time in-between, various foreign peoples ruled all or part of Romania.

In the years from 300 to 400 B.C., Dacian people farmed, mined gold and iron ore, and traded with neighboring peoples.
Romania was called "Dacia" during this period.

The Romans, under Emperor Trajan, conquered Dacia in A.D. 106, and made it a province of the Roman Empire. Roman soldiers occupied Dacia, and Roman colonists settled there. The Romans intermarried with the Dacians, who adopted Roman customs and the Latin language. Dacia became known as Romania because of the Roman occupation and influence.

[Mir]

I did not say that mining was a highly sought after profession.
However when I recently visited the salt mine near Krakow in Poland I was told that working in these mines was highly coveted till the 17th century. The reason being that the workers were paid in salt which was as expensive as gold in those days!

[jb]

Salary. The Latin word salarium, meaning "salt allowance", is the origin of the word salary. A necessary part of one's diet, Roman soldiers were supposedly paid in salt instead of coin.  However that was in the 1st, and 2nd century, not the 17th, by then everyone wanted gold.

[ConnerVT]

Mir, you missed my point.

Just because they were mining valuable material doesn't mean that the work force was prosperous.  The diamond miners in modern South Africa, or the builders of the great pyramids in ancient Egypt, were not much sought after jobs as it was a small minority that truly benefited.

[jb]

Connor makes a valid point, just because the labor was valuable doesn't mean the laborer got the value. 

Times were very different in those past days.  Not so Politically Correct as we expect today.  Usually the people working in those kinds of jobs were either slaves or prisoners  Look at the Aztecs in Mexico under the Spanish Conquistadors, men and women separated, the ultimate breakdown of society, men worked to death in the mines, women raped and impregnated by Spanish soldiers, kill off the able bodied men, raise the young as Spanish.  All that means is you don't have to fight that war twice when the young ones grow up.  Sound political governing policy by their way of thinking.  It was also the birth of the modern day Mexican race.  This was the standard 15th and 16th century European way of doing business.  Rape, Pillage, and Plunder was the order of the day, was the same for 100's of years before.  Why do you think Romania would be spared the same treatment?

[SANDRO43]

Roman soldiers occupied Dacia, and Roman colonists settled there.

This was a clever ethnic/financial ploy, started by the Romans in Northern Italy after their early Gallic Wars (ca. 225 BC).

At the end of their 20 years or so of service, Roman legionnaires were offered plots of land in newly-conquered areas in lieu of their remaining accrued salarium, thereby both lightening the pressure on Rome's Treasury and settling those areas with loyal Roman, or, later, loyal-to-Rome ex-servicemen.

After Trajan's final defeat of the Dacians in 106 AD, most of their land was given over to Latin-speaking former soldiers from all over the Empire (except from Rome, probably ).

[jb]

Interesting that Rome taught all of Europe how to conquer and manage lands outside their territories for centuries to come.  Very clever, i think.  Keep the bullies out of town and let them rampage as they will, but not at home.  I'm sure the local inhabitants of Gaul, Germania, and even Romania appreciated that.

From reading much history, I see these practices continued for many years throughout Europe, exacerbated only by the influences of the Moors during the 2 or 3 centuries they occupied Spain, southern France, and Italy.  A more bloodthirsty group you could not wish for.

No wonder the Americas were nothing more than a ripe plum ready for the picking.

[SANDRO43]

From reading much history, I see these practices continued for many years throughout Europe, exacerbated only by the influences of the Moors during the 2 or 3 centuries they occupied Spain, southern France, and Italy. A more bloodthirsty group you could not wish for.

Funny JB, you must have read history books different from mine.
After their initial conquest, which probably entailed bloodshed as any conquest ever did or does, Arab rule in Spain and Sicily is credited with religious tolerance (the Jews were kicked out of Spain after the 1492 Reconquista by Isabella and Ferdinand), promoting science and art, and preserving many of the Greek classics that were being used as toilet paper (vellum is very soft ) by the barbarians rampaging through the rest of Europe.

[jb]

Yeah, I was educated by the Jesuits, they tend to tell it like it really was.

[jb]

ya know, the people the Spanish conquered here in America had already understood the significant of "zero", which was still a mystery to much of Europe at the time.  So we weren't as backward as you think, in fact, our Mayan calenders were much more correct and accurate than what the best of Europe had to offer at the time.  The Mayans already knew the earth wasn't flat, but that didn't stop the Catholic Church from burning a few faithful at the stake over the issue.

You know I'm at least 25% native American, don't you?  I"m kind of proud of the heritage.

[SANDRO43]

Yeah, I was educated by the Jesuits, they tend to tell it like it really was.

Well, I have some doubts as to the historical objectivity of Jesus's Soldiers as regards Mohammedans :

The Society was not founded with the avowed intention of opposing Protestantism. Neither the papal letters of approbation nor the Constitutions of the order mention this as the object of the new foundation. When Ignatius began to devote himself to the service of the Church, he had probably not even heard of the names of the Protestant Reformers. His early plan was rather the conversion of Mohammedans, an idea which, a few decades after the final triumph of the Christians over the Moors in Spain, must have strongly appealed to the chivalrous Spaniard. The name "Societas Jesu" had been born by a military order approved and recommended by Pius II in 1450, the purpose of which was to fight against the Turks and aid in spreading the Christian faith.

(from CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: The Jesuits (The Society of Jesus)
www.newadvent.org/cathen/14081a.htm)

ya know, the people the Spanish conquered here in America had already understood the significant of "zero", which was still a mystery to much of Europe at the time.  So we weren't as backward as you think, in fact, our Mayan calenders were much more correct and accurate than what the best of Europe had to offer at the time.

I know, and the Mayan astronomical tables for Venus are still a wonder today.

The Mayans already knew the earth wasn't flat, but that didn't stop the Catholic Church from burning a few faithful at the stake over the issue.

Since Dominicans and Jesuits were kindling the flames, that sorts of speaks for itself about "objectivity", doesn'it ?

You know I'm at least 25% native American, don't you? 

Yes, but isn't your connection with Mayans a bit tenuous ?

[Mir]

Conner

The thing is that I don’t know what point were you making?
I never said that people in Dacia were prosperous or that mining was a great career etc.
All I said was in reply to Jb that it was not a Roman penal colony but was colonized like any other land that the Romans conqured.
As for the question if the job was sought after,well I have no idea about how people felt about working in the mines in Dacia. I only quoted the words of our tour guide who took us around the salt mine near Krakow and said that jobs there were sought after.

[Kuna]

Romania was to Rome as Australia was to England. A penal colony where they sent the bad people for banishment from Rome. 

Romania was Rome's sporting nemesis???


Sorry, I can't help it!  For our Pommy friends in here...  bring on the Ashes!  First test starts on Friday and Warnie's Flipper is back!!!

(OK OK I know.. Off topic... but it's cricket, you've gotta give me a little latitude when it comes to cricket!)

:-(

Kuna

[SANDRO43]

Romania was to Rome as Australia was to England. A penal colony where they sent the bad people for banishment from Rome.

The funny thing is that actually it was America's fault (another reason to blame the USA ).

[jb]

Romania was to Rome as Australia was to England. A penal colony where they sent the bad people for banishment from Rome.

The funny thing is that actually it was America's fault (another reason to blame the USA Grin).

That's true, in AD 106 America was already a superpower and throwing it's weight around in Rome. 

Hey, Kuna...

Once when I was in London I was taken to see a Cricket Match.  I remember it well because it turned out to be one of the most restful naps I'd ever had.  Maybe they do it better in AU.

[SANDRO43]

JB, I was referring to Australia, not Dacia .

In 1788, the eleven ships of the First Fleet landed their 'cargo' of around 780 British convicts at Botany Bay in New South Wales. Two more convict fleets arrived in 1790 and 1791, and the first free settlers arrived in 1793.

.. as a result of the fact that your Revolution made the former practice of dumping jailbirds into American colonies no longer practicable.

So YOU are responsible for Australia, too .