I wonder...

[Photo Guy]

Talking with two RW !!! How exotic!  The internet is cool.
Things in common?
Hmmm. I told her my nails were rather short.  She laughed.
We talked about 'Moscow Doesn't Believe In Tears'. We both
like Manet's paintings and want to visit Paris someday.
She shared her photos of her vacation in the mountains,
the Caucasus mountains - Dombai. We both love the arts,
museums, theater, movies, and we'll play racquetball.  

How much should we have in common?  Doug

[Elen]

So she does have money for Dombai, eh? ( but have not money for train to Kiev)

Ps Certainly to have a wish to visit Paris is a fine thing to have in common with somebody (especially if he pays for all)

 

[Photo Guy]

Yeah, yeah. I know. Probably some foreign guy paid her way.  Doug

[Elen]

Ah Dombai:D I was there too

 

Лыжи у печки стоят, гаснет закат за горой.
Am              Dm     E7               Am
Месяц кончается март, скоро нам ехать домой.
   A7                 Dm  G7                C     E7
Здраствуйте, хмурые дни, горное солнце, прощай.
Am               Dm    E7                 Am
Мы навсегда сохраним в сердце своем этот край.

Нас провожает с тобой гордый красавец Эрцог,
Нас ожидает с тобой марево дальних дорог.
Вот и окончился круг, помни, надейся, скучай.
Снежные флаги разлук вывесил старый Домбай.

[Bruno]

I think that i have find what miss to these forum... a little chat room for member... this can allow fast discussion about a topic and after write the conclusion in only one post...

[Admin]

I think that i have find what miss to these forum... a little chat room for member... this can allowfast discussion about a topic and after writethe conclusion in only one post...

It was available in the previous board software, but was almost never used. I think the coordination of people joining the chat at the same time proved to be a problem.

Anyway, there *is* some chat software available for this board also. I will check into it if there appears to be sufficient interest.

- Dan

[Bruno]

It was available in the previous board software, but was almost never used. I think the coordination of people joining the chat at the same time proved to be a problem.

Anyway, there *is* some chat software available for this board also. I will check into it if there appears to be sufficient interest.

Dan, it was only a idea... when i have see these topic with a discussion between Doug-Elen-Arrow... with 22 post in around two hours... it was like a chat session...

This can only help to spare the topic itself from too much message... of if we wish to speak about something "out of topic" ... of course, the problem of time zone between member don't help but same if not used a lot, it can help...

[Elen]

I'm pass. I don't like chat-rooms:?

[Elen]

BTW ... that discussion between Doug-Elen-Arrow... with 22 post in around two hours...  was not OFF TOPIC. It was an attempt to understand what Photo Guy found such special in his Larisa and it's right in "topic" otherwise to replicas of "somebody" about chat

[Fiorella]

[user=134]Photo Guy[/user] wrote:

Ask yourself - would she be same excited if you would be RUSSIAN/UKRAINIAN man?

Fiorella,
Why are you with a foreign man? Why did you choose him? Doug

It was he who chosed me. But he is absolutelly russian by mentality with some western details.

[Photo Guy]

Ask yourself - would she be same excited if you would be RUSSIAN/UKRAINIAN man?

Fiorella,
Why are you with a foreign man? Why did you choose him? Doug
[/quote]It was he who chosed me. But he is absolutelly russian by mentality with some western details. [/quote]
I wish you or others would describe that 'Russian' mentality.
Many of us want to know what that is. Those who have married
a Russian, probably know already. I do not know. It is probably
difficult to describe. What Russian traits would a woman like
me to have?   Doug

[Photo Guy]

Things are not so bad. How are you doing? What is life without humor? I won't live in a dark place.
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D Doug

I am Ok, thanks.

But I think, if you were Ok and sure in your RW you wouldn't discuss your relationship with her on this forum. LOL
[/quote]
Wow, you look so closely to find flaws. Yes, I am not that 'sure'.
I have never met her. I have never been to Ukraine. The last time
I left the USA was in 1971. I don't speak Russian.  How sure
should I be? Not being sure is acceptable to me at this point.  Doug

[Fiorella]

Too difficult to explane.

[TheArrow]

[user=134]Photo Guy[/user] wrote:

I wish you or others would describe that 'Russian' mentality.
Many of us want to know what that is. Those who have married
a Russian, probably know already. I do not know. It is probably
difficult to describe. What Russian traits would a woman like
me to have? Doug

Huh. What a guy, lol!

Listen, when I started to talk to people from abroad via the Net NONE told me about their mentality or anything else.

Wanna make your things easy? You are the man - you must not be afraid of difficulties.

As we say here in Russia (figuratively, of course) - wanna ride the bicycle, eat the fish and do not choke with a fishbone, lol. This is YOUR relationship and YOU must think about Russian mentality and explore it but not we.

Read our posts on the forum again - and you will understand all.

[Elen]

Read our posts on the forum again - and you will understand all

Yeah! Re-read and run away from Russia(and Ukraine even more so)

 

[Elen]

Yes, I am not that 'sure'. I have never met her. I have never been to Ukraine. The last time I left the USA was in 1971. I don't speak Russian. How sure should I be? Not being sure is acceptable to me at this point.

But she already told you how much she wished to became american and you discussed a trip to Paris:D

[Photo Guy]

We didn't discuss Paris that much. We talked about Manet and
she asked me if I would like to go to Paris and I said 'Yes. Someday
we must go there.'  She wants to 'think like an American'. I interpret
that as meaning 'she wants to adapt to living in the US.' She would
probably prefer a Ukrainian man in Mariupol, but she can't find one.
Maybe someone told her that AM are nice. Some of us are.
Tell me how to be more like a Russian. Should I be more critical?
Does a Russian man caress her in a different way?  Doug

[Elen]

Well Photo guy I think you should calm down. Your girl is from province town, she will be happy to move to America so she will jump over her head for you will feel comfort, happy, lovely and so far with her. And according to her letters she can do it:D (such many compliments per one inch;))

No doubts you will have a nice time with her. And it will be decision of YOURS to continue that relation or not (coz I'm sure for 99% she will be for. 1% I leave for the chance she will be just sick about you. That happens sometimes as well:D)

[Elen]

We talked about Manet and she asked me if I would like to go to Paris and I said 'Yes. Someday we must go there

Boy:D You amaze me Girl smoothly drived you to idea you should take her to Paris and you didn't even mention her manoeuvre

 

[Elen]

She would probably prefer a Ukrainian man in Mariupol

yeah if only Mariupol would be somewhere in California

 

[TheArrow]

[user=134]Photo Guy[/user] wrote:

She wants to 'think like an American'. I interpret
that as meaning 'she wants to adapt to living in the US.' She would
probably prefer a Ukrainian man in Mariupol, but she can't find one.

Oh, My God. As we say here - she started to cook the chicken before she caught it. LOL.

You haven't seen each other in real yet. But she wants to think like American. Listen, Guy, think well before this trip.

She has no money to buy tickets but she has already been to Dombai and some other facts.......

Think good, baby.

[Admin]

Well Photo guy I think you should calm down. Your girl from province town, she will be happy to move to America so she will jusmp over her heard for you will feel comfort, happy, lovely and so far with her. Ans according to her letters she can do it:D(such many compliments per one inch)

No doubts you will have a nice time with her. And it will be decisionof YOURS to continue that relation or not (coz I'm sure for 99% she will be for. 1% I leave for the chance she will be just sick about you. That happen sometimes as well:D)

Elen,

I think you would be surprised to learn the percentage of girls that, when it finally comes down to leaving Ukraine, choose to remain near their family and friends. I don't have statistics, but I know it happens often enough that I've spoken to both girls and guys who have had that experience. I think this happens a great deal and would not be surprised to learn that 10% of all girls who have the opportunity to leave their home country, ultimately refuse to do so.

From another perspective (and this is directed to EVERYONE, not only Elen) - it seems to me that everyone should recognize that RISKS are a big part of this endeavor. There are risks of failure involved in ANY relationship. With a relationship that involves international travel, major cultural differences, language barriers and throw in the possibility of guys on sex tours and girls looking only for money, and you have increased the risks of failure dramatically.

So what?!?

Some people are more risk averse - and others are more risk-seeking. Some will tell you that they are not really living unless they are experiencing the excitement and euphoria that comes with seeking, and overcoming, risks of various sorts.

In fact, there are even programs and consultants that can teach you all about the identification, quantification, and even statistical significance of managing risks.

My point is - ANY relationship is risky. ANY relationship depends heavily on the instincts and intuition of one person relating to another.

What Doug, and others, are doing right now is trying to best determine the risks themselves and the consequences of those risks coming true. They are also evaluating options to mitigate those risks so that, eventually, they manage to overcome and conquer the risks.

If anyone wants a great book about the topic, there is a book written by Peter Bernstein entitled "Against the Gods: The Remarkable Story of Risk"

FWIW

- Dan

[Admin]

[user=134]Photo Guy[/user] wrote:

We didn't discuss Paris that much. We talked about Manet and
she asked me if I would like to go to Paris and I said 'Yes. Someday
we must go there.'  She wants to 'think like an American'. I interpret
that as meaning 'she wants to adapt to living in the US.' She would
probably prefer a Ukrainian man in Mariupol, but she can't find one.
Maybe someone told her that AM are nice. Some of us are.
Tell me how to be more like a Russian. Should I be more critical?
Does a Russian man caress her in a different way?  Doug

Doug,

Looks like you are the first one who has managed to pique the interest of all 3 of our Russian sirens simultaneously.

Congratulations!

- Dan

[Elen]

From another perspective (and this is directed to EVERYONE, not only Elen) - it seems to me that everyone should recognize that RISKS are a big part of this endeavor

 

HA! not only Elen!:?  Elen is ceirtainly the one who does recornize thar RISKs. Did my posts convince you in otherwise?

[Elen]

I think you would be surprised to learn the percentage of girls that, when it finally comes down to leaving Ukraine, choose to remain near their family and friends

Look Dan If I  have unnecessary 100$ I'd bet with you THAT girl will leave Mariuple without one blink of eye:D