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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2007, 09:59:34 AM »
William,
Isn't it possible that they are just using this A/R as a long term stall tactic?  Since there are no real age limitations, they stick the application in a bureaucratic black hole so they do not have to approve it?  I know Turbo had difficulty getting his last fiancee approved and this one is even younger!
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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2007, 10:05:25 AM »
William, with only a few weeks until I leave for the Carribean for the Summer it seems to me that there is not enough time to get much done.  I think it makes more sense to see if it gets resolved on it's own while I am gone and when I come back in August if it is still the same to persue some actions then.

Something that seems strange to me William, I have noticed that most of the people in A/R seem almost ashamed of it, like they had done something wrong.  For example the guy who spend 28 months in A/R at NVC and then went back into A/R for two months so far at the embassy level, told me his story and then made me promise never to reveal his identity (I am talking forum nic not real name).  I have contacted everyone I could find on A/R but they are like shadows who step out of the darkness and tell me a little and then hide out.  I am far from that.  Neither of us has anything in our background to hide or to be concerned about.  I think it was triggered by it being the second K-1 for her.

Going together might be a good idea but would we not have to be from the same district to do that?   Right now my thoughts are to take a serious look at the mandamus action in August.  Would it make sense to tell my congressman that I am planning or considering that.  It would seem to me it might be something that they would want to avoid?  I am also thinking of contacting my Senator since my congressman did nothing.  Thanks for the suggestions and comments.   :wallbash:

Simoni, I agree that's funny!   :mooning:    

Wayne, nice comment, some never grow up but sometimes I think I never did too.

Ken, My last one sailed though like clockwork until she messed up the interview.   I also think if they were just out to sit on it that would have happened in VT.

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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2007, 10:21:22 AM »
Here is what you can do- take the time to have a consult and get an evaluation, including the chances of multiple plaintiffs, and find out what it may cost. Keep in mind that there are opportunities to get your attorney fees paid-but you have to go out of pocket first.

Then you can think about it until you get back.

May well be the second K visa for her-or the age differences. You certainly have ample evidence of time togetehr.

Do you know what the age differences are between her and her prior fiance?

Good luck and have fun in the Caribbean.

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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2007, 11:04:38 AM »
William, I PMed some information to you.  That might be a good idea to at least see if I can find a good attorney and have a consultation.  I am sure it won't be cheap but it will probably be less than the cost of spending as much time together as we will be doing.  Fortunately neither of us has to live a life of luxury but the places we are going are not cheap by any means.   I have managed to find some good places to stay that won't break the bank.  Thanks again for the comments and advice.

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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2007, 11:13:54 AM »
Here is what you can do- take the time to have a consult and get an evaluation, including the chances of multiple plaintiffs, and find out what it may cost. Keep in mind that there are opportunities to get your attorney fees paid-but you have to go out of pocket first.

Then you can think about it until you get back.

May well be the second K visa for her-or the age differences. You certainly have ample evidence of time together.

Do you know what the age differences are between her and her prior fiance?

Good luck and have fun in the Caribbean.


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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2007, 02:15:38 PM »
Turbo,

Guessed you guys were joking but dont get too cynical.  Is there still auto e-mails from the DOHC updating you/her on the progress?  Logins at the site?  You can check these frequently to at least feel active on vacation.  Maybe superstitous, but routine logging in and calling, politely, may help, as others claim for the normal K-1 process.  Have you tried VJ yet? Organizing others in your endeavor or at least discusing helps too.  Maybe be ready if you find the attourney route is the most viable. Your vacation should be a good one, enjoy ;)

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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2007, 02:55:41 PM »
Thank Muj,

They don't enter K-1 visas on the website at NVC because the stay is usually so short.   You can email or call for an update and I have been calling every two weeks.  The call goes to the call center so it has no impact on the processing.  I am signed up for email updates but at best I will only get an email if it is approved and sent to Moscow.

Yes, I am on VJ at least every two hours and am in touch with many of the people going through the same thing. 

Yes, I think the trip to the Caribbean will be very nice.  Neither off us are beach bunnies and we are more wanting to live like a normal married couple.  I don't know that we think of it as a vacation.  She wanted someplace that English was spoken so she can be immersed in it.  All I cared about was a place to be together.  I don't really care if there is an ocean or things to do as long as she is there.  There were not a lot of options.   I am going to take my laptop and work a few hours a day, we are going to spend at least 2 hours a day on English lessons.  We will likely eat in more than out and I am not sure which of us will be doing the cooking.

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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2007, 10:18:26 PM »
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The A/R is a security thing relating to 9/11 and to make sure no terrorists enter the country

Now why would she raise the suspicion of being a terrorist? Unless she has a name like:'Mohammad Atta' or maybe they know she has a code name VWFW(not sure if this is the one) and are investigating if she is with the KGB :)

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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2007, 04:55:29 AM »
I think the hit was for the previous K-1 for her.  A second K-1 seems to do that.   

I just found another guy with a Russian fiancee in the same boat.  His was also a second K-1 for her but first for him.  She too had returned in less than 90 days.   Basically I think if they see a previous K-1 for the gal they pull the file to make sure she did not voilate the terms of the K-1 and they are so speedy that it takes them anywhere from 2 months to 2 years to do that.  After all it is the computer age.

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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2007, 09:09:30 AM »
Yes, as turboguy says I am in similar situation.  2 and 1/2 months in A/R at embassy level.  No reason except prior k-1 for her.  However, other beneficiarys with k-1's have sailed thru.   I filed 129f in early Dec.  No reason except they say waiting for "clearances" from Washington.  I have tried the usual inquiries.-jj ::)

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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2007, 09:36:12 AM »
Now why would she raise the suspicion of being a terrorist? Unless she has a name like:'Mohammad Atta' or maybe they know she has a code name VWFW(not sure if this is the one) and are investigating if she is with the KGB :)

It probably wasn't her. It was Yusef Mohammed TurboGuy Hassiim that caused all the problems... Some people are just born trouble! ;)
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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2007, 09:40:36 AM »
Maybe I should change my nickname to TurboTrouble  :D

If it is any consulation the A/R at the Embassy level does seem to go a bit faster than when it hits at the NVC level.   I do hope your stay in A/R  A/P is short and that we can soon be reading posts about her adapting to life in America.

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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2007, 08:26:33 PM »
It probably wasn't her. It was Yusef Mohammed TurboGuy Hassiim that caused all the problems... Some people are just born trouble! ;)


"CATZ,"

Yeah, I know that Turbojalabadguy.. He's Barack Hussein Obama's long lost brother isn't he? Wait, here's a better idea. Why not start your own business like this one...I hear it can be lucrative! LOL 8)



   ;) just kidding turbo, I'm sorry to hear of your troubles and wish you the best of luck in the future. Enjoy the beautiful caribbean for the summer and the time you'll have with your fiancee.

Good Luck,
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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2007, 05:44:40 AM »
The new info is out, and it is shocking.    I had posted some statistics earlier in this thread about A/P and A/R.   They were based on May 2006 statistics.    The May 2007 statisics are out and I will post details later today including the first timelines on A/P A/R

I had quoted that there were 138,000 people in A/R.   The new number is 329,000   

The report I read also indicated that the whole thing is a waste and may actually increase the risk to national security.  (Many of the people in A/R are already in the country so the long processing time allows them to be here longer)   Most all risks are picked up by other checks.

I also found out with certainty that the A/R is ALWAYS a check of the benificiary.  It is never a check of the petitioner.  The petitioner is checked at the USCIS office.   I know some people have worried about things in their background causing the delays.  That is never the case.

There are some bright spots.   The processing is done by the FBI.  It is done on a per fee basis and some of the new increases in fees will be channeled to increase the fees paid to the FBI which should speed processing times.


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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2007, 06:22:26 AM »
So- does that mean that some of you guys might actually try mandamus now-or are you all gonna not make waves and keep waiting?

Do you have a link to that report?

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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2007, 10:00:40 AM »
Eric, is that the city flag of Voronezh at bottom left ?
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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2007, 10:23:10 AM »
William, When I have more time tonight I am going to type up some very detailed information from the report.  The report itself is a pdf file so I can't cut and paste and do it the easy way.  I will also provide a link to the whole report and the pages that refer to A/R

It is acutally the first timelines I have ever seen for A/R and it is not encouraging.

As far as the Mandamus I am going to give it until we come back from the Caribbean.  I have so much to do to get ready and with so little time for proper follow up it just seems more logical.  We are just a little over a week away from the 5 month mark in A/R.  Looking at the timeline the 9-10 month mark seems pretty active and if you pass that the picture is bleak.   About 10% are over 33 months. 

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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2007, 10:39:18 AM »
TG,

 Use your PrintScreen button and crop the sections in Photoshop then you can just add the pic to the thread.

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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2007, 11:22:01 AM »
The report itself is a pdf file so I can't cut and paste and do it the easy way. 

T/G  -- They have software that allows you to edit PDFs.  I use it all the time.  Might be worth buying... just a thought.

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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2007, 11:58:46 AM »
Is the software through adobe or someone else.  It does sound useful.

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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2007, 12:03:21 PM »
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/

Professional version is $450

Standard version is $300

Go with the pro version if you want to create forms etc. For basic page editing the standard version is fine.

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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2007, 02:06:34 PM »
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/

Professional version is $450

Standard version is $300

Go with the pro version if you want to create forms etc. For basic page editing the standard version is fine.

Ken

I became disenchanted with Adobe and their money-grubbing upgrade demands. In fairness, it is not as bad as Microsoft's - BUT - when I recently switched to Vista, I was faced with upgrading Adobe (and a dozen or so other programs). I opted instead to fire Adobe and purchase deskPDF from docudesk for $29. It does virtually everything Acrobat does, but for a fraction of the price - and they ALSO have a companion program called deskUNpdf (additional cost) which allows the conversion of a PDF file to editable text.

Just an alternative - and one that I am happy I exercised.

FWIW

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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2007, 02:10:09 PM »
Thanks Dan! I haven't heard about that one. I got so used to Acrobat working at the Fed (it was the only thing we were allowed to use) that I never looked any further. I'll have to check that out. And geez it's only $270 less than the regular version...

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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #48 on: June 14, 2007, 03:50:55 PM »
Why spend money, when you can download for free Foxit Reader 2.0 for Windows from http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/reader_2/down_reader.htm  ;)?
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Re: Mine field's in the K-1 Process
« Reply #49 on: June 14, 2007, 04:07:33 PM »
It's not the reader. You can also get that for free from Adobe. It is the ability to create and edit a PDF. As far as that goes I can open .pdf files in Illustrator or Photoshop.

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