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Re: Hello Mirror
« Reply #75 on: April 25, 2007, 09:57:39 AM »
...no, no, it is not only because of my poor English. Bruno tried to show his unrespect to homeopathy and personaly to me. I am able to understand that. He has shown his attitude.

"poor English"... you are lucky that my English is more poor that yours... never learn it at school or other place... from film, from test and trial in other country and from internet/computer... If my English was better, i have certainly hit more hardly with my post  :cluebat:

"unrespect to homeopathy"... not unrespect but i cannot respect something who have no scientific base, no clinical test who proof that it work, etc... homeopathy is the best method for sell water/sugar/alchohol at a very high price...

"unrespect personaly to you"... yes... why? Very simple... You are a doctor but cannot explain something in scientific way... you say that you are not a scientist but you are doctor, you believe in supernatural power, in material transmutation via prayer ( better that alchimie ), and other theorie without any valid base like the "memory of water"... If my doctor was like you,i run... run very fast...

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But I have a official license for practice and I don't think this illegal "doctor" was right. In Russia only practical doctors can use this method and of course a health and a life of patient is the most important.

You have from these illegal doctor everywhere... they have a lot of diploma make with the photoshop help... and same if they have a real diploma, it don't make a theory right... People who write horoscope can follow some formation and have a diploma... but it never mean that horoscope are something true... they learn a method... but the base is not related to science or something who can be proved...

So, i have nothing againt homeopathie... it can have some utility... like for lower the stress level ( explain previously ) or for people who feel always ill but who are not really ill ( "malade imaginaire" )... one thing is proved with homeopathy, it is not dangerous... i mean, the medicament are not dangerous... the concept can be... some people believe so strong in Homeopathy that they refuse usual medecine... can be deadly in some case... a honest homeopathic doctor will explain was is proved, what is possible, the possible side effect, etc... and not begin with magic, supernatural, science-fiction theory based on wind, ... maybe voodoo have more credibility that your explanation here...

And what piss me off... you never reply clearly to question... but almost always reply with a other question !

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Re: Hello Mirror
« Reply #76 on: April 25, 2007, 11:29:39 AM »
 ..... Talking about the differences in Russian women and Ukrainian women is of interest to me because I have been to both countries and met both national women........ 

I grew up in Ukraine.
Well, back then it was still Soviet Union and Ukraine was one of the republics. I lived in a big city and we had only a couple ukrainian schools. I mean there were only a few schools where all the subjects were taught in ukrainian language.
Russia was always a "big sister" among other republics "sisters".
So russian language was dominating.
Things changed when Ukraine got independent.
Well, I'm getting kinda distracted here. The question was about Russian women compared to Ukrainian women.
What can I say?  8)
It's really about people, not about nationality.
I think women from Ukraine are more "neat freaks" (spotless houses), they can cook really good (well most of them) and they are very conservative, strong characters and just awesome.  ;)
I am sure there are also great russian women out there.
Don't want to offend anyone.  :)

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Re: Hello Mirror
« Reply #77 on: April 26, 2007, 08:56:14 PM »
Bruno,


"poor English"... you are lucky that my English is more poor that yours... never learn it at school or other place... from film, from test and trial in other country and from internet/computer... If my English was better, i have certainly hit more hardly with my post  :cluebat: 


Your enlgish is very good to me. But it is subjective point of view, because I am not fluent and maybe I am not able to see some grammar mistakes.I can understand you very well.I  learned my english independently too like you did.



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"unrespect to homeopathy"... not unrespect but i cannot respect something who have no scientific base, no clinical test who proof that it work, etc... homeopathy is the best method for sell water/sugar/alchohol at a very high price...


I see you  don't respect this method only because no scientific base still.But you really want to know why then this method is alive still and why too many people use these medicines. Do you think it is only because all this people who use this medicines are silly?  And homeopathical medicines in Russia are very cheap-the  cheapest than all other medicines.

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"unrespect personaly to you"... yes... why? Very simple... You are a doctor but cannot explain something in scientific way... you say that you are not a scientist but you are doctor, you believe in supernatural power, in material transmutation via prayer ( better that alchimie ), and other theorie without any valid base like the "memory of water"... If my doctor was like you,i run... run very fast...

All patients ask many questions about homeopathy...not only you. Our first meeting with patients is always the conversation about this method don't worry about that. Maybe you want to protect all stupid people from homeopathical doctors ...but don't worry all people are able to decide which way to go.
We have many disputes between homeopathical doctors also... but it is only between us - not for you,sorry.
And many things in the nature can be incomprehensible today but tommorow maybe...In present time a science has not a medicine from a cancer sickness  but we look to the future and maybe tomorrow we can overcome this problem. Yes, of course I wish this method will be more clear and more understanding.


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You have from these illegal doctor everywhere... they have a lot of diploma make with the photoshop help... and same if they have a real diploma, it don't make a theory right... People who write horoscope can follow some formation and have a diploma... but it never mean that horoscope are something true... they learn a method... but the base is not related to science or something who can be proved...

So, i have nothing againt homeopathie... it can have some utility... like for lower the stress level ( explain previously ) or for people who feel always ill but who are not really ill ( "malade imaginaire" )... one thing is proved with homeopathy, it is not dangerous... i mean, the medicament are not dangerous... the concept can be... some people believe so strong in Homeopathy that they refuse usual medecine... can be deadly in some case... a honest homeopathic doctor will explain was is proved, what is possible, the possible side effect, etc... and not begin with magic, supernatural, science-fiction theory based on wind, ... maybe voodoo have more credibility that your explanation here...

OHH!!! Voodoo! You can assume something very megical! Then you are not hopeless at all!

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And what piss me off... you never reply clearly to question... but almost always reply with a other question !

I appologize for that.Yes, I have this habbit. :)

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Re: Hello Mirror
« Reply #78 on: April 26, 2007, 09:05:13 PM »
I grew up in Ukraine.
Well, back then it was still Soviet Union and Ukraine was one of the republics. I lived in a big city and we had only a couple ukrainian schools. I mean there were only a few schools where all the subjects were taught in ukrainian language.
Russia was always a "big sister" among other republics "sisters".
So russian language was dominating.
Things changed when Ukraine got independent.
Well, I'm getting kinda distracted here. The question was about Russian women compared to Ukrainian women.
What can I say?  8)
It's really about people, not about nationality.
I think women from Ukraine are more "neat freaks" (spotless houses), they can cook really good (well most of them) and they are very conservative, strong characters and just awesome.  ;)
I am sure there are also great russian women out there.
Don't want to offend anyone.  :)


Olena,

I liked your answer.May I ask you? What do Ukrainian women think about Russian women in present time? I mean after our separation. 

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Re: Hello Mirror
« Reply #79 on: April 27, 2007, 12:00:04 AM »
To be honest with you I don't know what they think.
I left Ukraine 11 years ago.

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Re: Hello Mirror
« Reply #80 on: April 27, 2007, 01:35:05 AM »
To be honest with you I don't know what they think.
I left Ukraine 11 years ago.


Ok, no problem.Did you live abroad all 11 years?

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Re: Hello Mirror
« Reply #81 on: April 27, 2007, 08:02:44 AM »
Your enlgish is very good to me. But it is subjective point of view, because I am not fluent and maybe I am not able to see some grammar mistakes.I can understand you very well.I  learned my english independently too like you did.

Thank you... about grammar, i apply a simple rule... i use French grammar... For Dutch, i was almost obligate to learn some grammar... they put the "verb" at the end of sentence, sometime cut it in two and add one piece between... About understanding, i can explain it simply : myself, i have more easy to understand a foreign where English is not the mother language that a real English speaking personn... maybe because we make the same mistake... but i cannot understand other French people speaking English, the accent is so horrible and it is like they have a hot stone in the mounth...

All my know language was learn "independently"... all the forget language was learn in school ( by example, modern greek )... some people can learn language in book, i need to use it for learn... the few word of Russian i know was teach to me by a little girl of 5 year old... not yet forget them after so much years  ;D

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I see you  don't respect this method only because no scientific base still.But you really want to know why then this method is alive still and why too many people use these medicines. Do you think it is only because all this people who use this medicines are silly?

Sofia, the methode have some scientific base... not related to the chimical working but to the psychologic effect... A lot of modern doctor forget about the mind and his power... remember, i have speak about clown in clinic... but clinic test have show that laugh and good mood help to heal...

Why so many people use it... because it is not bad, no counter indication like on several usual medical drugs... the placenbo effect can help to have a normal hormone level ( the brain one, not the sexual one ) and lead to a more fast healing... Homeopathie can make wonder when associate with usual medecine... but alone, it don't heal...

Since my expertise is more about plant... several people take plant too... usually, in a preventive way... but for healing process, a lot of plant have no effect... and these who have a effect are really dangerous with a lot of side effect who can be deadly in the long term...

At a other extreme, a lot of people read and believe horoscope ( Zodiac )... do you think that because several believe in it, it is true ?

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And homeopathical medicines in Russia are very cheap-the  cheapest than all other medicines.

Yes, i was forget the typical Russian way... a lot of homeopathic product are based on alcohol... since Vodka is cheap in Russia and men like Vodka, it will explain the low prize and the success...

Dialogue :
- Woman : Again, you have drink to much today !
- Man : Not true, i follow my homeophatic therapie... i am obligate by my doctor...

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All patients ask many questions about homeopathy...not only you. Our first meeting with patients is always the conversation about this method don't worry about that. Maybe you want to protect all stupid people from homeopathical doctors ...but don't worry all people are able to decide which way to go.

No, all people are not able to decide wich way to go... by personal experience, with the ex russian wife, i know that some are ready to follow blindly charlatan and risk the life of her own daughter... so people never ask question to doctor... they jump from one doctor to the other until they find the one who agree with them...

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We have many disputes between homeopathical doctors also... but it is only between us - not for you,sorry.

Why ? Is it a secret secte... I don't know for US but i think that it is similar to here in Belgium... Customer ( the ill people ) ask to doctor the "why", the "how", the potential problem of any therapy... I will never blindly believe a doctor because of his diploma... Hey, it is my life, i have the right to be informed...

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And many things in the nature can be incomprehensible today but tommorow maybe...In present time a science has not a medicine from a cancer sickness  but we look to the future and maybe tomorrow we can overcome this problem. Yes, of course I wish this method will be more clear and more understanding.

Cancer... Hmmmm, again my plant reference... one plant very common in our wood... root need to be used... Berberis vulgaris... clinical test ( in vitro ) show that these plant is a potent macrophage activator for inducing cytostatic activity against tumor cells... unfortunaly, these plant have around 8 alcoloide, who are illegal drugs... and side effect are big...

But since homeopathy have no method for cancer ( plant medecine have some but they are to much dangerous, conventional medecine have success research for some type of cancer but since the long way to the commercialisation of a drug ( almost 10 year ), we will see it when we will be old ), let see a other one... a test for you :

For what is used in homeopathie the following mix ? :
acet-ac, adren, alf, all-s, alumn, am-c, aml-n, ant-t, arg-m, arg-n, arn, ars, ars-br, ars-i, aur, aur-m, bar-c, bell, benz-ac, BOV, bry, calc, calc-p, CARC, cean, cham, chel, chim, chin, chion, coca, cod, coff, colch, con, crot-h, cupr, cupr-ar, cur, elaps, eup-pur, ferr-m, fl-ac, glon, glyc, hell, HELON, hep, iod, iris, kali-br, kali-chl, kali-p, kreos, lac-d, lach, lec, lith, LYC, lycps, lyss, mag-s, med, mosch, morph, mur-ac, murx, nat-m, nat-p, nat-s, nit-ac, nux-v, op, petr, PH-AC, phase, PHOS, pic-ac, PLB, podo, rat, rhus-a, sal-ac, sec, sep, sil, equil, sulph, sul-ac, tarax, TARENT, TER, thuj, thyr, tub, URAN-N, urea, vanad, zinc, ziz

Yes, i test you ! And it is a question i hope have a reply !

If you don't find, i advice you to take :
aur, bell, carc, dig, hyos, IGN, nat-m
These mix is recommended for "depression from disappointed love", can be perfect in your own case... Yes, i am a simple gardener... i have for hobby the medical plant, but i have learn ( not officialy ) about other medecine ( like homeopathie ) , magic use, etc... sometime really related to the chimical working and sometime only superstition...

If you wish, i can send you a "mirror"  ::) from the site natmedpro ... natural medecine professional... it is related to several alternative medicine and the modern medicine.. herborist, homeophatie, test clinic, chimical... of if you wish, i can upload it for a short time on my server... it is only 4.5 mb...

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OHH!!! Voodoo! You can assume something very megical! Then you are not hopeless at all!

Voodoo is a religion... what you see in film related to zombie, doll, etc are a American variation... if you really wish to know about voodoo, make a trip to Benin, where it is the official religion... nothing to make with magical but all to make with believe and God... Never believe film from Holywood to be the truth... Superman don't really exist !

Sofia, i don't wish you to say that homeopathie is sh!t... that you are a idiot... but reconize that it have his limit... that it can help but don't heal really... propaganda like you make can lead some people to believe in your therapy and remounce to the real medicine... so, you can be responsible for the death of some... Is it what you wish ? I hate alternative Doctor who think that they are God and they are able to heal everything ! These alternative medicine have exist from century, but only modern medicine have save a lot of life in the recent decennia... Some critic our US friend for a cold medicine based on fact but the reality is that it have save a lot of live, it have prolong the life expectency of people... Yes, US doctor are cold but they safe live... except in a few speciality, everybody go to US when the rest don't work... in health, what count is the result, not the believe !

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Re: Hello Mirror
« Reply #82 on: April 27, 2007, 08:02:39 PM »
Thank you... about grammar, i apply a simple rule... i use French grammar... For Dutch, i was almost obligate to learn some grammar... they put the "verb" at the end of sentence, sometime cut it in two and add one piece between... About understanding, i can explain it simply : myself, i have more easy to understand a foreign where English is not the mother language that a real English speaking personn... maybe because we make the same mistake... but i cannot understand other French people speaking English, the accent is so horrible and it is like they have a hot stone in the mounth...
All my know language was learn "independently"... all the forget language was learn in school ( by example, modern greek )... some people can learn language in book, i need to use it for learn... the few word of Russian i know was teach to me by a little girl of 5 year old... not yet forget them after so much years  ;D


I can see your english writing and I find that very well. About your speaking ...I hope you have more chance to learn actual english speaking in your country ( and it is lovely) that I have in Russia. I been only two time abroad and  I tried to understand english by talking.And I can say first time ( Aug 2006) I had not any chance to understand english people. Second time was a little succesfull  :)

A little russian girl gave you an excellent first impression and I am glad to read that.Russian language is extremaly hard to learn.I think it is not necessary to study at all. 

I was learning German language in school but know I can not remember anything despite of I was excellent student- no practice long period  and no chance to remember now. But of course I'd like to know two these languages but I am not sure I have a chance.


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Sofia, the methode have some scientific base... not related to the chimical working but to the psychologic effect... A lot of modern doctor forget about the mind and his power... remember, i have speak about clown in clinic... but clinic test have show that laugh and good mood help to heal...

Why so many people use it... because it is not bad, no counter indication like on several usual medical drugs... the placenbo effect can help to have a normal hormone level ( the brain one, not the sexual one ) and lead to a more fast healing... Homeopathie can make wonder when associate with usual medecine... but alone, it don't heal...

sorry...I don't agree with you here. I could see all homeopathical medicines could have side effects. I mean all h.medicines can give "pathogeneses".You can know this termin.It is not real side effect but if this medicine is not right for patient after long time using this medicine can give pathology.   

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At a other extreme, a lot of people read and believe horoscope ( Zodiac )... do you think that because several believe in it, it is true ?

I don't find horoscopes very interesting to me.But I like fen-shuy. :)


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Yes, i was forget the typical Russian way... a lot of homeopathic product are based on alcohol... since Vodka is cheap in Russia and men like Vodka, it will explain the low prize and the success...

This low price is not because of that.It is because all farmaceutical and medical workers have low salary.


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No, all people are not able to decide wich way to go... by personal experience, with the ex russian wife, i know that some are ready to follow blindly charlatan and risk the life of her own daughter... so people never ask question to doctor... they jump from one doctor to the other until they find the one who agree with them...

but it is always same.We want to find a right doctor for ourself...therefore we must jump.It is natural isn' it? And I can say all my patients ask me about this method and I tell them all what I know ( only truth ) with a great pleasure. I tell them about no scientific background, many opponents against ...

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Why ? Is it a secret secte... I don't know for US but i think that it is similar to here in Belgium... Customer ( the ill people ) ask to doctor the "why", the "how", the potential problem of any therapy... I will never blindly believe a doctor because of his diploma... Hey, it is my life, i have the right to be informed...

sorry...I don't want to offend you, but we (colleges) can speak at one language and at one level. Yes, sometimes (not often) somebody can come to me with some discusses about this method ( maybe because I work very open in my town and everybody can visit me) and we can have some conversations but it is different from conversation between colleges.

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Cancer... Hmmmm, again my plant reference... one plant very common in our wood... root need to be used... Berberis vulgaris... clinical test ( in vitro ) show that these plant is a potent macrophage activator for inducing cytostatic activity against tumor cells... unfortunaly, these plant have around 8 alcoloide, who are illegal drugs... and side effect are big...

mm, I didn't know any cytostatic activity from Berberis vulgaris,sorry. Macrofagal activity is activity against foreign cells, but tumor cells are not foreign cells for organism. Therefore our organism can not discover tumor.Our immune sistem in the most cases keeps silence.

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But since homeopathy have no method for cancer ( plant medecine have some but they are to much dangerous, conventional medecine have success research for some type of cancer but since the long way to the commercialisation of a drug ( almost 10 year ), we will see it when we will be old ),

I was talking about chemical medicines...we can not say OOHH!!! Chemistry is not good because it can not find a medicines against cancer. We wait with great impatience.

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let see a other one... a test for you :

For what is used in homeopathie the following mix ? :
acet-ac, adren, alf, all-s, alumn, am-c, aml-n, ant-t, arg-m, arg-n, arn, ars, ars-br, ars-i, aur, aur-m, bar-c, bell, benz-ac, BOV, bry, calc, calc-p, CARC, cean, cham, chel, chim, chin, chion, coca, cod, coff, colch, con, crot-h, cupr, cupr-ar, cur, elaps, eup-pur, ferr-m, fl-ac, glon, glyc, hell, HELON, hep, iod, iris, kali-br, kali-chl, kali-p, kreos, lac-d, lach, lec, lith, LYC, lycps, lyss, mag-s, med, mosch, morph, mur-ac, murx, nat-m, nat-p, nat-s, nit-ac, nux-v, op, petr, PH-AC, phase, PHOS, pic-ac, PLB, podo, rat, rhus-a, sal-ac, sec, sep, sil, equil, sulph, sul-ac, tarax, TARENT, TER, thuj, thyr, tub, URAN-N, urea, vanad, zinc, ziz

Yes, i test you ! And it is a question i hope have a reply !

sorry...I never seen similar medicines before.So many different components! I advice to take  one by one. I prefer to use medicines by constitution.

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If you don't find, i advice you to take :
aur, bell, carc, dig, hyos, IGN, nat-m
These mix is recommended for "depression from disappointed love", can be perfect in your own case...

I am not depressed at all. My life continues.I prefer to recomend Ignatia,Valeriana,Chamomila... when somebody  can not sleep because of troubles in life and of ocurse Ignatia is a perfect medicine for dissappointed love. When somebody can not protect himself from rudeness and can feel himself very sadly because of that I can recomend Staphyzagria C 1000. :)

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Yes, i am a simple gardener... i have for hobby the medical plant, but i have learn ( not officialy ) about other medecine ( like homeopathie ) , magic use, etc... sometime really related to the chimical working and sometime only superstition...

OOO!!! I was right you were really interested to speak a little about this subject. :)

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If you wish, i can send you a "mirror"  ::) from the site natmedpro ... natural medecine professional... it is related to several alternative medicine and the modern medicine.. herborist, homeophatie, test clinic, chimical... of if you wish, i can upload it for a short time on my server... it is only 4.5 mb...

send me,please...if I  understood you correctly... is it a link?

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Voodoo is a religion... what you see in film related to zombie, doll, etc are a American variation... if you really wish to know about voodoo, make a trip to Benin, where it is the official religion... nothing to make with magical but all to make with believe and God... Never believe film from Holywood to be the truth... Superman don't really exist !

I don't know much about that and i'd like to watch and know from "first hands", but I have not this chance to know. Maybe I will have a chance but I am not sure.

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Sofia, i don't wish you to say that homeopathie is sh!t... that you are a idiot... but reconize that it have his limit... that it can help but don't heal really... propaganda like you make can lead some people to believe in your therapy and remounce to the real medicine... so, you can be responsible for the death of some... Is it what you wish ? I hate alternative Doctor who think that they are God and they are able to heal everything ! These alternative medicine have exist from century, but only modern medicine have save a lot of life in the recent decennia... Some critic our US friend for a cold medicine based on fact but the reality is that it have save a lot of live, it have prolong the life expectency of people... Yes, US doctor are cold but they safe live... except in a few speciality, everybody go to US when the rest don't work... in health, what count is the result, not the believe !

I totally agree with you in this place. I angry ...sometimes when my friends invite me (ignognito) to visit with them some charlatans  ...OH!!! If you could see me there. When I see how somebody tries to look like a doctor and to "help" without any knoledges in medical area...don't worry I know my position in similar cases and I am able to explain politely why he ( charlatan) is wrong.

So. I find this way very constructive and useful for me.If you see some agression or rudeness  from my side you can say me,pls.

my best wishes

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Re: Hello Mirror
« Reply #83 on: April 28, 2007, 03:00:09 AM »
mm, I didn't know any cytostatic activity from Berberis vulgaris,sorry. Macrofagal activity is activity against foreign cells, but tumor cells are not foreign cells for organism. Therefore our organism can not discover tumor.Our immune sistem in the most cases keeps silence.

Berberis vulgaris have the following alkaloids ( Berbamine, Berberine, Berberubine, Columbamine, Oxycanthine, Palmatine )... These alkaloids are ingested by macrophage and send a signal to cytotoxic T cells... these T cells produce a counpound who is deadly to all other cell but since activity of cancer cell are more high, these cancer cell receive the bigger part of the toxic effect and die... it is what i call a plant chemotherapie... very similar working to the drugs trastuzumab (Herceptin) and rituximab (Rituxan). These work by targeting tumour specific antigens, thus enhancing the host's immune response to tumour cells to which the agent attaches itself.

In actual modern chemotherapy, some plant are used :
- Vinca alkaloids (L01CA) : Vinca alkaloids bind to specific sites on tubulin, inhibiting the assembly of tubulin into microtubules (M phase of the cell cycle). They are derived from the Madagascar periwinkle, Catharanthus roseus (formerly known as Vinca rosea). The vinca alkaloids include: Vincristine, Vinblastine, Vinorelbine, Vindesine
- Podophyllotoxin (L01CB) : Podophyllotoxin is a plant-derived compound used to produce two other cytostatic drugs, etoposide and teniposide. They prevent the cell from entering the G1 phase (the start of DNA replication) and the replication of DNA (the S phase). The exact mechanism of its action still has to be elucidated. The substance has been primarily obtained from the American Mayapple (Podophyllum peltatum). Recently it has been discovered that a rare Himalayan Mayapple (Podophyllum hexandrum) contains it in a much greater quantity, but as the plant is endangered, its supply is limited. Studies have been conducted to isolate the genes involved in the substance's production, so that it could be obtained recombinantively
- Taxanes (L01CD) : Taxanes are derived from the Yew Tree. Paclitaxel (Taxol®) is derived from the bark of the Pacific Yew Tree (Taxus brevifolia). Researchers had found a much renewable source, where the precursors of Paclitaxel can be found in relative high amounts in the leaves of the European Yew Tree (Taxus baccata), and that Paclitaxel, and Docetaxel (a semi-synthetic analogue of Paclitaxel) could be obtained by semi-synthetic conversion. Taxanes enhance stability of microtubules, preventing the separation of chromosomes during anaphase. Taxanes include:     Paclitaxel, Docetaxel

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sorry...I never seen similar medicines before.So many different components! I advice to take  one by one. I prefer to use medicines by constitution.

 ::) homeopatic official mix for the Diabetes mellitus...

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I am not depressed at all. My life continues.I prefer to recomend Ignatia,Valeriana,Chamomila...

Valeriana officinalis... not wrong choice since it is a natural Valium ( benzodiazepine drugs )  but does not appear to have side effects (impaired mental function, morning hangover, dependency)...

Matricaria chamomilla... have not effect related to depression...

One plant come to my mind when related to depression... Hypericum perforatum who is a antidepressant due to a blocking of serotonin resorption by postsynaptic receptors and maybe by increasing light utilization and influencing the serotonin-melatonin metabolism... working cancelled is ingested with beer, cheese or wine... Hemagogue effect, so not recommended for pregnant woman...

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send me,please...if I  understood you correctly... is it a link?

Nope, no link... before, it was online but now, they publish it on CD, only for doctor... i was lucky enough to "capture" the site in 2002, just before he go away... some patience and i will upload it to my server...


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Re: Hello Mirror
« Reply #84 on: April 28, 2007, 03:25:34 AM »
send me,please...if I  understood you correctly... is it a link?

For the start page : http://www.love-from-russia.be/BotanLat.html

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- Aminoacid : http://www.love-from-russia.be/Aminoacid.htm
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Re: Hello Mirror
« Reply #85 on: April 28, 2007, 04:33:19 AM »
Berberis vulgaris have the following alkaloids ( Berbamine, Berberine, Berberubine, Columbamine, Oxycanthine, Palmatine )... These alkaloids are ingested by macrophage and send a signal to cytotoxic T cells... these T cells produce a counpound who is deadly to all other cell but since activity of cancer cell are more high, these cancer cell receive the bigger part of the toxic effect and die... it is what i call a plant chemotherapie... very similar working to the drugs trastuzumab (Herceptin) and rituximab (Rituxan). These work by targeting tumour specific antigens, thus enhancing the host's immune response to tumour cells to which the agent attaches itself.

a good level!  :) yes, immunology is very perspective field and every day we have news from this area.My view to stop of differentiation is more important that cytotoxic reactions.Therefore I prefer to use interferones.Of course it depends from stage of tumor. I  try to stop some chronical diseases with using interferones than to kill everything in oncological sick organism.Different treatment.   

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In actual modern chemotherapy, some plant are used :
- Vinca alkaloids (L01CA) : Vinca alkaloids bind to specific sites on tubulin, inhibiting the assembly of tubulin into microtubules (M phase of the cell cycle). They are derived from the Madagascar periwinkle, Catharanthus roseus (formerly known as Vinca rosea). The vinca alkaloids include: Vincristine, Vinblastine, Vinorelbine, Vindesine

I know these names.

 
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Valeriana officinalis... not wrong choice since it is a natural Valium ( benzodiazepine drugs )  but does not appear to have side effects (impaired mental function, morning hangover, dependency)...

Matricaria chamomilla... have not effect related to depression...

I meant homeopathycal Chamomilla цфы for relaxing. It is extremaly important for this case.Sorry...I don't agree...

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One plant come to my mind when related to depression... Hypericum perforatum who is a antidepressant due to a blocking of serotonin resorption by postsynaptic receptors and maybe by increasing light utilization and influencing the serotonin-melatonin metabolism... working cancelled is ingested with beer, cheese or wine... Hemagogue effect, so not recommended for pregnant woman...

OH!!! Serotonin - a staff of pleasure!  :) Maybe herbal Hypericum perforatum-yes, but in homeopathy I don't use Hypericum perforatum in similar cases at all.


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Re: Hello Mirror
« Reply #86 on: April 28, 2007, 04:40:01 AM »
For the start page : http://www.love-from-russia.be/BotanLat.html

By browsing from the start page, you can reach other section via hyperlink... by example :

- Vitamine : http://www.love-from-russia.be/Vitbcomp.htm
- Aminoacid : http://www.love-from-russia.be/Aminoacid.htm
- illness related : http://www.love-from-russia.be/Menopaus.htm , http://www.love-from-russia.be/Aids.htm , etc

For download all, http://www.love-from-russia.be/Archive.zip ... 2.6 MB for 388 pages in total... you have 24 hours for browse it or download it... after, it will be deleted from the server...


Ok,

thank you.I will look.

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Re: Hello Mirror
« Reply #87 on: May 01, 2007, 12:03:00 PM »
Since this thread has thankfully died, I thought I'd be a masochist and resurrect it by addressing something related that I haven't seen discussed before; something that might benefit guys who are new to the search, that being:

Don't discuss politics with your Russian/Ukrainian gf on your first date.

I've dated dozens of FSU women and I've met only one who was even remotely interested in politics. By and large, most FSU people feel very detached from the political process (surprise!) and you will bore your girl to tears if you want to sit in a cafe and compare the Republic of Texas to Ukraine.

History = YES
Politics = NO

I realize this has just been my experience, but I just don't see politics as normal daily discourse in the FSU as I do in the West; if you want to impress your girl with your intellect you're much more apt to do it through a discussion of history, literature, or art.


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Re: Hello Mirror
« Reply #88 on: May 01, 2007, 12:31:40 PM »
Groovlstk,

 Your daily beating is at 6:30 PM. Don't be late.

 History is fine as long as you remember the truth about the Great Patriotic War and who won it. Sure the other Allied nations were around to pick up this or that piece and to sweep up so we let them be included in the party.  ;)

Ken

Since this thread has thankfully died, I thought I'd be a masochist and resurrect it by addressing something related that I haven't seen discussed before; something that might benefit guys who are new to the search, that being:

Don't discuss politics with your Russian/Ukrainian gf on your first date.

I've dated dozens of FSU women and I've met only one who was even remotely interested in politics. By and large, most FSU people feel very detached from the political process (surprise!) and you will bore your girl to tears if you want to sit in a cafe and compare the Republic of Texas to Ukraine.

History = YES
Politics = NO

I realize this has just been my experience, but I just don't see politics as normal daily discourse in the FSU as I do in the West; if you want to impress your girl with your intellect you're much more apt to do it through a discussion of history, literature, or art.


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Re: Hello Mirror
« Reply #89 on: May 01, 2007, 10:44:33 PM »
Since this thread has thankfully died, I thought I'd be a masochist and resurrect it by addressing something related that I haven't seen discussed before; something that might benefit guys who are new to the search, that being:

Don't discuss politics with your Russian/Ukrainian gf on your first date.

I've dated dozens of FSU women and I've met only one who was even remotely interested in politics. By and large, most FSU people feel very detached from the political process (surprise!) and you will bore your girl to tears if you want to sit in a cafe and compare the Republic of Texas to Ukraine.

History = YES
Politics = NO

I realize this has just been my experience, but I just don't see politics as normal daily discourse in the FSU as I do in the West; if you want to impress your girl with your intellect you're much more apt to do it through a discussion of history, literature, or art.



This thread was not about politicy.Somebody asked my own view about a situation in Russia and my own view about Ukrainie. Now we continue to exchange our opinions privately.

Personaly I am interested to know more about not policy in the West...but about relations between people.

As I could see Russians and western people have a huge difference in a question about some places in a morality ( I mean a reports to the police and similar...).I didn't know about that. 

In Russia we never write reports at each other to the police.We can say some disagreements to face of this "bad" person but never write reports behind a back. I could see in many places here it is normal for the West but not normal in Russia. And I am glad now to know about that.I think all my compatriots must know it from first place if they want to integrate in West culture.

I can not say western people are bad because of that...I think this diference depends from terms of life and something else. Of course I'd like to know for myself why. But if it looks like a "big" policy again I can stop and I can search in other places of internet.

it is my point of view.

 

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