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Re: Hello All!
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2007, 07:51:11 AM »
I would like to echo some of the advice being given here.  You know you are going to be in Italy this summer and CAN add to the trip by going to Russia.  I would recommend getting a Premium Membership at Elena's Model's.  (I checked $499 for six months.) Then, start writing several women and see what happens.  By the time the summer
rolls around, you should probably be talking with one or two women you find very compelling.  Let the city you visit be determined by the women you are writing.  Also, in your introductory letter be sure to mention that you are going to Italy for a wedding followed by a likely visit to Russia.  I think this comment will serve you very well as it will indicate you are a good friend to go all that way for a wedding AND it will distinguish you from a keyboard Romeo. 

Just an idea.

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Re: Hello All!
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2007, 08:29:49 AM »
A word of caution:

Long,drawn out correspondence can become quite boring and counterproductive.
I would suggest sending your intro 4-6 weeks before your intended visit. JMHO

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« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2007, 08:46:28 AM »
A word of caution:

Long,drawn out correspondence can become quite boring and counterproductive.
I would suggest sending your intro 4-6 weeks before your intended visit. JMHO
  I agree Mir!  Most of the genuine women are interested in action!!! Meeting in person as soon as possible is your best bet! 

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Re: Hello All!
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2007, 09:18:13 AM »
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       I agree Mir!  Most of the genuine women are interested in action!!! Meeting in person as soon as possible is your best bet!         

exactly guys

women need action , the sooner the better:)

Oh da:)

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« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2007, 11:55:15 AM »
I would say IF you know exactly what you want and what you are looking for, then 4 to 6 weeks with someone is reasonable.  However, you might not meet that person in the first week or two.  So, I would suggest starting sooner rather than later.  IF he meets someone super compelling, he can always go prior to the wedding and then have the wedding trip be #2.  The important thing is to get started...and avoid paying $25 K.  Heck, for that kind of money, I would ask my wife to help you as she speaks belarussian, russian, and a bit of ukranian.

Personally, I started writing about 2 months prior to my trip, and I was lucky enough to meet my wife in the first 5 letters that I sent out.

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« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2007, 12:28:13 PM »
exactly guys

women need action , the sooner the better:)

Oh da:)
Jazzy, it is 'Oh daa daaaa daaaaaaaaaa' ;)

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Re: Hello All!
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2007, 12:41:11 PM »
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   Jazzy, it is 'Oh daa daaaa daaaaaaaaaa'     

Of course hahaha

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Definition of Real Good Traditional Russian Women
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2007, 06:36:13 PM »
Dear All,

People continually ask me why I married my beautiful wife. Alla Bereshkova best expresses my feelings for her and helps explain why in her writings that you can find here (http://www.venets.com/allaguide.html#p07) below.

Good luck to all of you who are seeking your soul mate.

DISCLAIMER: I did not find my wife through Alla or pay anything for meeting my wife.  The standard fee for Alla's service is $50k.  I am not promoting her services nor am I being compensated for posting her writings.

As in most societies, there are different types of women in Russia with different attitudes. Some of them are traditional - some are not. Let me give you a reasonable description of a traditional woman: The main things that separate her from a modern, "emancipated" woman are her priorities and values, which are dominantly oriented towards family, husband and children. She is generally free of egoism and ready without hesitation to give up her career and devote her life to her family. She will not view this as a sacrifice, but as a labor of love. And, she will not hesitate in making this decision. If needed, she will work her fingers to the bone in times of hardship. A traditional woman is somewhat old-fashioned in her attitudes and moral values. She is unwaveringly loyal, patient and forgiving, but intolerant to liberal, moral conceptions of living. She will not accept betrayal, lies and double standards of morality. She is stern with herself and her family with regard to these prerequisite standards.

A traditional woman is strong and proud. She doesn't need a man to depend on for financial survival. But, she does not want to live her life alone - a life without a family. More than anything, she wants with all her heart to be a wife and mother. She believes that this is her natural mission and destiny in life. Nothing is more important than the well-being of her family. She will feel happy and successful only if everything is well and secure in her home. She is not envious of career women and she will never regret her choice of family over career. Her decision comes not from weakness, but from her strong will, wisdom and common sense about what is most important for her family.

There are not many traditional women in these times. It is becoming more difficult to meet them in America and other western countries where many of the women (men, also) are becoming more self-centered and often narcissistic. Even in Russia, the numbers of traditional women are in decline. For someone not possessing a deep understanding of Russians, it is a difficult task to really know which ones are and which ones are not. If asked, the majority of Russian girls will tell you that they are traditional. But, unfortunately, only few of them will, in reality, be traditional. Some of them will lie, some will probably not realize, themselves, what it really means to be traditional. It takes a detailed knowledge and understanding of the Russian character and culture to identify a truly traditional Russian woman.

You can, for the larger part, deal with non-traditional Russian women in the same basic manner as with American and Western European women. All the rules that are beneficial to your relations with traditional Russian women will not likely help you and can easily make you vulnerable in attempting to apply those traditional rules to non-traditional Russian women.

If you are fortunate enough to meet a truly traditional Russian woman and you are going to Russia to visit her for the first time, here is some advice for you:

Never try to impress a traditional Russian lady with your money or material possessions. Don't describe or show pictures of your house, boat or other material wealth. Don't talk about your money. It is appropriate, as the situation dictates, to state that you are financially stable with a secure employment position or profession (all ladies everywhere like to feel some sense of security). If you dwell on material wealth, she will feel uncomfortable and think that you are trying to buy her. A traditional Russian woman, aside from an understandable desire for some security, is looking for your heart and soul. And, she needs to be needed. You will only gain entrance to her heart if you humbly share with her your problems, pains and loneliness. Be humble and honest about yourself. She's looking for sincerity, honesty and loyalty.

Consider taking modest or inexpensive luggage and avoid dressing in ultra-expensive clothing or jewelry while in Russia. Don't advertise the idea that you represent a potentially profitable target. Dress modest but tastefully. Although most Russian women can ill afford to actually purchase the latest fashion, they do keep up with trends and have very good taste. They will appreciate your tasteful appearance. Don't wear very bright clothes in Russia! Bright green, red and yellow, for instance, are considered loud and tasteless. The best color choices for clothing are pastels and earth tones. Also, wearing shorts in Russia is very inappropriate. Although a very small number of Russians do wear shorts, this kind of clothing in public is considered to be in bad taste. You can wear comfortable, casual clothes during the day. It is appropriate to wear a suit and tie to restaurants and the theatre. Usually, there are wardrobe checks. Check your pockets before you check your coat. If you leave money, documents or keys in your pockets, they can be stolen. While attending a movie or theater in Russia, you are not allowed to drink or eat during the performance.

Although standards are rapidly improving in tourist areas, the quality of food in many Russian restaurants is still not very good. The food portions are small and the prices are typically high. A modest dinner for two can cost as little as $25 or as high as $200 and up. It's very easy for an unwary traveler to unwittingly wind up in a restaurant at the higher end. Also, many restaurants in Russia are favorite hangouts for the Russian Mafia and New Russians - sometimes, one in the same. Seek advice and referrals and choose a restaurant with a good reputation and prices that fit your budget. Many Russian restaurants play loud music. Often, there are drunken people in these restaurants that can be rude and aggressive. Never allow anybody to involve you in a conflict. This is a strange country for you with strange customs. If you find yourself in a compromising position, quickly but politely pay your bill and leave. If you prefer, many U.S. restaurant chains have established their eateries in the most popular destinations such as Moscow and St. Petersburg. Note on tipping: Tipping is not a custom in Russia. But, in cities like Moscow and St. Petersburg, international norms are becoming more accepted. Take the time to decide where you are going to dine out and ask for advice from your interpreter or host.

Especially of your Russian lady is from a provincial area of Russia, she may not be experienced in dining out (and, especially with a foreigner). Encourage her to choose the meal she really likes. If she is a traditional lady, she will probably try to order the cheapest food or even say that she is not hungry. If she refuses to order food, do it yourself. She will overcome her shyness and eat. Be very patient with her. Dining in restaurants had been a cultural norm, but economic conditions of the last several years have crippled the ability of some Russians to afford this experience. It is often said that Russia is a land of paradoxes. Doctors can have a lower income than street sweepers. Some of Russia's most educated, cultured families afford to dine out.

Never ever allow your lady to go home in a taxi alone. It is not safe. I recommend that you do not use a taxi alone, either. There are too many cases of robbery and even murder connected with taxis in Russia. Public transportation in Moscow and St. Petersburg is very good. But, try not to travel during rush hours (7-8 a.m. and 6-7 p.m.). Buses and Metro (underground rail) are overcrowded during these hours. Note: Always offer your seat on public transportation to elderly passengers, women and small children.

Ask your lady what she would like to have - ice cream, sweets or other snacks - when you are walking in the city. She will appreciate your thoughtfulness. You will impress her if you buy her a bright balloon, a stuffed animal or a single rose. This will demonstrate affectionate attention. Sincere girls really do appreciate the little things. A sincere girl will almost never gravitate to the purchase of expensive merchandise, pricey restaurants or other items. If your date does this, take it as a warning. Note: Never buy flowers in even numbers. Always buy them in odd numbers.

[Additionally] They have such strong intuition and "internal vision" that they can love a man just for his soul and heart. That it spiritual love, and it is the highest love that one could hope to achieve. The traditional Russian woman who will love you will not love you for your bedroom eyes, your sexy butt, or your strong physique. She will love you for who you are, unconditionally. She will help you to see yourself in a different way -- the way you were conceived and made by our Creator. This love will purify and ennoble you, and you will understand the magic that a traditional Russian woman can bring to your life.


Best,

E
 
« Last Edit: April 20, 2007, 06:41:38 PM by Erwin »

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Re: Definition of Real Good Traditional Russian Women
« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2007, 08:46:03 PM »
Dear All,

People continually ask me why I married my beautiful wife. Alla Bereshkova best expresses my feelings for her and helps explain why in her writings that you can find here (http://www.venets.com/allaguide.html#p07) below.

Good luck to all of you who are seeking your soul mate.

DISCLAIMER: I did not find my wife through Alla or pay anything for meeting my wife.  The standard fee for Alla's service is $50k.  I am not promoting her services nor am I being compensated for posting her writings.

As in most societies, there are different types of women in Russia with different attitudes. Some of them are traditional - some are not. Let me give you a reasonable description of a traditional woman: The main things that separate her from a modern, "emancipated" woman are her priorities and values, which are dominantly oriented towards family, husband and children. She is generally free of egoism and ready without hesitation to give up her career and devote her life to her family. She will not view this as a sacrifice, but as a labor of love. And, she will not hesitate in making this decision. If needed, she will work her fingers to the bone in times of hardship. A traditional woman is somewhat old-fashioned in her attitudes and moral values. She is unwaveringly loyal, patient and forgiving, but intolerant to liberal, moral conceptions of living. She will not accept betrayal, lies and double standards of morality. She is stern with herself and her family with regard to these prerequisite standards.

A traditional woman is strong and proud. She doesn't need a man to depend on for financial survival. But, she does not want to live her life alone - a life without a family. More than anything, she wants with all her heart to be a wife and mother. She believes that this is her natural mission and destiny in life. Nothing is more important than the well-being of her family. She will feel happy and successful only if everything is well and secure in her home. She is not envious of career women and she will never regret her choice of family over career. Her decision comes not from weakness, but from her strong will, wisdom and common sense about what is most important for her family.

There are not many traditional women in these times. It is becoming more difficult to meet them in America and other western countries where many of the women (men, also) are becoming more self-centered and often narcissistic. Even in Russia, the numbers of traditional women are in decline. For someone not possessing a deep understanding of Russians, it is a difficult task to really know which ones are and which ones are not. If asked, the majority of Russian girls will tell you that they are traditional. But, unfortunately, only few of them will, in reality, be traditional. Some of them will lie, some will probably not realize, themselves, what it really means to be traditional. It takes a detailed knowledge and understanding of the Russian character and culture to identify a truly traditional Russian woman.

You can, for the larger part, deal with non-traditional Russian women in the same basic manner as with American and Western European women. All the rules that are beneficial to your relations with traditional Russian women will not likely help you and can easily make you vulnerable in attempting to apply those traditional rules to non-traditional Russian women.

If you are fortunate enough to meet a truly traditional Russian woman and you are going to Russia to visit her for the first time, here is some advice for you:

Never try to impress a traditional Russian lady with your money or material possessions. Don't describe or show pictures of your house, boat or other material wealth. Don't talk about your money. It is appropriate, as the situation dictates, to state that you are financially stable with a secure employment position or profession (all ladies everywhere like to feel some sense of security). If you dwell on material wealth, she will feel uncomfortable and think that you are trying to buy her. A traditional Russian woman, aside from an understandable desire for some security, is looking for your heart and soul. And, she needs to be needed. You will only gain entrance to her heart if you humbly share with her your problems, pains and loneliness. Be humble and honest about yourself. She's looking for sincerity, honesty and loyalty.

Consider taking modest or inexpensive luggage and avoid dressing in ultra-expensive clothing or jewelry while in Russia. Don't advertise the idea that you represent a potentially profitable target. Dress modest but tastefully. Although most Russian women can ill afford to actually purchase the latest fashion, they do keep up with trends and have very good taste. They will appreciate your tasteful appearance. Don't wear very bright clothes in Russia! Bright green, red and yellow, for instance, are considered loud and tasteless. The best color choices for clothing are pastels and earth tones. Also, wearing shorts in Russia is very inappropriate. Although a very small number of Russians do wear shorts, this kind of clothing in public is considered to be in bad taste. You can wear comfortable, casual clothes during the day. It is appropriate to wear a suit and tie to restaurants and the theatre. Usually, there are wardrobe checks. Check your pockets before you check your coat. If you leave money, documents or keys in your pockets, they can be stolen. While attending a movie or theater in Russia, you are not allowed to drink or eat during the performance.

Although standards are rapidly improving in tourist areas, the quality of food in many Russian restaurants is still not very good. The food portions are small and the prices are typically high. A modest dinner for two can cost as little as $25 or as high as $200 and up. It's very easy for an unwary traveler to unwittingly wind up in a restaurant at the higher end. Also, many restaurants in Russia are favorite hangouts for the Russian Mafia and New Russians - sometimes, one in the same. Seek advice and referrals and choose a restaurant with a good reputation and prices that fit your budget. Many Russian restaurants play loud music. Often, there are drunken people in these restaurants that can be rude and aggressive. Never allow anybody to involve you in a conflict. This is a strange country for you with strange customs. If you find yourself in a compromising position, quickly but politely pay your bill and leave. If you prefer, many U.S. restaurant chains have established their eateries in the most popular destinations such as Moscow and St. Petersburg. Note on tipping: Tipping is not a custom in Russia. But, in cities like Moscow and St. Petersburg, international norms are becoming more accepted. Take the time to decide where you are going to dine out and ask for advice from your interpreter or host.

Especially of your Russian lady is from a provincial area of Russia, she may not be experienced in dining out (and, especially with a foreigner). Encourage her to choose the meal she really likes. If she is a traditional lady, she will probably try to order the cheapest food or even say that she is not hungry. If she refuses to order food, do it yourself. She will overcome her shyness and eat. Be very patient with her. Dining in restaurants had been a cultural norm, but economic conditions of the last several years have crippled the ability of some Russians to afford this experience. It is often said that Russia is a land of paradoxes. Doctors can have a lower income than street sweepers. Some of Russia's most educated, cultured families afford to dine out.

Never ever allow your lady to go home in a taxi alone. It is not safe. I recommend that you do not use a taxi alone, either. There are too many cases of robbery and even murder connected with taxis in Russia. Public transportation in Moscow and St. Petersburg is very good. But, try not to travel during rush hours (7-8 a.m. and 6-7 p.m.). Buses and Metro (underground rail) are overcrowded during these hours. Note: Always offer your seat on public transportation to elderly passengers, women and small children.

Ask your lady what she would like to have - ice cream, sweets or other snacks - when you are walking in the city. She will appreciate your thoughtfulness. You will impress her if you buy her a bright balloon, a stuffed animal or a single rose. This will demonstrate affectionate attention. Sincere girls really do appreciate the little things. A sincere girl will almost never gravitate to the purchase of expensive merchandise, pricey restaurants or other items. If your date does this, take it as a warning. Note: Never buy flowers in even numbers. Always buy them in odd numbers.

[Additionally] They have such strong intuition and "internal vision" that they can love a man just for his soul and heart. That it spiritual love, and it is the highest love that one could hope to achieve. The traditional Russian woman who will love you will not love you for your bedroom eyes, your sexy butt, or your strong physique. She will love you for who you are, unconditionally. She will help you to see yourself in a different way -- the way you were conceived and made by our Creator. This love will purify and ennoble you, and you will understand the magic that a traditional Russian woman can bring to your life.


Best,

E
 

Erwin,

...excellent job! Who are you? Russian or WM? One this your essay can answer at all questions here from WM about russian women. 

Sofia.

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Re: Definition of Real Good Traditional Russian Women
« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2007, 10:49:54 PM »
Erwin,

...excellent job! Who are you? Russian or WM? One this your essay can answer at all questions here from WM about russian women. 

Sofia.

Sofia,

Erwin is not the author of this essay  :)  Alla Bereshkova is. This Russian woman did a tremendous job indeed. However, it would be a good topic for a separate discussion, wouldn't it?
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Re: Hello All!
« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2007, 12:34:31 AM »
welcome elq

You will learn alot from RWD board and will find the forums interesting.  The best way to get started as already stated is to hop a plane to Russia or Ukraine.  When I started my search, I made the mistake of using paysites that charge for e-mail, video chats, messages and NO contact information. When I found RWD site I learned about the money making machines, and false e-mails, etc.  I then stayed only with free or pay sites that give you contact information.   I found my lovely "traditional" lady from Russia (near Volgograd).  Russian women can  be shy and reserved in public, but once you love, respect, and show affection(which i like), in private she will welcome you into her home and and return that love and affection more than you can imagine.  I  read forums here and elsewhere and read books about Russian culture and women. This helped me greatly.  I had been to Europe many years ago , but Russia was a whole new experience.  You will need a visa for Russia, but not for Ukraine.  I used Go to Russia.com for pickup service at airport and apartments.  I only used a local agency to introduce us when I got there, then we were on our own.  She spoke fairly good english, so that is a plus. You can read about the pros and cons of language level on threads here.   My fiancee recently flew down to Kiev to me there for a week, and I enjoyed the Ukraine also.  The english language is more prominent there on menus, signs, and younger people tend to know more english in both countries (and other FSU).   My fiancee is now waiting for visa to come to USA for our marriage.   Good Luck!   -jj



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Re: Definition of Real Good Traditional Russian Women
« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2007, 07:17:58 PM »
Erwin,

...excellent job! Who are you? Russian or WM? One this your essay can answer at all questions here from WM about russian women. 

Sofia.

Hi Sofia,

I am an American.  This essay is written by Alla Bereshkova who best expresses how I truly feel about my wife and helps explain why I married my wife.

You can find Alla's writings here:
http://www.venets.com/allaguide.html#p07

Warm regards,

E

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Re: Definition of Real Good Traditional Russian Women
« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2007, 09:47:05 PM »
Hi Sofia,

I am an American.  This essay is written by Alla Bereshkova who best expresses how I truly feel about my wife and helps explain why I married my wife.

You can find Alla's writings here:
http://www.venets.com/allaguide.html#p07

Warm regards,

E


Thank you, Erwin.

First time I could not open this site. Now I have this chance to read. I really think this essay could give you a possibility to unerstand your wife better. It is very usefull thing for WM.

And I see one american man could understand the russian mentality. :) It is lovely!

happy life with russian wife!

Sofia.

   

 

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