Different perceptions of RW and UW

[Jazzyclassy]

        You know all that is true........       

come on  dear Wizushka I know it is true ... poor poor russian girls ))

but russian girls are HONEST:) nothing can take that away from them la la la la

[timothe]

How could I miss such a topic

my fav ahahah

Ukraine and Russian women are different

absolutely they are , to my mind

You can try and compare them but there is nothing to compare cos they are different


I got a live example the wife of my uncle who is ukrainian, she is not my native, it is my uncle who is the brother of my dad he lives in Rostov on Don ,so I feel absolutely not connected to her, and could never think of her as my relative, cos she was always competing with my amazing kind honest , hardworking mamita(mother)

she is very bossy and my uncle lost his oppinion at all , I do not know how he lives.....

it is so bad to judge people only by one person it is just since childhood I remember she was evil , crazy always envious and always wanted presents from Moscow

I am getting rid of the prejudice I know am wrong in judging them , but it is hard work to see them in the other light

and I advise foreign guys to go for Ukrainians go go go  for them , they meet your requirements much  more than Russian women:P

My ladyfriend lives in Rostov-on-Don.  Her father is Ukrainian and her mother is Cossack.  So does that mean my ladyfriend is a hard-working bossy person?   

(BTW Jazzy, it is a post exactly like this one that separates real Russian women from the fraudulent ones.)

[Wayne B]

Mir, I knew what you ment about gays/guys...I was jokeing with you    Now about the 65 year old....does this lend support, that there may be a higher ratio of women to men ???

[LEGAL]

Jazzy

Russian women are dull, expressionless faces, secretive, very jealous, ignorant of good manners, stubborn in the their ignorance, lacking social skills......and in general very insecure and not very pretty. Just plain Jane's.

Oh, yea...



Olga.

[ScottinCrimea]

Legal, How did you get ahold of my MIL's photo?

It appears from the statistics posted that when looking for an FSU woman, the older you are, the better your chances.  Wiz, you're one lucky man!

[Mir]

I wanted to do some checking into the actual numbers of male -ver- female in Ukraine and Russia from all of the posts and hype of this subject so here is what I found. 

Ukraine Population:
46,710,816 (July 2006 est.)

Age structure:
0-14 years: 14.1% (male 3,377,868/female 3,203,738)
15-64 years: 69.3% (male 15,559,998/female 16,831,486)
65 years and over: 16.6% (male 2,635,651/female 5,102,075) (2006 est.)

Median age:
total: 39.2 years
male: 35.9 years
female: 42.2 years (2006 est.)

Population growth rate:
-0.6% (2006 est.)

Birth rate:
8.82 births/1,000 population (2006 est.)

Death rate:
14.39 deaths/1,000 population (2006 est.)

Sex ratio:
at birth: 1.07 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.05 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 0.92 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.52 male(s)/female
total population: 0.86 male(s)/female (2006 est.)

Infant mortality rate:
total: 9.9 deaths/1,000 live births
male: 11.48 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 8.22 deaths/1,000 live births (2006 est.)

Life expectancy at birth:
total population: 69.98 years
male: 64.71 years
female: 75.59 years (2006 est.)

Total fertility rate:
1.17 children born/woman (2006 est.)
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Russian Population:
142,893,540 (July 2006 est.)

Age structure:
0-14 years: 14.2% (male 10,441,151/female 9,921,102)
15-64 years: 71.3% (male 49,271,698/female 52,679,463)
65 years and over: 14.4% (male 6,500,814/female 14,079,312) (2006 est.)

Median age:
total: 38.4 years
male: 35.2 years
female: 41.3 years (2006 est.)

Population growth rate:
-0.37% (2006 est.)

Birth rate:
9.95 births/1,000 population (2006 est.)

Death rate:
14.65 deaths/1,000 population (2006 est.)

Sex ratio:
at birth: 1.06 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.05 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 0.94 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.46 male(s)/female
total population: 0.86 male(s)/female (2006 est.)

Infant mortality rate:
total: 15.13 deaths/1,000 live births
male: 17.43 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 12.7 deaths/1,000 live births (2006 est.)

Life expectancy at birth:
total population: 67.08 years
male: 60.45 years
female: 74.1 years (2006 est.)

Total fertility rate:
1.28 children born/woman (2006 est.)

So as you see in younger age group the female to male ration is 1:1 or even 1.05 to 1 and in the over 65 group it is 2 or more women per male.

[Wayne B]

Legal, if she were Wiz's new girlfriend....I bet he would be singing a new tune  'Yes Dear, Yes my love'  

[Nat]

Well, of course it’s my own opinion and you can disagree it but I think that it’s useless to compare women from Ukraine, Russia, India, USA, Germany and so on. Women are women all over the world (and men are men ). Those who understand it will succeed in pursuing them. Those who don’t will always try to find a country, where women are better, more honest, less fat, more mature but less bossy and so on. Of course economy and politic influences mentality, it makes people compromise. Of course internet influences the essence of available candidates, because people who are not interested in relations won’t go to marriage or dating sites, so for both men and women available candidates are really candidates, not married and willing to build relations. Again it’s my personal opinion, I can be wrong

Mir, btw, the figures show that it is an excess of women BOTH in Ukraine and USA. And in Russia as well

[Mir]

Those who understand it will succeed in pursuing them

Understand women? You must be jokeing

My wife and I were happy for twenty years. Then we met.

(Rodney Dangerfield)


Yes women outnumber men everywhere, thats way those who say there are more women available for marrige in FSU don't make sense.
However it does look as the FSU women are more available to men from West and they do get the choice of a much younger partner then in their home country.

A man inserted an 'ad' in the classifieds: "Wife wanted". Next day he
received a hundred letters. They all said the same thing: "You can have
mine" Anonymous

[Nat]

Nat: Those who understand it will succeed in pursuing them
Mir: Understand women? You must be jokeing

Nasty you "It" reffers to the fact that women are the same all over the world (well, in general )

My wife and I were happy for twenty years. Then we met.
(Rodney Dangerfield)

Hehe, yeah 

Yes women outnumber men everywhere, thats way those who say there are more women available for marrige in FSU don't make sense.
However it does look as the FSU women are more available to men from West and they do get the choice of a much younger partner then in their home country.

Well, may be you're partly right... I can speak only for myself. I can say, that i'm single 25 years old girl, I have some part-time jobs, where I meet a lot of people in different banks, magazine publisher house, private school, and there are a lot of interesting men among them. But they are all married already. And it's not in my moral to start relations with married men. So that's why I'm studying the question of international dating and may be I'll try it some time.

[Gator]

I dated many UW and many RW.  I can not tell a difference.

In my opinion the variability within each population was great.  Some were animated, some were stoic; some were good lovers, some were not into it; some were argumentative, some were flexible; etc.,etc., etc.


It is obvious that my sample size is too small and I need to date many more from each population to enable a comparative analysis.  Any volunteers?

[XD40]

Nat, yes please forgive me. I should have included America into the stats  along with Ukraine and Russia. If anyone is interested on where I got this intel it is from this web site... http ://sportsforum.ws/sd/factbook/geos/us.html

[Mir]

So that's why I'm studying the question of international dating and may be I'll try it some time.

Well I hope you will inform me when you are ready to try it

[wiz]

Oh, yea...

Olga.

If that all you have to say?

Then your answer confirms my observations!

Jazzy

Honest... don't make me laugh....... They all have an agenda to hide!

[LEGAL]

Wiz,

The observations - analysis - conclusion is very interesting and sometimes an exciting occupation 
But it more interesting when you work on your own and independently 

Olga

[Mir]

Wiz

So as we can see you are unimpressed by both Russian and Ukrainian girls, then why the hell you keep chasing them?

[wiz]

Wiz,

The observations - analysis - conclusion is very interesting and sometimes an exciting occupation 
But it more interesting when you work on your own and independently 

Olga

These were my own observations after few years mixing with Ukrainian and Russian women.

I am still observing them...... and I see that you do not dispute any of my observations.

[wiz]

Wiz

So as we can see you are unimpressed by both Russian and Ukrainian girls, then why the hell you keep chasing them?

I am not impressed with English women also but that does not mean that I will stop looking.

Why don't you offer your personal views in that matter instead of questioning my actions?

[jb]

wiz,

I don't question your actions, only your observations.

I know litterally dozens of RWs and a more friendly and animated group you'd never meet outside Russia.  It is true that if Russians don't  know you or don't like you they may appear very standoff-ish,,, maybe it's not the Russians.

[Wayne B]

Well, of course it’s my own opinion and you can disagree it but I think that it’s useless to compare women from Ukraine, Russia, India, USA, Germany and so on. Women are women all over the world (and men are men ).  Natasha, women and men are different all over the world.....The degree of respect for a woman vs man...is far different from country to country

[Mir]

Wiz

Looking at English women is different as they are where you live.
For FSU you have to make a lot of effort.
You offer a dim openion about them and yet you take all the trouble to meet them, there must be a reason?
As for my view, I don't believe in generalizations, both countries will have all type of women and men who marry them may like them for different reasons.
Maybe some men don't like women who are mysterious and they like to find everything about them, maybe others are only interested as long as there is a mystery, everyone is different.
Yes as we have told Jazzy before, her perceptions of Ukrainians may be based on what she was told during her upbringing and confirmed by her personal bad experiences with Ukrainians. In the same way your views may be based on your experiences coupled with your frustration with FSU women (or one specific woman).
Although I always feel generalizations are wrong no one can stop you from giving your openion, so this brings us back to my question. Given the openion that you have, why do you keep chasing them?

[Nat]

Well I hope you will inform me when you are ready to try it

All I can say now is that pen pal option is available

Natasha, women and men are different all over the world.....The degree of respect for a woman vs man...is far different from country to country

I’m not Natasha. They are different, but the main features are the same As for respect... If to speak about countries with European culture (EU, Ukraine, Russia, and of course the USA and Australia), I think respect is the matter of upbringing, not location. If to take Eastern and African countries into consideration – then yes, you’re right of course

[Wayne B]

Ok Nat, President Victor Yushchenko.... do you think that he became ill from himself or from an outside source ???

[Mir]

Wayne B

I don't want to repeat the smart Texan to dumb Texan rant used by Jack on another thread but what are you talking about?

[Wayne B]

Mir, read jb's post above mine....you will read these words....I am just giving a reference to word's that help someone understand some of the word's that he/we use here