Six and a half years and still going strong!

[GregfromGa]

Igor dont worry about this guy. He's a lost cause and a headcase all rolled up in one. At least Igor isnt here slamming the process and he's certainly not here talking smack about members wives.

 Igor,you can try and debate this clown until the cows come home and it would be less painful to just stick a #2 pencil in your eye and leave it for a few days.

  Kuna, please show me in this thread where I said Kuna is saying a members wife is not model material or whatever. There were certainly members here who did but not once did I say it was you.  I said you were a clown,lost cause and a headcase. I know you didnt call out the guy or his wife. I never not once said you did.

As far as wrestling goes I guess I was like many other 10 and 11 year old kids back in the day. I enjoyed the entertainment back then and sure enough I outgrew the fascination. I worked hard enough to become my highschool wrestling team captain somewhere after that.

[Stirlitz]

Igor,
If you can accept an observers point of view, you are the only member here that constantly criticizes this forum and it's moderation.  The last guy that had a hair up his azz about such things was Jinx (if that gives you a hint) who is no longer here.  I get the sense that you don't like Dan, RWD or how RWD is moderated.  You either openly b!tch about it or make some vieled comment about it in your posts,  If that is true, then why are you here?  To keep your name in front of potential clients?

I know that it is dangerous to criticize this forum openly. I know what happened to Jinx, Manchester and others who did not agree with… But what surprises me how some people here like to generalize and make unsubstantiated claims. Now catzenmouse says that I never let it go, now you say that I alwas criticize. And, this stupid rant about me looking for clients and being greedy or something. Come on! If I were here for public relations purposes fishing for clients, I would be a sugar daddy doing my best to look good to everybody, trying to please every jerk out there and hiding my views. Read what dating agencies write in their FAQs for an example. They write what men want to hear, not what is actually going on there. I would post at any thread just for the sake of being seen there.

Why am I here? And why are you?

[ScottinCrimea]

Stirlitz, it kind of reminds me of the old saying, "if one person says you have a tail, you can ignore them.  If six people say it, you better turn around and take a look."

[KenC]

I know that it is dangerous to criticize this forum openly. I know what happened to Jinx, Manchester and others who did not agree with… But what surprises me how some people here like to generalize and make unsubstantiated claims. Now catzenmouse says that I never let it go, now you say that I alwas criticize. And, this stupid rant about me looking for clients and being greedy or something. Come on! If I were here for public relations purposes fishing for clients, I would be a sugar daddy doing my best to look good to everybody, trying to please every jerk out there and hiding my views. Read what dating agencies write in their FAQs for an example. They write what men want to hear, not what is actually going on there. I would post at any thread just for the sake of being seen there.

Why am I here? And why are you?

Igor,
Stupid rant?  I thought I handled what I had to say rather delicately.  What I wouldn't do is participate in a forum that I didn't respect (as you seem to do).  I am here because I like it here.  I like most of the members, I respect Dan, I respect that this is the best forum on the Net and I think I have some things to offer to other members.
KenC

[Kuna]

  Kuna, please show me in this thread where I said Kuna is saying a members wife is not model material or whatever. There were certainly members here who did but not once did I say it was you.  I said you were a clown,lost cause and a headcase. I know you didnt call out the guy or his wife. I never not once said you did.

As far as wrestling goes I guess I was like many other 10 and 11 year old kids back in the day. I enjoyed the entertainment back then and sure enough I outgrew the fascination. I worked hard enough to become my highschool wrestling team captain somewhere after that.

Greg,

It may be your poor command of English but the post I took offense to was this one...

Igor dont worry about this guy. He's a lost cause and a headcase all rolled up in one. At least Igor isnt here slamming the process and he's certainly not here talking smack about members wives.

 Igor,you can try and debate this clown until the cows come home and it would be less painful to just stick a #2 pencil in your eye and leave it for a few days.

You use personal insults as bookends to the comment "he's certainly not here talking smack about members wives" thus inferring I was talking smack about other peoples wives.  That's a distortion... something you seem to do quite often!

Your comments about my "unsuccessful trip" are other examples... or maybe that's more of you acting like an a$$ because too dim-witted to read posts before shooting off at the mouth.

Words are powerful things and if you can't use them carefully you should stick your hands in your pockets and stop posting.

The name calling doesn't bother me... If you don't like me I'm satisfied I'm on the right track, but to accuse me of something or to infer I did something when it's clearly a lie will always be rebutted.

I'll wait patiently for your apology.

Kuna

[GregfromGa]

If you're waiting on me Kuna then I suggest you find something more constructive to do with your time like maybe writing or calling your Ukrainian wife to be. I said your trip was unsuccessful because you bitched and moaned about Pavel's level of service a heck of a lot more than you raved about how successful your trip was. Like I've said before I wish everyone well and I hope that everyone will be as happy and lucky as I am. That includes you as well Kuna so now can you just STFU.

[Stirlitz]

Igor,
Stupid rant?  I thought I handled what I had to say rather delicately.  What I wouldn't do is participate in a forum that I didn't respect (as you seem to do).  I am here because I like it here.  I like most of the members, I respect Dan, I respect that this is the best forum on the Net and I think I have some things to offer to other members.

Yes, stupid rant. Sorry for being abrupt, but I am a bit sick and tired of it. Call it wise and intelligent if you like. But it takes one jerk to say something stupid and then everybody repeats it without even thinking if it makes sense here, and at all.

But you are right about participation in the board. Up until today I had mixed feelings, now I am more certain. After even the members of the board that I respected start acting like some of the not-so-respected, I can say I don’t like it here. The name calling, labeling, baseless allegations, personal attacks and flaming are certainly not what I like — as this is what this forum seems to be mostly about recently. There are better ways to practice my English rather than being here.

DonAz was wrong when he urged me to rejoin RWD. It’s a waste of time.

[William3rd]

Then perhaps your time might be spent somewhere else, n'est-ce pas? I am sure that you will be missed. . . . . . .

[Admin]

I know that it is dangerous to criticize this forum openly. I know what happened to Jinx, Manchester and others who did not agree with… But what surprises me how some people here like to generalize and make unsubstantiated claims. Now catzenmouse says that I never let it go, now you say that I alwas criticize. And, this stupid rant about me looking for clients and being greedy or something. Come on! If I were here for public relations purposes fishing for clients, I would be a sugar daddy doing my best to look good to everybody, trying to please every jerk out there and hiding my views. Read what dating agencies write in their FAQs for an example. They write what men want to hear, not what is actually going on there. I would post at any thread just for the sake of being seen there.

Why am I here? And why are you?

Igor,

This is EXACTLY the sort of misinformation which evokes a reaction - and I think you are smart enough that you are doing it deliberately.

The situations with the two members you referenced is that they clearly and unequivocally violated the Terms of Service - on multiple occasions. Anyone who knows the FACTS, also knows that I acted with patience and tolerance and the sincere hope they would be productive and contributing members of RWD - just as I continue to hope you will.

However, in both instances you cited, there were violations which compelled a response. I do not take banishing lightly - and there are VERY few who have been banned from RWD. The fact that you make the unfounded allegation of "dangerous to criticize" and other such nonsense, merely points out that you do not pay attention. There is plenty of open criticism here - of me, of RWD, of the Mods, of just about everything at one time or another - and so long as it is offered in the spirit of making things better and being a responsible member of the community - there is NEVER any bad reaction to it.

I am with you on several points. I don't like name-calling, flaming, baseless allegations, labeling, or personal attacks. So how about if you help to set the tone by insuring you do not engage in any of that? The Mods and I will do our best to make sure others similarly refrain - within the bounds of being a largely self-moderated board where men and women speak plainly and honestly to one another.

- Dan

[Admin]

If you're waiting on me Kuna then I suggest you find something more constructive to do with your time like maybe writing or calling your Ukrainian wife to be. I said your trip was unsuccessful because you bitched and moaned about Pavel's level of service a heck of a lot more than you raved about how successful your trip was. Like I've said before I wish everyone well and I hope that everyone will be as happy and lucky as I am. That includes you as well Kuna so now can you just STFU.

Sounds like Kuna had best not wait for any apology - and seems like Greg does not want to be prodded for one. Also seems like we need to remember to interact with civility and respect - which means not using any form of vulgarity or profanity - even in acronym form.

OK? Let's let it go guys. It isn't heading anywhere.

- Dan

[KenC]

Yes, stupid rant. Sorry for being abrupt, but I am a bit sick and tired of it. Call it wise and intelligent if you like. But it takes one jerk to say something stupid and then everybody repeats it without even thinking if it makes sense here, and at all.

But you are right about participation in the board. Up until today I had mixed feelings, now I am more certain. After even the members of the board that I respected start acting like some of the not-so-respected, I can say I don’t like it here. The name calling, labeling, baseless allegations, personal attacks and flaming are certainly not what I like — as this is what this forum seems to be mostly about recently. There are better ways to practice my English rather than being here.

DonAz was wrong when he urged me to rejoin RWD. It’s a waste of time.

Igor,
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!  I point out an observation in a kind way, and you call it a "stupid rant" call me a jerk and then go on about flaming and personal attacks.  You only need to look into the nearest mirror to see the person who takes such tactics.  I don't know why you have to act like such a victim all the time and cannot just communicate.
KenC

[jb]

KenC,

Don't you understand???  It's Igor's rice bowl that must be protected, and at all costs, keep it's image shiny.   People like Igor need, and feed, from the wallets of men on these forums.  It's how he creates his client base.  If he isn't seen as a superman in Ukraine he goes hungry.   Simple economics, my friend.

[Daveman]

Wouldn't bother me a bit actually. I prefer the truth to a sugar coated lie.
In that refrain I offer the following:
A very loud, unattractive, mean woman walked into Wal-Mart with her two kids, yelling obscenities at them all the way through the entrance.The Wal-Mart Greeter says "Good morning, and welcome to Wal-Mart.
Nice children you have there. Are they twins?"
The ugly woman stopped yelling long enough to say, "Hell no they ain't.The oldest one's 9 and the other one's 6. Why the hell would you think they're twins? Are you blind, or just stupid?" "
I'm neither blind nor stupid", replied the Greeter. "I just couldn't believe you got laid twice!"
As for this:I don't have time to dig it up right now as I have to leave for work in Moscow & its a two & half hour train ride. It just seemed to me that in this thread you wee condoning one thing & then in another thread you were attacking that very thing.
Maybe I'm wrong but thats the way I read it.
Your right it is only a virtual situation being what it is, but I still maintain the same standards here that I do in my daily life. I may never meet more than a few of the people on this board but to me they are still people & virtual or not will get the same treatment here as if they were standing right in front of me. I unlike others don't treat this as a separate entity & take license to pretend things that are not or lead people on. (Not saying you do either, but some do) For me this is a further extention of my life & these people including you, are my friends & aquaintances, even though we may never meet. In that regard I treat people here & talk to them the same way I would if we were sitting in my liing room!
And don't go telin' me to get a life,  , I have one, albiet very topsy turvy sometimes, none the less I do have one. I just look at the internet & this board or any board I participate on a little differntly than some people I rekon. Maybe I'm just crazy, who's to say!!!

That's it Rvrwind...  I challenge you to a showdown in the fog because we're both probably ugly!   :-))  No problem here man. At all.  Maybe you took my post the wrong way... maybe I POSTED it the wrong way.  In the grand scheme of things it's just a drop in a bucket and doesn't make one I-oda  (I have no idea how to spell that word, and I was raised in the south where it was used a thousand times a day!) of a difference.  At any rate, I'm glad we had the exchange because it gave me a better picture of who you are. 

You're welcome at my campfire anytime, Cowboy.

Dave

p.s.  I thought I've heard about every joke in the world, but that one I haven't and I nearly spit my coffee all over the keyboard.  Hiliarious!  It's a keeper.

[jb]

I-oda = iota

From Dictionary.com

3 results for: iota


1.   a very small quantity; jot; whit.
2.   the ninth letter of the Greek alphabet (I, ι).
3.   the vowel sound represented by this letter.

[Kuna]

Princess Greg says:

If you're waiting on me Kuna then I suggest you find something more constructive to do with your time like maybe writing or calling your Ukrainian wife to be. I said your trip was unsuccessful because you bitched and moaned about Pavel's level of service a heck of a lot more than you raved about how successful your trip was. Like I've said before I wish everyone well and I hope that everyone will be as happy and lucky as I am. That includes you as well Kuna so now can you just STFU.

The only unsuccessful thing about my trip was the trival scams I got trapped with.  One success was saving over $1000 by not accepting the advice I was given by your "friend".  I remain unrepentant about my decision to warn other newbies NOT to trust these people even if it caused you to get your knickers in a knot.

By the way... I'd rather you not name the guide in question because his responses were very reasonable.  I think the intent of the original thread has been well and truly served.  By naming in him you'll potentially damage his business.  Isn't that why you were attacking me originally - to protect his business?

I just hope others that use guides, ANY GUIDES, will remember that they may not always be working in your best interests. TRUST NO ONE UNTIL THEY EARN IT!

By the way... as for how much I bitched and moaned about getting ripped off "your friend"...  the Guide Thread was 14 pages.. mostly inane defenses by those who wanted to justify dishonest behaviour and scamming... 

My Trip report was 19 pages... but you lacked the attention span to read it before attacking me.

Greg, your only trip report in here was 1 paragraph.  Nice contribution dude... You're a very insightful guy!  Your vast experience shines through!

Sounds like Kuna had best not wait for any apology - and seems like Greg does not want to be prodded for one. Also seems like we need to remember to interact with civility and respect - which means not using any form of vulgarity or profanity - even in acronym form.

OK? Let's let it go guys. It isn't heading anywhere.

- Dan

Dan,

I think any future interaction with this galah is best handled in Anything Goes.  He never justifies his lies and personal attacks and it's about time he acts like the man he claims to be.

Greg,

I hope you act with more integrity when you're interacting with your wife and loved ones otherwise you might actually be one of "those" that cause great grief to other men that seek a FSUW.

You've do no one any favours when you let your personal agenda distort reality.  Grow up dude...  it's not a school yard!

Kuna

[Admin]

Dan,

I think any future interaction with this galah is best handled in Anything Goes.  He never justifies his lies and personal attacks and it's about time he acts like the man he claims to be.

Greg,

I hope you act with more integrity when you're interacting with your wife and loved ones otherwise you might actually be one of "those" that cause great grief to other men that seek a FSUW.

You've do no one any favours when you let your personal agenda distort reality.  Grow up dude...  it's not a school yard!

Kuna

Yeah - anything further, and you guys can have at it down in the NHB section.

Closing the topic.

- Dan