Newspapers ads.......(How to meet your princess)

[Thor]

hehe, no i mean photos of the happy couple, but if you can't don't worry 

Orlando,

Look at my TR Kharkov 26 June to 27 July and you will find photos...

[Thor]

[Norwegian man 36 years old wants to meet girls beetween 18-32 for serious relashionship/quote]

18

Yes 18 is very young. But a relashionship beetween a 18 year old girl and a 35 year old man is more common here than back home....BUT I would not recommend any one to marry a 18 year old girl if you are over 30...

[Kuna]

Hi Kuna,

I have never said that all agency's are bad. Kevin Hayes said that only 1% of the agency's was scammers, but Richard at Tver also said that the statement that Kevin gave was totally wrong. A lot of the agency's are scam, and YES MANY MANY goldigers list them self at agency's. BUT I know that there are several honest agency's like Richards in Tver, and if you want to use a agency every man should go to one of this.....

I also read a post here about a TR from Poltava where the poster said that he saw girls he dated from the agency sitting with their boyfriend in the cafe, and then Jack Bragg who has been around in FSU since mid 90 s said that MANY agency girls had local boyfriends..... . This guy wrote this about the girls he meet: He had 12 cancellations of the total 19 girls he wrote to...Thats bad, and they had used the photo shop on the ladies photos..WHY? This is business and photo of good looking ladies attracts men to come. When they come and see that the girls isn't like the same as on the photos so is it to late anyway. Fareaway from home and you don't want to waist time and then you meet the girls anyway....

This is how many agency's are, and especially the one runned by local peoples...BUT yes there are several good agency's.Ask on this site for what kind of agency who is honest and use this ones if you want to use a agency.

Yes ads are a good idea, most men will meet a lot of girls by using a ad. Especially from september to May-June. In late July and august are most peoples on a vacation here in Ukraine. Early fall and the students are back again.

Thor... I think you did but it might have been a slip of the tongue...  'tis OK...  We won't debate it because Rvrwnd seemed to clear it up at the time...

Back to the original post though... what do you think the success rate is for men marrying via the advert process compared to someone using "say"... Elena's Models...  We know EM's is pretty much middle of the road...  Some scammers (like some laies you met thrugh ads)...  mostly genuine girls (like I met through EM's)...

Some stats would be interesting...

1. How many men place Adverts
2. # responses they get to their ads
3. How many meetings do most manage?
4. How many get married?

[TigerPaws]

I will go a bit further and say that no man should marry before he is 35 and in general men should not look to girls under 24 and 25 would be better.

TigerPaws

[TigerPaws]

Some stats would be interesting...

1. How many men place Adverts
2. # responses they get to their ads
3. How many meetings do most manage?
4. How many get married?

Kuna,

Stats of any kind in this area are problematical at best, I do not believe you will find much of anything except anecdotal reports showing success and failure for individual men

TigerPaws 

[Kuna]

TigerPaws,

That might be true but this is about as close to the source as we'll ever get...

[Thor]

Thor... I think you did but it might have been a slip of the tongue...  'tis OK...  We won't debate it because Rvrwnd seemed to clear it up at the time...

Back to the original post though... what do you think the success rate is for men marrying via the advert process compared to someone using "say"... Elena's Models...  We know EM's is pretty much middle of the road...  Some scammers (like some laies you met thrugh ads)...  mostly genuine girls (like I met through EM's)...

Some stats would be interesting...

1. How many men place Adverts
2. # responses they get to their ads
3. How many meetings do most manage?
4. How many get married?

I know only 1 guy that helps with ads and thats Slava. Most of his clients runs ads here in Kharkov. I will try to answer your questions, but it is not easy..:

2. Most all of Slavas clients use ads. I don't know how many clients he have every year, but it is between 20-35. Could be more. It is different from year to year.

2. It depends of when you run your ads.If you run your ads in July-August when most peoples has gone for vacation you would have less compared to falland spring. The latest client had around 50. I had around 100. But one guy last summer had only around 10.

3. It is up to your self how many you want to meet. I meet around 40. Most I meet 8 girls on 1 day. But it depends on your self.

4. Of Slavas clients 30 to 40% gets married. But some men are very unrealistic and wants only young model looking girls......Then it is difficult to find a girl for this men. And if you don't want to flash the cash, you will never have a chance to catch this hot ladies. I also know that several of Slavas clients has come here and told him that they wants to find a lady and marry her. BUT when they are here it turns out that they are sextourist.....A very common problem in this business...

If you are realistic and understand that it is hard to find a model type and would be happy with a normal good looking girl, then you have every chance to be successful by using ads.

If you are very rich and wants to find a very hot girl and you know that you can more or less "buy" love, then better use agency's. Read what ALANTODD wrote in "Greetings from Milwaukee" about such agency girls.

[TigerPaws]

TigerPaws,

That might be true but this is about as close to the source as we'll ever get...

Kuna,

You may be right but the stats will not be useful so what is the point?

TigerPaws

[Rvrwind]

We also use newspaper ads to promote some of our male & female clients.
It works resonably well in some cases, not so much in others. But what it does for our clients is allows us to screen those who reply so that they don't have to wade through all the udesirables first. We pull out those that don't fit his/her criteria & only introduce them to the ones who do fit. This gves them a finer tuned group to work with. Those that don't fit we offer the chance to join our program, many do, some do not.
Actual stats, sorry, don't got, but from a business prespective it is good for business.

[Rags II]

I tried an ad in Kyiv and got a very good response even though it was a short notice (I'll be there in two weeks) deal. There were several great prospects that I never got to meet before I met my dreamgirl and ended my search.

I would suggest that this is far more productive than buying addresses or showing up at an agency and arranging dates with someone who knows nothing about you or even what you look like. At least they are interested in something about you (not a totally scamproof concept).

Jack has a great system where the ladies write to a local address and his people forward the letters to you. Translations and even "thanks but I'm not interested" response letters can be arranged for a nominal fee.

Now may not be the best time to place an ad as many ladies are on vacation right now but during those long cold winter months the papers and ads get read pretty thoroughly. They are also hard copies which can be passed around and stay in circulation for months unlike cyber ads.

[BC]

I remember MIL at the kitchen table.. she pointed out an ad placed by another man..  I told her that I advertise with my feet instead..  made for a good chuckle.

*IF* I were ever to try to seek a FSU woman, a simple newspaper ad might well be the choice, followed up by hand-written snail mail for the first go 'round.

[Thor]

I tried an ad in Kyiv and got a very good response even though it was a short notice (I'll be there in two weeks) deal. There were several great prospects that I never got to meet before I met my dreamgirl and ended my search.

I would suggest that this is far more productive than buying addresses or showing up at an agency and arranging dates with someone who knows nothing about you or even what you look like. At least they are interested in something about you (not a totally scamproof concept).

Jack has a great system where the ladies write to a local address and his people forward the letters to you. Translations and even "thanks but I'm not interested" response letters can be arranged for a nominal fee.

Now may not be the best time to place an ad as many ladies are on vacation right now but during those long cold winter months the papers and ads get read pretty thoroughly. They are also hard copies which can be passed around and stay in circulation for months unlike cyber ads.

Rags II,

Yes newspapers ads in the fall, winter and spring is a good idea, and it is a HUGE money saver compared to buy addresses at agency's. I guess that Jack knows how to do this and my friend in Kharkov Slava had worked with ads for almost 10 years now and he is a expert .

Yes you can place ads in newspapers and also in magazines here in Ukraine. It depends on how much you will spend on the ad...

[Rvrwind]

Well I can Tell you we ran an ad on Monday for a guy that wants to come, hasn't decided yet, & yesterday & today we have a list of 19 ladies who are wanting to meet him when he comes & he's 53.
Now we have all these ladies come to the office & fill in profiles & then check his criteria agianst their profiles & then we save those that match, the ones that don't match will have he chance to join our agency or not, the ones that do will pay a membership, have their pics taken & start writing to him on their own dime. If he wishes to respond he will buy a membership & then the ladies he is writing to no longer pay.
The ad ran again today so I expect more calls to come in for the rest of the week.
Thor is correct ads do work, as long as you have somebody screening the applicants, otherwise you wind up with plenty that are nowhere near what you are looking for.
Also as Thor stated, Summer is a bad time, the replies are way down. Many ladies are on holidays & are out of circulation during the summer. The best time to come here is Spring, Fall & Winter, You will find your odds increased dramatically.

[Jack]

Actually Thor I was a little surprised to see a few things about the way Slave was running ads. I was hoping to meet with Slava on my last trip to Kharkov, we had planed to meet for some time and then a few days before we were to meet Slava had to cancel.
I was hoping to go into more details as to what he was doing and even thought I might seek his help when I get busy.  But after learning a few things and seeing Slava's price was 66% more than what I was charging clients I realized I could not use his help for running ads in Kharkov.

I think we do a lot of things alike, but the few things different are major. We try to run any guys ads some 5 weeks before he arrives into Kharkov. We run our ads in three or four local Kharkov newspapers. All ads have the man's photo, his e-mail address and a local Kharkov mailing address and phone number.  Many ladies call, asking if this man is really coming to Kharkov and she wants to meet him. We tell the ladies to bring us her photo to the office in the center or to mail it to us. Some ladies say they do not have a photo. We tell the ladies no photos, no meetings.  Once we get letters from ladies we scan a copy of the ladies letters and photos, send to the man and he tells us yes or no as to if he has interest to met this lady.  For the ladies he does have interest to meet we go about setting a day, time and place for meeting and of course include an interpreter if one is needed.

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[Daveman]

I think this newspaper ad thing is a hell of an idea.  Do they allow posting of ads in English if preferred to receive responses only from ladies who can actually read it?    Or must they only be in Russian?

This seems like it would be a great way to expand a search into different areas. Anyone else actually tried it? How about that free aviso link?  their affiliates seem to be items for sale kinds of publications, which I guess could be applicable in certain circumstances! 

Dave

[orlando]

I tried free aviso ad in english too but i don't know if was published because all ads need to be approved and i can't see the newspaper

[Rvrwind]

I think this newspaper ad thing is a hell of an idea.  Do they allow posting of ads in English if preferred to receive responses only from ladies who can actually read it?    Or must they only be in Russian?

Don't know about anywhere else but our ads can be in Russian or English.

[Thor]

I tried free aviso ad in english too but i don't know if was published because all ads need to be approved and i can't see the newspaper

WHY put in the ad in English in a Russian speaking country???????????????????????? Of course you put the ad in Russian!!! And yes it is a great idea, but it is very difficult to do it by your self, especially if you are a newbie. You need someone to screen who can be scammers and who is serious.... .

[Kuna]

Ta-daaaaaa... The close!

 

WHY put in the ad in English in a Russian speaking country???????????????????????? Of course you put the ad in Russian!!! And yes it is a great idea, but it is very difficult to do it by your self, especially if you are a newbie. You need someone to screen who can be scammers and who is serious.... .

Thor,

Wouldn't it limit the responses more to Engish speaking girls if the ad was in English?

[I/O]

Ta-daaaaaa... The close!

'Twas thunkin' likewise ol' china. 'Twas thunkin likewise. Anyone require some "Hands on (arse) screening", me's happy to oblige.

I/O

[Rvrwind]

Wouldn't it limit the responses more to Engish speaking girls if the ad was in English?

Exactly!!!!

Anyone require some "Hands on (arse) screening", me's happy to oblige.

Back off Bubba!!! Thats my job, LOL. 

[Jack]

  Wouldn't it limit the responses more to English speaking girls if the ad was in English?   

Kuna we have found the most success by printing newspaper ads in Russian and stating in the ad the lady must be able to speak at least a little English.

When only written in English we have found a lesser response rate as compared to ads being published in Russian. Being written in Russian all girls who are interested will read and maybe reply. 

As many of you guys know most Russian women want to be a perfectionist, or close to it, with anything they do and speaking/reading English is no different.   So many Russian women underestimate there own ability to speak English. This is why I have always said that if any Russian woman you have interest in says to you she speaks 'a little English' YOU run with it!!!  Most the time a little English is all it takes. These women, and  ESPECIALLY  the serious ladies, are able to pick up on English so quickly.

Many Russian women who can speak a little, read a little English, will not respond to the ad written in all English because they think there English is not good enough.  And when these women read, "you need to be able to speak at least a little English" they are more inclined to reply.

[TigerPaws]

As many of you guys know most Russian women want to be a perfectionist, or close to it, with anything they do and speaking/reading English is no different.   So many Russian women underestimate there own ability to speak English.This is why I have always said that if any Russian woman you have interest in says to you she speaks 'a little English' YOU run with it!!!  Most the time a little English is all it takes. These women, and  ESPECIALLY  the serious ladies, are able to pick up on English so quickly.

Many Russian women who can speak a little, read a little English, will not respond to the ad written in all English because they think there English is not good enough.  And when these women read, "you need to be able to speak at least a little English" they are more inclined to reply.

Listen to what Jack has just said, he is RIGHT!

TigerPaws

[Rvrwind]

Very True Jack.We do put our ads in Russian unless the client requests otherwise but every issue I see 4 - 5 ads in English. What their response rate is I don't know. The funny part is that most of the English ads I read are from Euopeans!! :noidea: