Skulls and Tattoos

[Simoni]

Well, some 2,000-odd years ago, tattoos were VERY popular in Russia, lol.  Or at least Siberia. The frozen body of a Scythian chieftain dating to 50 BCE was unearthed that was, to put it mildly, heavily tattooed.  The designs have since become popular . . . again. 

I didn't know they had a navy, and sailors, back then :-) LOL

[Infantryman]

Sailor?  Them's fightin' words, pal! 

[2tallbill]

Sailor?  Them's fightin' words, pal! 

My stepson is a naval aviator, which means he flies jets onto an aircraft carrier. There have been a number of times in Iraq for
example that Navy planes have flown in air support for army units on the ground. Of course the Navy usually flies to protect
Marine units, but in the current military there is more interdisciplinary support than ever before. Army, Navy, Airforce and Marines are
all on the same team except when they play football etc.

Don't worry I know you respect your brothers in arms. You are a proud member of the United States Army and I am happy and proud that
you have voluntarily spent part of your life defending me and our country.

Take care,

Bill

[Jazzyclassy]

Oh I respect all the military people and everything but that does not mean they need to have  the same tattoos all over their body it is not cool really
 even 1 tattoo very very small  one is not nice to my mind , it again shows that this or that person wants to stress that hey take a look at me I am different and you are all just crowd  grey people  , not a smart person's thinking.That is true love for fame and silly showing off. Because well if you can not be individual within  your personality your character, your soul , then you try and decorate your body in order to be something special:P absolutely strange for me! And I do not understand it.What the sake of are people doing this tattoos for , god knows

Take a look at old Ozzy Osborn he looks absolutely horrible with his  decrepit hanging skin and different mis-shapen tattoos , it looks pathetic and ridiculous. Was this Ozzy thinking while young what he was doing with his body? oh I doubt ... he never even thought that it would occur this way , messy old ruined body , plus insane mind ..... sorry about him really

 

[SANDRO43]

Take a look at old Ozzy Osborn he looks absolutely horrible with his  decrepit hanging skin and different mis-shapen tattoos , it looks pathetic and ridiculous.

Because he was not preserved in ice for 5,300 years .
I hope you appreciated the fact that this time I posted the photo of a naked MAN .

[2tallbill]

Oh I respect all the military people and everything but that does not mean they need to have the same tattoos all over their body it is not cool really
 even 1 tattoo very very Small one is not nice to my mind , it again shows that this or that person wants to stress that hey take a look at me I am different and you are all just crowd grey people , not a smart person's thinking.That is true love of fame and silly showing off. Cos well if you can not be individual by your personality your character, your soul , then you try and decorate your body in order to be something special:P absolutely strange for me! And I do not understand it.What the sake of are people doing this tattoos for , god knows

Take a look at old Ozzy Osborn he looks absolutely horrible with his decrepit hanging skin and different mis-shapen tattoos , it looks pathetic and ridiculous. Was this Ozzy thinking while young what he was doing with his body? oh I doubt ... he never even thought that it would occur this way , messy old ruined body , plus insane mind ..... sorry about him really

 

Jazzy I agree that most often men or women get tattoos when they are young. When they are older they look at themselves and wish they didn't do it.
Its like a lot of things. I am a 45 year old man I am not going to try smoking. When I was young it looked very cool and I tried to take a few puffs and
I hated it. I was an athlete and it hurt my lungs to try it. I have a few friends my age that have a tattoo. Every single one of them wish they didn't.
But if a young man has one does it mean that a Russian woman would not like him? I think it depends on the man and the lady. I don't have any but
some men do. The question is what they should do about it (I think)

Bill

[Jazzyclassy]

     I hope you appreciated the fact that this time I posted the photo of a naked MAN       

hahaah of course dear Sandro I appreciate it never worry

[Jazzyclassy]

  The question is what they should do about it (I think)

Bill

             

well they just need to learn a lesson from their youth never to do that again:) if its done its already done , nothing they can do about it ,only  never to repeat the same  mistakes again:)

[catzenmouse]

It is part of the nature of youth to not pay attention to the lessons learned from previous generations. Every, (Ok, almost everybody) thinks that they are different, that they are the exception to the rule and that they will have these same beliefs and values throughout their life. Most of them are wrong.

I know you probably won't believe it now Jazzy but in twenty years you will look back on many of the things that you think are absolute truth now and wonder what you could have possibly been thinking to believe that way. 

Ken

[2tallbill]

It is part of the nature of youth to not pay attention to the lessons learned from previous generations. Every, (Ok, almost everybody) thinks that they are different, that they are the exception to the rule and that they will have these same beliefs and values throughout their life. Most of them are wrong.

I know you probably won't believe it now Jazzy but in twenty years you will look back on many of the things that you think are absolute truth now and wonder what you could have possibly been thinking to believe that way. 

Ken

Ken you make a good post. I have been written by nice girls who are 20 years old. It would never work, I am old enough to know this but they will argue that they are very mature LOL
I don't argue with them after my first nice letter telling them that I am seeking someone older and with more life experience.

Bill

[I/O]

I've yet to see a tattoo which "Improves" the appearance of the person wearing it.

I/O

[ScottinCrimea]

I beg to differ.  I have seen women who tattoo around the lips or eyes to take the place of makeup and it does enhance their appearance.  Many Russian women do this and you probably have dated some and not even known it.

[Jazzyclassy]

I beg to differ.  I have seen women who tattoo around the lips or eyes to take the place of makeup and it does enhance their appearance.  Many Russian women do this and you probably have dated some and not even known it.

well that  is excusable to do for an old women yeah , but not for young ones

god even my mom who is  in her 50's never puts this kinda tattoos over her lips or eyelashes , cos she is great and amazing without it


Dear Ken Catzenmouse , what you told was not related to the topic of tattoos , I told   my point about them and I doubt that this opinion will change, the other ones about something else might change but not this one about tattoos:P

[I/O]

I beg to differ.  I have seen women who tattoo around the lips or eyes to take the place of makeup and it does enhance their appearance.  Many Russian women do this and you probably have dated some and not even known it.

Yep...!!  I've known it allright. Doesn't change my opinion of it one iota.

I/O

[William3rd]

I think that there is a wide difference between cosmetic tattoos, religious or tribal tattoos of history and what tattoos are now prevalent in our culture now.

Let's see- wife's name over your heart-if you change wives, you can fill it in as a design and put on the new wife, gang affiliation in big letters across your back, teardrops under the eye representing the number of years in prison, and your gang nickname on your shoulder. So Los Angeles. . . . . . .

[El Rock]

 and I would not consider her highly sophisticated.

That is a judgment

[groovlstk]

On my last few trips to Moscow, I was distressed to see a very high number of young women (I'd guesstimate in the 17-21 year range) as tattooed and pierced as their Western counterparts. In the bigger cities, the times they are a-changin'

[catzenmouse]

Dear Ken Catzenmouse , what you told was not related to the topic of tattoos , I told   my point about them and I doubt that this opinion will change, the other ones about something else might change but not this one about tattoos:P

Not tattoos specifically but the reasoning behind a lot of them. And yes, I still feel now how I did about getting a tattoo which is that I do not want one. So not all opinions will change. I still believe many of the things now that I did 20 odd years ago, but there are many things that I see were just the foolish thinking of someone who did not have the experience and knowledge to understand the reality of it.

I had one girlfriend many years ago who liked body piercings and in the spirit of the relationship I got one. I found it to be more of an annoyance than anything else and took it off. We can all do silly things. I'm glad it wasn't tattoos that she was into...

Ken

[ScottinCrimea]

I'm not a big fan of tattoos and I flipped out when I found out two of my daughters got them, but I don't think we can judge every person who has a tattoo the same.  A small, discreet, tasteful tattoo is one thing, a large, obvious fire breathing demon from hell is another.

If any of you choose to get married in Simferopol, the service will be performed by a friend of ours, a lady in her 40's who has tasteful tattoos as eye liner, lip liner and eyebrows, that look no different and actually less pronounced than the make up most women apply there.  Also, if you need anything done with the Ministry of Economics in Crimea, if you ever make it to the top, you would be dealing with another woman in her 40's that has a small fairy tattoo where only the best of friends would see it.  Both are among the most sophisticated, well-educated, classy women I have met here.

So, despite my previous opinions, if I were to choose to reject anyone off hand who has a tattoo, I would have to disown two of my daughters and lose two great friends.

[Infantryman]

Interservice rivalries will always exist.  I think it's in the Bill of Rights.   I guess I understand the arguments against vanity tattoos, but I'm afraid that unless you've been there, military tattoos won't make much sense.  The reason for the post has been well answered and I thank everyone for their input. 

John
(Who is still in the military, though it's the Reserves now.)

[Simoni]

Marina says tattoos are for prisoners in the FSU....

Guess Angelina has served some time    LOL

[I/O]

but I don't think we can judge every person who has a tattoo the same.  So, despite my previous opinions, if I were to choose to reject anyone off hand who has a tattoo, I would have to disown two of my daughters and lose two great friends.

Scott: I concur.  I have never said I would imediately dislike the person under the tattoo, I simply dislike tattoos period.  Being completely biased and totally sexist in this particular area, I dislike them even more on women.  How double standard is that? {Shrug} 'Tis how 'tis.

With kids still a possability, the day might come when I, like you, have to cop it.  I hope not, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

I/O

[Son of Clyde]

I would visit my grandfather, in a nursing home,  he died at 85. I remember seeing him as a frail man but he had a tattoo. I don't know where I am going with this except to say I thought it was strange but admirable to see the older men with tattoos. You realize there was a time in their lives when they did spontaneous things. I do not see it as a crazy thing to do. Many men were in the military and had patriotic tattoos. I don't like the skull and crossbones much but I see some tattoos I would not mind wearing.

[Wayne B]

I beg to differ.  I have seen women who tattoo around the lips or eyes to take the place of makeup and it does enhance their appearance.  Many Russian women do this and you probably have dated some and not even known it.

  Scott, you are very right.....and many AW also have their lips and eyes tattooed

[Simoni]

I would visit my grandfather, in a nursing home,  he died at 85. I remember seeing him as a frail man but he had a tattoo. I don't know where I am going with this except to say I thought it was strange but admirable to see the older men with tattoos. You realize there was a time in their lives when they did spontaneous things. I do not see it as a crazy thing to do. Many men were in the military and had patriotic tattoos. I don't like the skull and crossbones much but I see some tattoos I would not mind wearing.

SOC, I don't think the issue is whether American's accept tattoos.  By and large, they clearly do, expecially on miliatary men.  But see the quote below...

So, I was reading Phantoms introductory post and someone said that skulls and tattoos might not be appreciated by FSUW. 

Infantryman used ths quote to begin this thread.  The questoin is "will FSU women appreciate tattoos?"  The answer is....most will not.  But I don't think it is a "deal-breaker."