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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #125 on: March 08, 2007, 05:36:39 PM »
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« Last Edit: March 08, 2007, 05:41:35 PM by Kvinna »
When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I didn’t speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.

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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #126 on: March 08, 2007, 05:47:15 PM »
mmm, The Wive, give please the link where I wrote all turists are sex-tourists
Nowhere-but I know your forum,Kvinna. Ok,lets agree you re better cos you re from Russia and go to other topics. I am tired to fight,think what you think but dont insult ok. Hope it will make you feel better.

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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #127 on: March 08, 2007, 05:52:17 PM »
Exactly dear  I/O  I know what you've said it is true and I was wrong to actually be honest and too way sincere with those people , and  yeah maybe the pic of those people will change but again how it will change ? if I already found out that it is difficult for me to communicate with such kinda people who press with their opinion and their point of view and their so called wisdom

What you fail to see and continue to fail to change is that in almost every post you are belittling somebody or telling them that they are inferior to you. You play the part of the poor little misunderstood girl in one sentence and then tell someone they are worthless in the next. That is why people are not being pleasant to you. Your attitude and "I am better than you" complex is your problem. Do not expect people here to just think that it is okay because you are an "impulsive person".

And to say that you have not crapped on Ukraine every chance you get is just a lie.

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It is difficult to be opened with these people since they are very very critical and only accept person if he thinks like them or supports their opinion, unfortunately am not so good in expressing my opinion in a different way I am impulsive person but  nobody actually blamed me ever for lack of brains like there catzeammouse did  and some others, though I do not care but its a little out of my  control to ignore it

we are all learning and trying  to communicate  in the most positive way and  it is not only about ukrainians it is about many topics ,  I see no understanding at all here.....

You have shown no acceptance of others so why would you expect it from others? I did not say lack of brains. I said that you showed no intellect in your posts. The reaction to you is well within your ability to control. Because you do not care what you write or who you crap on with your words only shows more of your personal issues and shows nothing of the intelligence behind the words. When you give no understanding to others you will get no understanding from others.

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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #128 on: March 08, 2007, 05:57:39 PM »
Sorry Kvinna, but I cannot really understand the point you are trying to make in your last post ??? :noidea:.
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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #129 on: March 08, 2007, 06:00:48 PM »
Nowhere-but I know your forum,Kvinna. Ok,lets agree you re better cos you re from Russia and go to other topics. I am tired to fight,think what you think but dont insult ok. Hope it will make you feel better.

OK, so knowing my forum you suppose you can read my mind? lol
Don't you think you often point people what to do and in what topic to write
Anyway, I have nothing against you personally, but fact is fact Ukrainians are not Angels, as well as Russians are not Demons

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Sorry Kvinna, but I cannot really understand the point you are trying to make in your last post

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When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I didn’t speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.

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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #130 on: March 08, 2007, 06:13:06 PM »
OK, so knowing my forum you suppose you can read my mind? lol
Don't you think you often point people what to do and in what topic to write
Anyway, I have nothing against you personally, but fact is fact Ukrainians are not Angels, as well as Russians are not Demons

Merelly helped you to count sites with escot services as you have started doing this
No,I dont read your mind and not pretend to.
I point often? Examples please.I think I dont do anything without a reason.
And I never had said russians are bad and ukrainians are good. I just see the attacks on ukrainians pretty often from some girls which is offensive to me.

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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #131 on: March 08, 2007, 06:17:17 PM »
I just see the attacks on ukrainians pretty often from some girls which is offensive to me.

And I see assaults Russian reputations that also is very offensive to me.
When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I didn’t speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.

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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #132 on: March 08, 2007, 06:24:03 PM »
And I see assaults Russian reputations that also is very offensive to me.
Who assaults russian reputations?

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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #133 on: March 08, 2007, 10:27:52 PM »
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     Who assaults russian reputations?           

many people here

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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #134 on: March 08, 2007, 10:33:15 PM »
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               You have shown no acceptance of others so why would you expect it from others? I did not say lack of brains. I said that you showed no intellect in your posts. The reaction to you is well within your ability to control. Because you do not care what you write or who you crap on with your words only shows more of your personal issues and shows nothing of the intelligence behind the words. When you give no understanding to others you will get no understanding from others.

Ken             


I do not need your understanding  as I know you will never understand me with  a soul of stone

I asked you not to insult me

I never insulted your personally and everyone else here

I just pointed my opinion once again, god is that so hard to understand - what I said is that I never met normal ukraines but that does not mean they are not normal, why you made fuzz of it, you can allow yourself insult russians so easily , I see no reason why I should not tell about my experience with ukraines

All the best to your wisdom Ken

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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #135 on: March 09, 2007, 12:03:26 AM »
and from some foreign guys who have no idea about our culture at all .

Jazz  This is probably the closest you have gone to hitting the mark for quite a few posts.  Most of us have little to no idea of Russian culture other than the short amount of experience some of us have had in Russia.  You can do much to help in this area if you channel your energy in the right directions. 

I had hoped when you joined in here that you would help that aspect of things quite a bit.  I think you can, but this ceaseless nonsense is doing nothing to help anyone.  Ken (Catz) is no particular friend of mine, but you should know that he is married to a Russian woman from the same city as my fiance' and in fact his wife and my fiance' have spoken recently by telephone to arrange some minor logistical matters.  The point is, the man is not ignorant regarding Russia. Thus some of the inference of your remarks is simply wrong.

What has occured in this thread is little more than highlighting the fact that there is some cross border rivalry between Russia and Ukraine.  Frankly it is old news and most are tired of it...And it is just that, cross border rivalry.

Jazz many or your comments in this thread which you see as honest, are much more than that, they are abrasive and offensive to many, then you have allowed that to degenerate into a simple pissing match.  Again, Sis, you can do much better.

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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #136 on: March 09, 2007, 12:16:23 AM »

I do not need your understanding  as I know you will never understand me with  a soul of stone

I asked you not to insult me

I never insulted your personally and everyone else here

I just pointed my opinion once again, god is that so hard to understand - what I said is that I never met normal ukraines but that does not mean they are not normal, why you made fuzz of it, you can allow yourself insult russians so easily , I see no reason why I should not tell about my experience with ukraines

it is very easy, most of those guys hunt ukrainian girls, so as far as those girls only please them, they will defend them. But as soon those girl will act in not that way they wished, those guys start scream: Oh those RUSSIANS, they all are scammers and GC whore
When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I didn’t speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.

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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #137 on: March 09, 2007, 12:24:41 AM »
JC

I am sorry to say that I disagree with you that there have been many insults against Russians on this board.
Yes you might feel that some have insulted you personally during arguments but no one has said that they have never met a good,honest Russian man/woman.

Kaveena

So your point is that all whores are Ukrainian and all Saintly women are Russian? :)

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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #138 on: March 09, 2007, 12:27:39 AM »
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  it is very easy, most of those guys hunt ukrainian girls, so as far as those girls only please them, they will defend them. But as soon those girl will act in not that way they wished, those guys start scream: Oh those RUSSIANS, they all are scammers and GC whore          

But the saddest fact is that they will never admit that and the people who speak outload about this will be the most evil people ever  for them

I prefer to stay out of scandals

let them say and act how they like :)


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   Jazz many or your comments in this thread which you see as honest, are much more than that, they are abrasive and offensive to many, then you have allowed that to degenerate into a simple pissing match.  Again, Sis, you can do much better.

  


yeah well you are right as always but again  you can not give me your head to live...... unfortunately:)

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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #139 on: March 09, 2007, 12:34:08 AM »
yes Mir

insulted the way too much and with such language and plus discrimination of my appearance, which she did not like ,at least I am using my own pic and not covering the shameful face with the pic of  some ballet dancer


If you feel so great about ukrainian women read the words ukraine person writes without any remorse, just judging the other person by the posts


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     You know,wehn I see something silly and evil,yes,this irritates me. And you re silly,pardon my french,cos you express just a blind hate which you cant explain properly. You think you re better than *ukraines*?(by the way a proper spelling will be ukrainians) What makes you better huh? Just for your info,my dad is a Don cossak too,so what? I look much more russian than you,so what? I like the russian people sincerely,but when I see someone crazy like you,my first emotion is to say-oh ,shut up! Fortunately,your example wont change my opinion about the russian people. And if you think the forums are a trash can for express your hate and negativiness,be ready to get kick under your butt. The other people dont have to read your bullsh*t.
 
 
      


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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #140 on: March 09, 2007, 12:40:44 AM »
Kaveena
So your point is that all whores are Ukrainian and all Saintly women are Russian? :)

First of all, I am Kvinna, not Kaveena, it is very important cos correct typed name demostrates respect to your correspondent

My point is, let's call thing their own name. If you met woman that lives in Ukraine and were scammed, write please Ukrainian woman, if you were scamed by woman that lives in Russia, write Russian woman.
By the way, ask this Norge would he like if you call him a Swede? Or maybe you would ask an arab if he wants to be called a jew?
When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I didn’t speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.

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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #141 on: March 09, 2007, 02:52:56 AM »
JC

I am not saying that words written against you were not insulting,and even the writer would agree that they were meant to insult you as the writer felt insulted as well and was retaliating.
I am also not saying that writing rude words in an argument is good by anyone.
All I am saying it that I don't think there is any bias here against Russians.

Respectfully Kvinna

I agree with you.
The only problems is that many women from Ukraine are Russian speaking and call themselves Russians!

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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #142 on: March 09, 2007, 03:44:36 AM »
Did anybody say catfight ? ;D

I know both Ukrainians and Russians (women and men) who are sincere and good people. And I also know that there will be an eternal fight between them.
For people from Mosow one of the reasons is that they have trouble with immigrants from Ukraine, same like Americans refer to Mexicans at times here. So Sandro examine the sites of your bad girls in Moscow and check out how many of these bad women were actually born there and how many moved to Moscow from another country. It will change the stats. ;)

In this case I think that both sides who are defending their nationalies so fiers should have a drink together. Then they will both agree that there are good and bad people everywhere. And usually the bad and poorest are the first ones to migrate.
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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #143 on: March 09, 2007, 03:49:35 AM »
(Gentle)women & (gentle)men, please refrain from further nationality quarrels, and leave catfights to me ;).

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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #144 on: March 09, 2007, 04:07:59 AM »
So Sandro examine the sites of your bad girls in Moscow and check out how many of these bad women were actually born there and how many moved to Moscow from another country.
Shadow, I would if I could, but that type of information is not divulged on those sites, for obvious reasons ;).
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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #145 on: March 09, 2007, 04:34:15 AM »
I swore out to take participation in such threads These foreigners can't make any differences among ~200 nations of FSU preferring to stick  RUSSIAN label to all mud they met here ( as well as they never could get who they deal with in Moscow - while for Muscovites all is clear from first word such "Moscow" girls try to pronounce  ::) ) And any attempt to ask a favour to be more accurate in definition i seen like Russian chauvinism and Moscow arrogance

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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #146 on: March 09, 2007, 05:02:00 AM »
Shadow, I would if I could, but that type of information is not divulged on those sites, for obvious reasons ;).

but anyway, can you tell us the reason you are so interested in escort service in Russia? You collect a lot of links on your site, really wonder why.
Oh just saw Mamma Roma with Anna Magnani, so I think nothing was changed since 1962 so you could find a lot of prostitutes in Italy

Ah, Len, let's see Notti di Cabiria with Giulietta Masina
« Last Edit: March 09, 2007, 05:05:04 AM by Kvinna »
When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I didn’t speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.

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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #147 on: March 09, 2007, 05:35:57 AM »
All we need to do is look at the huge number of escort services in Las Vegas and I think we can all agree that the US has the worst prostitution problem in the world, not Russian and not Ukraine.  Once again, America is #1!  So can we all agree with this and stop the nationality battles?

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« Reply #148 on: March 09, 2007, 05:42:21 AM »
Yes and a light hearted joke about nationalaties (I have omitted Russia and or Ukraine for obvious reasons) :)

A worldwide survey was conducted by the UN. The only question asked was:

 "Would you please give your honest opinion about solutions to the food
 shortage in the rest of the world?"
 

The survey was a huge failure,

In Africa they didn't know what 'food' meant,
In India they didn't know what 'honest' meant,
In Europe they didn't know what 'shortage' meant,
In China they didn't know what 'opinion' meant,
In the Middle East they didn't know what 'solution' meant,
In South America they didn't know what 'please' meant,
And in the USA they didn't know what 'the rest of the world' meant!

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Re: Desperate or not? FSU women
« Reply #149 on: March 09, 2007, 06:18:42 AM »
Jazzy, people get opinionated.   It is part of being a human being.   When you say all Ukrainians are bad you are insulting people who are Ukrainian and those who have a Ukrainian wife.   When you do that you can expect some to be upset and to post things you don't like to hear about your judgement.   The cold hard reality of it is that there are some wonderful people both Russian and Ukrainian and probably a few of each that are not so wonderful.  If we did not have the highest respect for Russian people in general and Russian women in particular we would not be here.  The same goes for Ukrainians. 

We guys too get opinionated.  I was into a difference of opinion a while back with another member who was basically saying the gals from Moscow are head and shoulders better than all others.   I didn't agree but whatever we expressed was just our opinion.   It has no bearing on reality.  It is our view of the world.

Jazzy, I am glad you are here.   I like your posts and it is always interesting to see how anyone from another culture thinks and the ideas they have.   To be honest I like your posts much better when you are not criticizing others.   I have a feeling if you stop criticizing others, other people will stop criticizing you.

 

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