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Hey all.

I'm 35 years old and lives in Sweden.
I started out by becoming a member on anastasiaweb.com.
A workfriend of me thought i should join it because there was a lot of beautiful women and yada yada.

After corresponding with a few i decided to meet with one Olga From Odessa.
She seemed real and i thought her intentions was real.

She told me that it was better to rent and apartment other then a hotel room.
I agree to do so because i don't like hotels.
That was misstake  number 1.
I payed 80 USD/night for a shitty apartment that smelled mould.
After i got home i saw alot of cheaper and better standard apartments.

Misstake number 2.
Never show any emotions.
Since my intentions was real i was blind as a bat.
The only reason she ever wanted me to come down for was to shop and take her to places and pay for all of it.
I'm not gonna add the restaurant visits cause we all have to eat....

Anyway i ended up buying her a pair of shoes and she was glad and i even got invited to her home and we talked about she taking me to her parents and friends the next time i was in Odessa.

This is going great was my thinking, getting invited to her home,parents and friends.

Then was the day i was going home.
She was strange and seemed to be in stress.
When she we where in the taxi to the airport she suddenly told the driver something.
He stopped the car and she got out slammed the door and didn't even say goodbye.
When i looked out the back window she was standing with her cellphone and didn't even look after the car.

When i was home we talked via Yahoo and i didn't asked her anything why she did what she did.
But when she told me that it was better to be friends i got crazy.

One smashed headset and a 1200 USD less i have reason to belive that she had it all planed.
Invite a man and milk him for money.

I met a man from France that told me that he had seen that behavior from many girls in Odessa.
He had been out for it himself and told me the cold and hard truth.
Never ever open your heart to one if you are not 100% sure about her.

I'm not on anastasiaweb anymore, but still on rbrides where i email one girl in Rodakovo.
This time i am carful and i will not be fooled or tricked again.

Thats my story so far.
Martin

[viking]

Hi Martin

Welcome to the club. There is much to learn here and don't be too hard on yourself.Some guys have lost 10 times that much. It is a learning experience. But it sounds like you have learned from it and will be more careful in the future. The people here and the resources will point you to some better sites than Aweb.

[SANDRO43]

Welcome to RWD, Martin. The technical term for your Odessa woman is gold digger. Along with scammers, it's one of the well-known hazards of international dating, as well as dubious dating sites. Fortunately, you were not hit too badly (except possibly in your pride ). Read these fora and trip reports, and you may find others who had similar experiences .

[Bruno]

I met a man from France that told me that he had seen that behavior from many girls in Odessa.
He had been out for it himself and told me the cold and hard truth.

You and these French guy simply choice the wrong ladies... my lady is from Odessa... She have pay sometime the restaurent for us during the stay, never ask/wish expensive thing, almost kill me when i have send a few euro, have propose to help me financially last month because i have explain her that it was a difficult month financially ( move to new house and unplanned expense/bill )... She pay herself her internet, she pay herself her French lesson, she spare money for not be a charge for me once here... etc...

So, all the Odessa girls are not gold digger... simply choice the right one...

[Nando]

You and these French guy simply choice the wrong ladies... ... etc...

So, all the Odessa girls are not gold digger... simply choice the right one...

Giz, Bruno don't be so harsh!

Finding someone at the first trip is almost impossible. There are good girls in Odessa like in any other city in Ukraine, I think, but it is one of those towns where every foreigner goes including me

Many guys here will tell you to call the girl on the phone and try to talk with her several times before meeting. I have to agree with them. This is not a guarantee of sucess but at least you will know if she is interested because gold diggers usually don't like to talk 15 times on the phone with a guy before meeting.

I think trying to choose a good agency is not enough, you must try to find a "good apple"  with the right attitude (finding a guy and not a suggar daddy)

There seem to exist some 3 or 4 very honest and good agencies some of them the owners post here. The rest is to be treated carefully...and with suspicion.
Just learn with more experienced members, everyone makes mistakes

[Gator]

Martin Valkomnand!

Now you know what not to do.  There are many other things in the list of "What Not to Do", so stay around and learn from others' mistakes rather than your own mistakes.

Many other men have had problems with Anastasiaweb and/or with its women.  Read the archives and try to find a more reputable agency.

The woman you described is what we call a "Professional Dater" or "Good Time Girl", if we are using polite terms.  Many a man has fallen prey to their enticements. 

Based on tales of woe from other men who have had your experience, I imagine your Odessa woman is very beautiful, had provocative photos, wrote wonderful expressions about her good feelings for you, and wore sexy clothes when she met you.   At your age of 35, you are still hormonally impaired, so the inevitable happened.  Women all over Ukraine and Russia are skillful at separating men from their money without sleeping with them.

A "good girl" will not ask you for presents and gifts during the first meeting, although she will be delighted if you offer something at the conclusion of a delightful time together.  And it does not have to be expensive.

I think when you take your next trip, you should visit more than one woman.  You reside close enough so that you can make a return trip quickly.

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Thanx for the replys.

We did talk a lot and long calls on Yahoo so i relay thought she was sincere.

I do learn from my misstakes and will not ever again fall for the same trick, but i still have a big problem with how someone can so this and sleep well in the nights?????
And she complained about her sister that she had told her something about making up her mind and get a life.

I have told the other girls i write letters to what happend in Odessa and if i get over and met them and they show the same side i will walk away.
If they name the word "shopping", I'm off.
They seem to understand and know me better after.
I am always open and honest in all my letters.
For me to writhe something else other then the truth is nothing i will never do.

It's feels good to have found this site and know that we a re here to help and serve.....

Oh and Gator........
It's Välkommen not Valkomnand.   

[Kuna]

Thanx for the replys.

We did talk a lot and long calls on Yahoo so i relay thought she was sincere.

I do learn from my misstakes and will not ever again fall for the same trick, but i still have a big problem with how someone can so this and sleep well in the nights?????
And she complained about her sister that she had told her something about making up her mind and get a life.

I have told the other girls i write letters to what happend in Odessa and if i get over and met them and they show the same side i will walk away.
If they name the word "shopping", I'm off.
They seem to understand and know me better after.
I am always open and honest in all my letters.
For me to writhe something else other then the truth is nothing i will never do.

It's feels good to have found this site and know that we a re here to help and serve.....

Oh and Gator........
It's Välkommen not Valkomnand.   

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May I suggest that every experience you have with girls you meet in FSU are good learning experiences.  I wouldn't run as soon as you get close to a shopping centre... it's a great opportunity to learn something about your girl.

Let me give you and example.  When I met my girl and then she returned to Kiev for my last weekend in Ukraine I knew it was her birthday a few days after I flew out.  On the Saturday morning I woke up early to go out and buy some groceries for a special breakfast.  After we'd eaten and went for a walk I stopped down on Kreshatyk to tell her what the plan was for the day.

I said we were going birthday present shopping, told her what the budget was and said that my job for the day was to be patient, help where needed and carry the shopping bags.  She was very excited.  (Remember.. I set a BUDGET up front).

Well, off we went and I saw a girl who was extremely prudent as she was looking for clothes. I learned a lot about her tastes and how practical she was.  She didn't want flashy evening wear or frivolous shoes... she wanted jeans for her trip to Moscow and some work clothes.

We walked.. and walked.. and walked...  and she searched... looked at the stitching... checked the buttons and zips... felt the fabric... and asked my opinions.  She would try on hats and pull funny faces and pick out horrible clothes and strut around like a fashion model.  We laughed so much.

At one point she found a beautiful dress and I could tell from her face that she adored it...  When she looked at the price tag it was USD$60 above her budget so without any fuss she put it back saying she didn't like it. I looked at the price tag and told her that it was outside of the budget but it was OK, she could get it if she wanted.

She wouldn't buy it... she started walking away while I was appealing to her to buy it (because she obviously loved it). Finally I gave up and we left the shop and after a while she told me that it was too expensive and she would rather buy a few "good" pieces than one beautiful piece... "It's more sense."

We had a GREAT day and I could see she was a very practical girl.  She wasn't spending money unless she saw value and she was always polite even when she was angered by bad service or unhelpful staff.

That night I had planned to take her to a fish restaurant that I heard was very nice (and very expensive) but after discussing it with her she said she would prefer to eat her favourite foods at home in the apartment.  We went out and bought bread, butter, red caviar, smoked fish and wine and had a wonderful night at home talking and laughing and talking about the future.

I think the key when you go shopping with a girl (whether at home or in FSU) is to not feel obliged to spend more money than is reasonable.  If you find a girl that just wants to spend up big you can expect her to spend up big when she moves to your home.  That's not sustainable for most people.

In everything you do with girls you meet in FSU keep your eyes and ears open and learn as much as you can from what they do... not from what they say.

Welcome to RWD and good luck in your search.

Kuna

[SANDRO43]

At your age of 35, you are still hormonally impaired

Gator, does that imply that we 35+ are hormonally despaired ?

[groovlstk]

I do learn from my misstakes and will not ever again fall for the same trick, but i still have a big problem with how someone can so this and sleep well in the nights?????

Unfortunately there are many FSU girls out there who will sleep just fine - if not with you - after fleecing you for a pair of designer boots, jeans, coat, dinner, vacation, etc. The upside to your brutal lesson is that if you can accept these rules and look out for #1, you can do well next time around.

[Gator]

Sandro,

I think the age cutoff is 50s to 60s.  Never give up hope, there is always Vitamin V.

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Sorry about my Swedish.  That was from a long, long time ago when I spent some time in Stockholm (lovely city when the sun shines).

A few words of advice.  Never, never, never mention other women to a RW.  A true-blooded RW does not want to hear about them, and they do not dwell in the past.  I think you misfortunate experience is something you should keep to yourself while you try to cast a positive light.  With experience, you can get a reasonable assessment of a RW's sincerity in more obtuse ways.

[BillyB]

I'm not on anastasiaweb anymore, but still on rbrides where i email one girl in Rodakovo.
This time i am carful and i will not be fooled or tricked again.

Good thing you're not on Aweb anymore but you have been tricked/fooled again using rbides. That place is scam city. Known scammers everywhere. They do erase profiles after enough complaints. Save all your e-mail from rbides that show new profiles. Two weeks later, open the same mail and check out those same women. Around 20% of the profiles are deleted due to them being scammers.

Read more here and you shall save a buck or a few thousand. Also type in agency name and the word "scam" in Google to find potential bad about an agency.

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Thanks for all the advice guys.
I will think and do as you say.

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Sandro,

I think the age cutoff is 50s to 60s.  Never give up hope, there is always Vitamin V.

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Sorry about my Swedish.  That was from a long, long time ago when I spent some time in Stockholm (lovely city when the sun shines).

A few words of advice.  Never, never, never mention other women to a RW.  A true-blooded RW does not want to hear about them, and they do not dwell in the past.  I think you misfortunate experience is something you should keep to yourself while you try to cast a positive light.  With experience, you can get a reasonable assessment of a RW's sincerity in more obtuse ways.

Yeah i can imagine my self to meet a woman that dwell in the past.
I am just that honest to tell what i am and what i have done.
I have no secrets at all to hide.
The questions i have received from these women after telling them what happend is something very serious and i think private to them.
Thats why i am open in my own misstake and will learn all i can from you guys.
Me and a friend will go down to Kiev in June and one of the ladies i have talked to now lives there.
My friend will stay only for a weekend but i will stay for 10 days and i will meet this lady and this time i wont make the same misstake by opening any feelings until i see some from her.


I will add some of you on my msn.
If you see marre@lostzero.org added you it's me......

[Muj]

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Many nice women in Odessa too, sorry for your misfortune.  I will add, be yourself on your meetings but avoid buying the affections of the woman.  Welcome to the board.