Large age difference

[Bruno]

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Seems too that scammers are more attracted by US citizens than by EU ones... imo...
Again... wondering why...?
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Maybe for some simple reasons... first, around 50% of people on the Net are American... second, EU use a lot of language... US only english, the international language... at last, the EU are not so rich that American ( it was see russian in hollywood film )... it is only some of parameter... not all

[Elen]

Seems too that scammers are more attracted by US citizens than by EU ones... imo...   Again... wondering why...?

Americans are more naive And they used to think thier mission on the Earth was to save all poor things:D. Aslo many of them used to think money could do anything. So it's easy to fool them with sob stories

And Europians are just GREEDY

IMO (before you start to cry out it's all not true)

[Coulter]

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Seems too that scammers are more attracted by US citizens than by EU ones... imo...
Again... wondering why...?
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Maybe for some simple reasons... first, around 50% of people on the Net are American... second, EU use a lot of language... US only english, the international language... at last, the EU are not so rich that American ( it was see russian in hollywood film )... it is only some of parameter... not all

Oh yes, there are objective reasons like being far away. Tickets are ore expensive. And it is likely that an US man will not be able to drop in Moscow for the week-end.

But still...

[Coulter]

Seems too that scammers are more attracted by US citizens than by EU ones... imo...   Again... wondering why...?

Americans are more naive And they used to think thier mission on the Earth was to save all poor things:D. Aslo many of them used to think money could do anything. So it's easy to fool them with sob stories

And Europians are just GREEDY

IMO (before you start to cry out it's all not true)
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You are taking the words out of my mouth! I was about to write that they are more gullible, but censured myself... Well, if you are shooting first, I will second you!

I think that you meant "stingy" for Europeans... Personal experiences? Greedy would describe more exactly the US system based on profit and greed. It is striking how much they discuss money issues.

[Elen]

Yes "stingy" but in such business as dating women "stingly" always looks like greedy:P 

[Kvinna]

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Seems too that scammers are more attracted by US citizens than by EU ones... imo...
Again... wondering why...?
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Maybe for some simple reasons... first, around 50% of people on the Net are American... second, EU use a lot of language... US only english, the international language... at last, the EU are not so rich that American ( it was see russian in hollywood film )... it is only some of parameter... not all

Oh yes, there are objective reasons like being far away. Tickets are ore expensive. And it is likely that an US man will not be able to drop in Moscow for the week-end.

But still...[/quote]
 

hm.. I would say the demand for americans here become a thing of the past... the quality level of american dater has decreased very much... now on the market americans in general are known as arrogant game players... also as Internet now is accessible to the majority of the Russian women they can to get the information from such sites as RWA and forum of the russian fiancee... And what we can read there? About new American tradition to send the wife home in year of marriage, concealment of the incomes, and abusive behaviour. All this frightens off the serious russian dater. Besides this we have the demand for the much younger women ... Most of young girl is able to love the shabby old men only for their wallets, it is pretty natural... So your demand gives rise to the quite adequate offer

and please don't tell me about your happy russian wives... let's them tell about their life selves and without your supervision and censorship

[Fiorella]

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Seems too that scammers are more attracted by US citizens than by EU ones... imo...
Again... wondering why...?
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Maybe for some simple reasons... first, around 50% of people on the Net are American... second, EU use a lot of language... US only english, the international language... at last, the EU are not so rich that American ( it was see russian in hollywood film )... it is only some of parameter... not all

Oh yes, there are objective reasons like being far away. Tickets are ore expensive. And it is likely that an US man will not be able to drop in Moscow for the week-end.

But still...

 [/quote]Scammers just see americans much stupid and ready to pay for illusions.

[BC]

The 'grapevine' has it that many RW prefer EU destinations, maybe because it is closer and immigration so much easier/quicker.

[Coulter]

Yep, less than 4 hours from Moscow.
Also they can come to see were they will be living
before any comitment or engagement. Six months every year. One student could come 6 days after receiving her passport. Go figure. US citizens can only be dreaming.

[Bruno]

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One student could come 6 days after receiving her passport. Go figure. US citizens can only be dreaming.
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And several young woman below 26 year old buy Eurolines ticket in Moscow( near University )... they can travel everywhere in Europa during two month for only 250 euro...

Only problem, Euroline is a bus compagny... i have try it and 3 day in bus from Brussels too Moscow is very long... it is not for me... but i have see that young russian are not afraid of this... you need see them with their camping bag...

[Erwin]

hm.. I would say the demand for americans here become a thing of the past... the quality level of american dater has decreased very much... now on the market americans in general are known as arrogant game players... also as Internet now is accessible to the majority of the Russian women they can to get the information from such sites as RWA and forum of the russian fiancee... And what we can read there? About new American tradition to send the wife home in year of marriage, concealment of the incomes, and abusive behaviour. All this frightens off the serious russian dater. Besides this we have the demand for the much younger women ... Most of young girl is able to love the shabby old men only for their wallets, it is pretty natural... So your demand gives rise to the quite adequate offer

and please don't tell me about your happy russian wives... let's them tell about their life selves and without your supervision and censorship

Kvinna,

You have made an interesting observation, but nonetheless it appears to be a hasty generalization.

Why do you think "Americans are known as arrogant game players"?

What facts do you have that will support your assertion that there is a, "new American tradition to send the wife home in year of marriage, concealment of the incomes, and abusive behaviour"?

What do you mean when you said, "we have the demand for the much younger women"?

You also said not to tell you, "about your[American] happy russian wives... let's them tell about their life selves and without your supervision and censorship."

The tone in your statement here appears to be very adversarial.  Implicit in your statement is your assumption that all American men who marry Russian women are controlling, abusive and censoring their communications with the outside worlds.  Why do you think so? Do you have any evidence to support your statement?

Regards,

Erwin

[TigerPaws]

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 LoL Elen, you would not more leave this forum than leap to the moon and if you did I for one would NOT miss you, So if you feel insulted PLEASE feel free to leave anytime.

 

 

 

[TigerPaws]

 What Elen and Kvnna do not want to acknowledge is that there are many sucessful AM/RW mariages with an age difference of 15 to 20 years than they care to admit to. For the most part men in the late 30's and early 40's are generally (hopefully) mature enough to understand the wants, needs and desires of their RW. Most of the men in this age group have already had at least one failed marrage and are looking for something different in women from the FSU. Normally (again hopefully) these men will have a bit more disposable income than men in their mid 20's and have a more stable job/income structure. Additionally this group of men should have a better idea of what they want in a woman who will be their best friend, lover and maybe mother to their child. 

 As I have said before my lady and I have a 19 year age difference and like any relationship we have had our share of ups and downs. Through it all we wanted to make our relationship work, with good communication, mutual respect and a healthy amount of love and understanding our relationship has become so much stronger over these past 5 years.

 Could I have found a similar lady closer to my own age? Most likely but why should I compromise when I can have it all. A young, beautiful, sexy, intelligent lady who love me with all of her heart. What else can a man ask for?

 As fr as I am concerned our age difference is one of the factors at makes our relationship work.

  

[Timmy K.]

Timmy K here-- I am over being nervous, HE HE HA HA, at least better than I was last week.....  Age mmmm, OK I am getting ready to meet some one that is compatible in many areas, probably everything, we are even two short people. Me 5' 4" she 4' 11", We are both in construction, we don't care for the night clubs ect., night life, we don't drink, we both love the outdoors, she is happy to sleep in my tent on a stormy night, canoe down the river, go fishing, loves home life { home improvement plans or we might be building our own new house ourselves we both have the skills} gardening, visiting with friends, cinema, eating out ocassionaly, we both want at least one child, do some travelling ,I've never been married she likes this, I have no children she likes this too, we are both just simple type of people and so much more to mention. I have watched and listened to all of you for a while now and I appreciate every thing that every one has written even though some more than others ha ha , and I have learned alot, I hope I can put it all to good use.  Age difference for Victoria and I. I just turned 49 she will be 27 in June, I guess I have 25 days to find out starting April 8 in Kiev, she is comming from Karkov on the 7th,a day early to get the apartment ready, she is meeting me at the airport and will have that new sweater she knitted for me and says dinner will be served when I get to the apartment and a hot bath, this is what she said. I bought 3 dictionaries today and I have downloaded some English lessons, she wants me to teach her as much English as possible while I am there. I do not know how this will go because she also wants me to come to Karkov to meet her mother and she wants to do a few other things like seeing the sights and a visit to see her animals and maybe a trip to Crimea.

[Elen]

What Elen and Kvnna do not want to acknowledge is that there are many sucessful AM/RW mariages with an age difference of 15 to 20 years than they care to admit to[/color][/font][/size]

There are SOME successful (from HUSBANDs' viewpoint) marriages with large difference in ages

BTW BIG BLUE TEXT is not and argument and would not help us to understand your thoughts better

What else can a man ask for?

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May be some brains for understanding a fragility  of his "position"  n such marriage:P??

 I for one would NOT miss you

Yes , for one

My greeting for your young wife. She is really a saint woman to bear you next to her for such long period



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[Elen]

Btw I woud not mind to see here at this board an word from those still invisible Russian young wives, written on RUSSIAN:D

Why does nobody of them still said a word in support of their old men?

[KenC]

Btw I woud not mind to see here at this board an word from those still invisible Russian young wives, written on RUSSIAN:D

Why does nobody of them still said a word in support of their old men?

Elen,

Your input is most welcomed here on this forum, but the truth is that this forum is basicly here to help men (American and otherwise) to find their way through a process of seeking a Russian woman for marriage.  I enjoy helping where I can as I can only hope that some men will find the joy and happiness I found in my young Russian wife. 

My wife does not feel the need to participate in this or other forums.  She has found her happiness and does not feel the need to counsel others.  She has read this and other forums and laughs at the redundency of it all.  She, like I, do not feel the necessity to prove our happiness to you or anyone else.  We both know what we found in each other and cherish it dearly.  There is no amount of age difference or cultural difference that can tarnish it either.  Again, I can only wish that you and others can find a fraction of what we have found.  Best of luck to you and everyone else.

KenC

[Bruno]

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Btw I woud not mind to see here at this board an word from those still invisible Russian young wives...
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If i have good read, Fiorella is married with a foreign man... and i am sure that she say what she think without any kind of censorship from his husband...

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What Elen and Kvnna do not want to acknowledge is that there are many sucessful AM/RW mariages with an age difference of 15 to 20 years than they care to admit to.
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Many don't mean a great %... it is need to be realistic, the great majority of couple have not a big age difference, they are not the rule but the exception... and they know more problem that married couple with a more low difference of age... not always because of hemself, but because of the regard of other...

For myself, i use a +- 5 year around my own age... but if i have know a very young or more old woman who are compatible with my thinking, why not... my real limit is 18 yo because of law and 45 yo because i wish children... but seriously, what have too make age with feeling, love...

[Kvinna]

Regards

Kvinna

[Coulter]

BTW BIG BLUE TEXT is not and argument and would not help us to understand your thoughts better

It is only evidence that he is feeling unsecure.

[jb]

I dunno about all this....

My wife is the one who seems to know every RW within a 2,000 mile radius through her participation in all the RW forums.  There are a few who are unhappy, mostly because of desperate poor choices of their own doing.  There are also some who fall into the "trade up girl" and the "green card girl" catagories.  But from what I see and hear from her, most are pretty happy with their new husbands and families.

Kvinna seems to be yelling "Fire~!" in the theater after having smelled a little smoke from the popcorn machine in the lobby.  If things were as bad as she presents, there wouldn't be a single AM/RW marriage at all, these women have an intelligence network to rival the CIA.

That's just my observation.

[Elen]

My wife is the one who seems to know every RW within a 2,000 mile radius through her participation in all the RW forums.

What's forums ?? I want to participate into them too and take a look what your wife does write there on Russian language while you stays in "just your observation":P:P

[Coulter]

My wife is the one who seems to know every RW within a 2,000 mile radius through her participation in all the RW forums.

What's forums ?? I want to participate into them too and take a look what your wife does write there on Russian language while you stays in "just your observation":P:P
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Could be fun, indeed!

[jb]

www.russianwomenabroad.com

This is a good place to start.

[Elen]

Well I saw that site. There are some succsessful stories there as well as unhappy ends and a big section with phone numbers where call to in abuse situation

(Although I didn't find (yet) a topic about large difference in ages there)