BEWARE! Agencyscams is a scam site

[Jack]

Honest Jim and Agencyscams are a scam operation.

He has two standards, one standard for those agencies who he  receives some sort of income from, or has in the past, and a second set of standards for those who are not part of his compensation program.

As well I think I can demonstrate and prove an out right scam on his part for me to be able to officially list Honest Jim and Agencyscam as a scam operation.




What Honest Jim says about why he Blacklist's RWD.........


"What pushed me over the edge was the fact that this site (RWD) now advertises anastasiaweb.com. GUH!?!?!?!?!?          Do a little searching and you will discover the craziness of a site that is advertising them.       So, if this site thinks it is OK to advertise anastasiweb.com, then why would you listen to any more of there thinking and reasoning?"


Now you don't think Jim has two set's of standards do you? 

Honest Jim Blacklist European Connections, Yep, good ole European Connections and all it's affiliates (like Anastasia) are Blacklisted by Honest Jim.

Honest Jim makes the following comments "They (E.C) bought out rwguide.com, but are trying to keep it a secret. So, they have a tool for free advertising"

If Honest Jim Blacklist's Anastasia and Blacklist RWD because they allow an agency to advertise that he Blacklist's, why does Honest Jim not Blacklist RWG who he admits that European Connection is advertising on and he Blacklist's European Connections?

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Oh, and here is another of Honest Jim's double standards. It seems if you advertise on his site, or if he receives revenue from the number of clicks generated by his site or a percentage of revenue from services, then those agencies are exempt from being bad agencies.

Here is what Honest Him says about agency owners who have their own anti-scam sites,.............

And an agency owner who has his/her own anti-scam site cannot complain or even assume he/she knows how an independent anti-scam site investigates and makes decisions.  So, yet another anti-scam site that is serving its own interest. Not the worst crime around, but if there are problems with its sites, how can you trust them?

YES Honest Jim, how can you trust such a site!!!!  Oopppps, Honest Jim, maybe you need to check who your number 1 rated agency is, Elena's Models.  They wouldn't have an anti-scam site now would they????  Uhh-ohhhh Honest Jim, you better get this off your site before Elena Petrova see's you are questioning the integrity of her site.

I think after Honest Jim realizes he has written this and his number one recommended agency, Elena's Models, also has an anti-scam site he is probably going to quickly delete this. So if you want to see it for yourself look under the Blacklisted agency Bride of My Dreams while it is still up.

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Army of Brides?  They make Honest Jim's Blacklist. Here is one of Honest Jim's comments.......

"He has started his own anti-scam site. Wow, more reason to blacklist him."

Oh my Honest Jim, but yet it's ok for your number one recommended agency, Elena's Model's, so have an anti-scam site.  It seems if agencies pay you, then you can look the other way as to many of your statements. But if they don't pay you then the same act as your recommended agencies is a scam.


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1st Russian Bride is Blacklisted. 

Next Honest Jim words of wisdom.

From Honest Jim "He also has pornographic sites, so why even bother using any of his services?"

Oh Jimbo?   What about your second most recommended site, A Foreign Affair.  If one site is involved with pornography, and why should anyone bother to use such a site, why would your second most recommended agency be recommended?  Ahhh, I forgot, because you receive income from this site.  Never mind, answered my own question.


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Some of my other favorite posts by Honest Jim on his site........



I have conclusive proof (many times over) that this corporation is conducting fraudulent business. I will not post this info, I need it as a surprise for the future.

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It's too much of a coincidence that all these companies have so many problems circling them. Why bother with companies in hot water? Try my Gold List. You'll have a huge selection of all kinds of women. And feel free to ask my personal opinion, it's becoming respected.



("And feel free to ask my personal opinion, it's becoming respected."   This is SO funny I can't stop laughing. Haaaa haa)
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From Honest Jim,

"Since nobody is going to regulate all the agencies out there, I decided to make myself the appointed standard-maker. I work independently of any agency and I am completely unbiased."   


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1st Attractive Agency     (Blacklistlisted)

From Honest Jim

"This agency has also started a blacklist? Yes. datingscam.com is run by anastasiaweb. They have a black and white list of agencies. (Gee, I wonder where they got that idea.) And guess what, all their competition is on the blacklist and all their partners are on the white list."


Honest Jim, are your above statements not like the pot calling the kettle black?  It seems your doing much the same.

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From Honest Jim,


"I also did not like all the odd sites that stop-scammers.com recommended. Imagine my surprise when I found out that all (and only) the sites that they recommend are THEIR own sites. So, how can you trust them? "



Honest Jim, again, appears the pot is calling the kettle black. 


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From Honest Jim

"I DO NOT work for any agency. My site is UNbias. 100%"

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From Honest Jim

"He has copied text from more than one of his competitors' sites. Not the worst thing in the world....... So, the posters on this other site are not happy that there words have been stolen from one site and posted on another.  .....I also have reports that he has copied profiles, which is a HUGE mistake."



whoaaaaa Honest Jim, YOU stole photos, the wording, profiles, from both FirstDream and Elena's Models in 1999 and 2000.   So why would that not be a HUGE mistake on your part?  You call other's scam for doing the same thing you have done in the past.


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From Honest Jim,


"I don't even care what the answer is. Stolen profiles is the worst scam. And there is no reversing the damage that is done when an agency does it."



daaaa, I agree Jim. We both agree here, only thing is you feel you are exempt from stealing profiles and photos from other agencies.


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From Honest Jim, expressing his opinion to me about "copying profiles" from other sites,

"I do NOT copy profiles from other sites. I did this ONCE when I first started my site. And I openly told you that I did it. I took some profiles from your pathetic list and some from womenrussia.com. I realize now that it was not good to do it, but I didn’t want to start an anti-scam site without any profiles. I was the 3rd anti-scam site on the net and there were not too many scammers way back then. I have NEVER done it since. And I am suspicious of all the new anti-scam sites that obviously do it."



As I see it it's ok for Honest Jim to steal photos, profiles, but no other anti-scam sites or agencies should do this. Only him.


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From Honest Jim

"So, I emailed Edwin (Suddarth) and his competitor and told them to stop bad mouthing each other and remove the slanderous remarks before an all out war ruined both of their reputations and made the whole industry look bad. Edwin replied that nobody is the police and that he had more experience in this business than me and the other agency owner together. I said that although I hate the idea that I am the police, I am a watchdog"



Oh Noooooo, YOU Honest Jim are the police of our industry!!   YOU are the watch dog!    Oh boy, our industry is in big trouble now.

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From Honest Jim



"Oh, this is interesting. UAProfiler appeared on the anti-scam scene very quietly and suddenly. They instantly had hundreds of women on their site ...... I would not trust them. I asked them some questions and they refused to tell me anything at all. (A fake cop is scared of a real cop.) "


Honest Jim, one day YOU also appeared on the scene. One day their were only two agencies who had anti-scam links, Elena's Models and Firstdream.  You must have liked our concept because one day you did not exist and then the next day here you are, proclaiming to be the world's experts on scams and you have every photo of every scammer from the Firstdream's Hall of Shame scammers link and you have many of the photos of Elena's Models scam link.   It's bad when someone else does what you did, but not bad for you to do the same?

And THEY refused to answer YOUR questions?

Here Honest Jim, read what YOU wrote me when I asked you to please tell me how you decided a woman was a scammer that you placed on your site after I saw you had good and sincere women posted.  Here is your reply to me.......

" Jack, I am sorry, but I cannot explain how my investigations work. I don't know why you started attacking me. What have I done to you. I have always been fair to you. When someone asks me if your agency is reputable, I always say, and I quote, "First Dream is fine to use." (I am sure you have read an email like this in the past) You know I dislike you, but I am always fair.   Please stop emailing me.  I can never understand your way of thinking and things are always better when we don't talk. And I have no responsibility to answer to you.    Don't email me again."

So Honest Jim, YOU Blacklist someone for NOT answering your questions and yet when I ask you simple questions as to how, why, you Blacklisted certain ladies, what reports did you have, what proof, and you refuse to answer me as this other site refused to answer you. I think you said it best, "A fake cop is scared of a real cop".

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From Honest Jim,

"What landed them on the Black List is that they completely ignored my email in regards to these scammers.
And when they ignored my 2nd email about all the known scammers on their site, that was all I needed to place them on the Black List."



Again, YOU can ignore request's about scammers on your site but if someone ignores your request, you Blacklist them.


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From Honest Jim,

"BUT...when a Russian girl contacts me, begging for help. Saying that she has asked the agency time and time again to remove her profile and they haven't done it, this is where I draw the line."



I know the feeling Jim.  I have had three wonderful, sincere women also begging me for help in asking what they did to get Blacklisted on your site. And you know what I have to tell these ladies?   "I don't know, he won't tell me, he won't return my e-mails".


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I told Honest Jim a few years ago he had a scam agency on his site that he was recommending (on his recommended list). After recommending this scam agency for two years and finally getting enough scam reports on this agency Honest Jim wrote me

"yes, one of their owners was bad BUT she has now been replaced"



And today, this SAME scam agency is still scamming men and still recommended by Honest Jim (Love Agency/2 Oceans of Love)  If you pay, you get recommended.
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From Honest Jim


"I never add or remove any agency because of ONE person."

and

"My personal feelings have no place here, and my decisions are based on fact alone."




Jim you never add any agency because of one person.  You never let your personal feelings have an effect on who you Blacklist, your decisions are based on FACT alone you say.

Jim on your Blacklist you have two agencies listed I would like to ask you about. The first one is an agency called First Dreem. And the second agency you have listed as a scam agency I have questions about is called Furst Dream.

When I saw these two agencies listed the first thing I did was try to find them. I cannot. They do not exist. But yet you would have to have at least two people who have reported to you that this agency First Dreem was a scam agency, that this agency was involved in scam activities.  You would have to have another two persons (unless they were the same two) who reported to you that this agency Furst Dream was a scam agency.

Jim these two agencies do not exist and never did exist.  You placed both these agencies on your Blacklist hoping you would be able to sway some people who were stupid enough to believe in you that this First Dreem and Furst Dream agency were scam agencies and you were, in your disgusting, deceitful, unethical way of doing business, was hoping people would think you were talking about Firstdream.

We both know Honest Jim that if you ever received ONE complaint from any person that Firstdream has scammed them you would have without any hesitation added Firstdream, spelled correctly, to your Blacklist.  As much as you despise me Honest Jim it has drove you crazy over the years that you could never get a single report from any client who had ever reported he was scammed or cheated. So what did YOU do Honest Jim?  Because you are a low life scumbag snake, because you have no morals, no ethics, YOU made up two names that resembled Firstdream hoping to fool some people and hoping some people would think that the original Firstdream was a scam agency.  Because you could not find anyone who had ever been cheated or scammed by Firstdream, YOU decided to take matters into your own hands and you created TWO false agencies whose name was similiar to Firstdream, but you changed the spelling.

You Honest Jim, have been busted. You have been exposed Honest Jim as to how reliable your Blacklist and your information is. You have created two agencies as scam agencies that do not, nor have ever existed. You created these two sites for the sole purpose of trying to indicate that my Firstdream was a scam agency.

Your personal feelings never come into play Honest Jim?  I think I have just proved you a liar.  Your decisions to add agencies to your Blacklist are based on fact alone Honest Jim?  Again, you are proven a liar. What are the facts to add agency First Dreem?  What are the facts you have to add Furst Dream?  What two men reported these agencies as scam? And the answer is you have no such facts, no such information because these agencies do not exist, you made them up. You made them up in an attempt to harm a good agency that you had never received a scam report on. Because I was the first to expose your ethics to the world, in an attempt to get even you made up the names of two agencies to resemble the name of my agency. You couldn't do it legally, so you tried to do it illegally.

Because of this out right scam activity of yours, because of all the other things I have indicated above, I say that YOU Honest Jim are a scammer and Agencyscams is a SCAM agency and as such I nominate you as RWD's first official Scam anti-scam agency.

[Jooky]

Ill join the dogpile.

Since the day I asked this Honest Jim guy regarding a site on his 'black list' (bride.ru) and he responded with 'just trust me, I get lots of complaints' I have found him to be a joke. I did end up using bride.ru against his advice and was very happy with the site.

I remember reading the story of some obssessed creep who was calling the girl he was stalking a scammer. Sure enough she was listed on Honest Jim's scammer list. I asked him about his to which he responded that he verifies all scammers. Bull shit. I called him on it. Under a different guise I reported a scammer to him. He didn't want my letters or any proof at all because 'he gets too many emails'. He just wanted the name, email, contacts and photos to add to his display. No proof needed. No verification was done of course, because I had made this one up.

Over time I've read just as many complaints about sites on Honest Jim's 'gold list' and I've read about sites on his 'black list'. His top agency breaks many of his own rules. Elena's models sells crap e-books and pushes fake monthly 'deals'. That's scam enough for me, but who cares? None of these sites and agencies are perfect. (Except for Richard's, I had to say that or he'll kick my butt). A scam agency is one that deliberately posts fake profiles and profits off of fake women. Many 'black listed' agencies are not scammers, they simply don't follow Honest Jim's rules. They are not obligated to do so.

Here is one of Honest Jim's rules that defines a good agency:

- Agency must reply to me and NOT argue with me about regulations.

That is absolutely ridiculous. I could decide today to be a self imposed regulator of the beer industry. Why not? I drink beer. So I write to Coors and tell them to comply with arbitrary regulations I make up (All beer must be in blue bottles for example). They don't respond. I guess that makes them a scam beer company.

No Honest Jim, agencies that don't reply to you aren't scammers. They simply do not take you seriously. Nobody is obligated to a 'self-imposed regulator' no matter how highly he thinks of himself.

Anyone attempting to portray himself as professional, but runs a 'bitch slap' list is a joke.

The guy is pathetic.

[William3rd]

Kudos to Jack's piece in this section. Well thought out and right on point.

[ZP]

With all my experience I sometimes don’t have the answer(s). Recently I was helping a fiancé that had been scammed out of thousands. And although it was a scam, certain issues had not been solved and some questions remained. So, the investigation continued.

It was thought that posting questions on a forum might yield answers. Days went by; weeks went by. People looked at the questions. No good answers were given by the so-called experts on various forums. What to do, what to do? Men were hurting and needed answers and closure.

Jim was contacted and given a brief explanation of the circumstances. He was polite and promptly replied. His answers were direct and to the point. He recommended a few references and they were contacted. They were of immense help and the questions were eventually answered.

I don’t often post on forums and don’t know the details of the feud between Jim and others. I can only say that he was helpful when nobody else was.

My advice: Call a truce; work it out; apologize to each other; do whatever it takes. It’s not about us. For me, it’s about helping people that have been scammed. It’s about stopping or slowing the scammers.

     As a reminder to people who have forgotten what it’s like to be new to something: Some of the men are poorly informed and make unwise decisions. And even if they were at fault for not following advice, they may be, nonetheless, emotionally hurt by a scammer. Teasing them, in my opinion, is not helpful. Their questions may seem, to well-seasoned people, naïve or silly. But, remember they may not know better. Ask yourself if you are helping them with your advice. Or, are you just talking and taking up ones and zeros on a forum and using it like a chat room. I say, if Jim can help, it’s good. If this forum can help, it’s good.

Try this: Simply assign a representative from this forum and have a discussion as to the gripe and try to find resolution.

[TexasBoar]

Hmmmmm . . . joined 3 days ago, last two posts pro "Honest Jim," first post a scam report on an Elena's Model client.  Who are you again? 

~Boar

[Kevin]

Would a agency that is on jim list blacklist, grey or white list that doesn't wish to be displayed on Jim because you fell you do not deserve to be listedplease contact me directly for assistance on getting removed. I would like to hear from on these agency owner only privately.


thanks
Kevin

[Admin]

Would a agency that is on jim list blacklist, grey or white list that doesn't wish to be displayed on Jim because you fell you do not deserve to be listedplease contact me directly for assistance on getting removed. I would like to hear from on these agency owner only privately.


thanks
Kevin

Kevin,

Can't Jim supply you the emails for the agencies on his various lists? I was of the impression he had at least tried to make contact with all of them. If so, he should have the email addresses so that you can write them directly. I think that will be much more effective to get the information you seek.

Just a thought.

- Dan

[Kevin]

Dan
 Yes, I could email everyone on the list and ask them why. I was checking to see if any of those agencies monitor this site as well Since this is where the topics is being discussed.

Kevin

[Rvrwind]

Well my agency is on the whitelist & as long as it remains there or on the goldlist I have no reason to remove it. Should it make the black or grey lists however that I would have a problem with as he has no grounds to put us on either of those.
Considering I removed his banner from my site I doubt we will ever make the gold list!

[Admin]

Well my agency is on the whitelist & as long as it remains there or on the goldlist I have no reason to remove it. Should it make the black or grey lists however that I would have a problem with as he has no grounds to put us on either of those.
Considering I removed his banner from my site I doubt we will ever make the gold list!

Richard,

Why is your agency NOT on the Gold List? Do they do something differently than your agency does?

- Dan

[Rvrwind]

As to why its not on the Gold list, that I do not know. Hell I can't even access the site anymore. He's never asked me for money, that I will say, but I know my agency is way more honest than some he has on his Gold list but what his criteria is to get to that list I don't know.