Too many 8.5s, 9s and 10s?

[Maxx2]

A friend of mine here in Minneapolis is writing a woman from this website

http://www.dating-world.net/Women's%20Profiles/Women's%20Profiles1.htm

He's serious about the whole process having been to Kiev once and talks of going back. I would like to get your feedback and I'll pass it on to him.

Thanks


Maxx

[I/O]

It's all way to hard for my ol' mind to try to sort out from that lot, but one thing I can tell you for sure is that you wont find a "Decent" Russian woman knowingly hanging photos like this up on the net.  http://www.dating-world.net/W%20DATA/w%20data%20501-520/w508.htm

And.........this one gives new meaning to "Tit for Tat". http://www.dating-world.net/W%20DATA/w%20data%20151-165/w160.htm Gawd.....why would you bother. If that lot are 8's to 10's I musta got about a 40 to 50. :noidea: :noidea:

I/O

[Kuna]

Maxx,

I had a look at the site and one of the good things is that it's NOT a pay per letter site.  A monthly fee (4 levels available) apparently gives you access to the ladies contact details including phne number if it's been provided.

Of course there are good agencies with bad girls... and bad agencies with good girls...  but at the very least he won't get stuck paying per letter if he uses this site.

Kuna

[AnastassiaAsh]

i have seen this girl   Code No: w282   looong time ago, from the time i came here in 2000....nothing against her, but i will bet she has been doing this for long time - what does that mean? Wrong bad men, lots of visits, being a scammer herself....don't know, no idea, but just wanted to let you know.

[Shadow]

Apart from some of the staff names appearing in scam lists (in different cities so what is in a name), they are very much in to selling agency hype.

Are Russian women's personalities different from Western women?
Yes, they are a bit different. They don't have a different type of character, and they also love shopping and chatting. They are human beings and they are definitely not perfect. The main difference is that they are much more patient and can tolerate things that Western women will never be able to bear. They are more considerate and dependable. They are partners, not competitors.
Another important difference is that Russian women (and Russians in general) have very low self-esteem. While Western women think that they are goddesses and able to cope with anything on their own, a Russian woman will rarely leave a bad (really bad) husband because of the fear that she won't find another one. For many years the state and men have been oppressing them, and they don't think much about themselves.
In Russia there is a shortage of good men available for marriage. This is due to a higher death rate among Russian men, these men have one of the lowest life expectancies rates of any developed country. Also due to the poor economic situation in Russia many men do not want the added responsibility of a wife and family and can not support them.
Western men have a reputation for treating their wives and family very well, they are viewed as being more loyal, reliable, sober, and intelligent than most Russian men
Russian women are well groomed, stylish and intelligent (as are Russians in general) but they pay much less attention to sport and other aspects of healthy life-style. Nevertheless, they are rarely overweight - probably, because of permanent stress and food that is expensive. And they still walk a lot because they don't have cars

Is it true that nearly 80 percent of Russian women smoke?
No, it's not true. Some of Russian women do smoke but not more than 5-10%. In the large cities like Moscow or St Petersburg, the percentage can be probably about 15%.

Most pictures are 'professional' in terms of setting, make-up and poses. As far as the general impression, they seem average for their age and looks group.

[2tallbill]

I/O seems to be implying that wearing a bikini in a photo is a red flag.

I think it's a little off topic so I will post the question in the starting out section.

Bill

[I/O]

I/O seems to be implying that wearing a bikini in a photo is a red flag.

No Bill, I wasn't, what I WAS implying is who wants a doll with a RED tattoo on her tits? Take another look and you'll see what I mean.

The point is there is a zillion introduction sites and ALL of them have goodly percentage of less than desirable content AND methodology. 

I/O

[Serebro]

i have seen this girl   Code No: w282   looong time ago, from the time i came here in 2000....nothing against her, but i will bet she has been doing this for long time - what does that mean? Wrong bad men, lots of visits, being a scammer herself....don't know, no idea, but just wanted to let you know.

Where's the profile?!
Btw, it can mean a lot of things such as
-bad work of the agency-as they don't remove the profile
-the girl has forgotten to remove the profile after finding her love
-she stopped looking and now she started again(many reasons, maybe she visited her bf, it didn't work out or she just got tired, etc)
-she is a scammer
-she is a high maintenance girl
I can't open her profile so I can't say othes possible reasons-maybe this is the way she looks like.
Anyway, have a look at men's profiles(even here), a lot of people registered long time ago and they are still "looking", so...

[AnastassiaAsh]

I meant this one i saw long time ago http://www.dating-world.net/W%20DATA/w%20data%20271-285/w282.htm

Where can you see men's profiles on that site?

Can you even make a search for both women and men?

[Shadow]

I meant this one i saw long time ago http://www.dating-world.net/W%20DATA/w%20data%20271-285/w282.htm

Where can you see men's profiles on that site?

Can you even make a search for both women and men?

Her method of dressing does not completely suit her profile. Also her location does not help.

[ScottinCrimea]

I think I'm going to incite a flame attack here with what I am about to say, and maybe I am wrong and I'm happy to hear other opinions (be gentle please!).

My opinion is that she places too much emphasis on her religion in her profile if she hopes to attract many men, especially on this website.  While it would certainly be appropriate if posted on a Christian dating site, on a general one it tends to be a turn off for the vast majority of men who might be interested in searching abroad for a wife.  Sure she has the right to be specific about her requirements for a man, but it is apparently costing her since, according to Anastassia, she has been at it for 7 years now.

I have a strong belief in God and my religion, but I don't wear it on my sleeve and for me, this much emphasis in a profile on a general site smacks of a bit of fanaticism.

I agree that her pictures, while not overly sexy, don't quite fit the American man's picture of a deeply religious woman.  Maybe she's trying to portray herself as a sexy bible thumper, but to the typical Western Christian mind, something doesn't fit.

I guess bottom line is her profile is not appropriate for a general dating site and her pictures are not appropriate for a Christian dating site.

Now flame away  :burnedup:

[Serebro]

I meant this one i saw long time ago http://www.dating-world.net/W%20DATA/w%20data%20271-285/w282.htm

Where can you see men's profiles on that site?

Can you even make a search for both women and men?

I meant this forum.
About the girl, she lives in Bishkek, it can mean a lot. But anyway, I don't like the way she looks like, I wouldn't trust her, it's just my opinion.

[BillyB]

A friend of mine here in Minneapolis is writing a woman from this website

http://www.dating-world.net/Women's%20Profiles/Women's%20Profiles1.htm

He's serious about the whole process having been to Kiev once and talks of going back. I would like to get your feedback and I'll pass it on to him.

I used dating world but wouldn't recommend them. A third of the mail I sent out to these women were returned. Bad addresses or old.

 I wouldn't put to much stock into profiles. Just write a bunch of women and sort out the ladies you're most compatible with and giving you the most attention.

[Blues Fairy]

But anyway, I don't like the way she looks like, I wouldn't trust her, it's just my opinion.

You better trust her; she says she's already found the Meaning of Life.   
The ultimate authority!

[I/O]

Scott: Can't agree, but not interested in arguing what various religious groups would say is acceptable on the whole.  Nevertheless, she (As pictured and written) would fit in fairly comfortably with moderately conservative Christian groups of singles down here. 

What doesn't fit to me is her being from Bishkek. (Tall, slim, blonde, very fair skin, Christian?) Nahhhhhh sumpin stinky somewhere. Possible but doubtful. I reckon she is about as Kirigi as I am. Me tis thinkin the real name might be Yuriana.  :noidea:

I/O

[Simoni]

My opinion is that she places too much emphasis on her religion in her profile if she hopes to attract many men, especially on this website.  While it would certainly be appropriate if posted on a Christian dating site, on a general one it tends to be a turn off for the vast majority of men who might be interested in searching abroad for a wife. 

Now flame away  :burnedup:

I have to disagree with you on this one, Scott.  I think her profile is honest and is appropriate.  She appears to be serious about the biblical command of not being "yoked" with an unbeliever.  Thus, she states it up front and saves both the men and herself wasted time.

BTW-- we have had a few guys at RWD say they want a "Christian" woman.  I've always advised men that the FSU is NOT the place to look for a believer.  Guess there are exceptions 

[2tallbill]

No Bill, I wasn't, what I WAS implying is who wants a doll with a RED tattoo on her tits? Take another look and you'll see what I mean.

The point is there is a zillion introduction sites and ALL of them have goodly percentage of less than desirable content AND methodology. 

I/O

Ok, I/O I get it a tit for tat.........very punny. I missed your clever humor the first time so shame on me.

I find tattoes are nearly as sexy on women as beards, bald heads or body lice.
I guess I am definitely old school on things like tattoes, piercings etc.

I did think the idea of photos would make a good discussion point and started another thread on it.

Take care,

Bill

[I/O]

"yoked" with an unbeliever. 

If we are gunna go Bible thumping, let's at least get the wording somewhere near accurate.  What is actually written is (Close to) "Do not be unequally yoked with an unbeliever".  Theologians have argued this back and forth for hundreds of years, but two things remain ambiguous, 1) Is what constitutes a believer? and 2) There is no contextual argument to identify this verse with marriage.  Further supporting the counter argument is verses advising one or other party how to actually live peacefully in a marriage where there is religious disharmony.

Another thing the "Good Book" does direct people to do (Again if anyone wants to thump the good book), is to obey and uphold ALL the laws of the land. Some would do well to catch that and take it on board.

Regarding general beliefs in the FSU, since the fall of the communist dominance, there has been a resurgence of Orthodoxy and the majority have a general belief in God as such, but are not particularly interested and as such are simply looking for a generally harmonious way through life. However I would agree that conservative so called evangelicals are not commonplace but they do exist in larger numbers in some areas than one might expect at a first glance.  I highly doubt Bishkek is one of those areas.

All that said, religion is probably better served by it's absence in this whole discussion.

I/O 

[Bruno]

What doesn't fit to me is her being from Bishkek. (Tall, slim, blonde, very fair skin, Christian?) Nahhhhhh sumpin stinky somewhere. Possible but doubtful. I reckon she is about as Kirigi as I am. Me tis thinkin the real name might be Yuriana.  :noidea:

I/O, you are maybe to much young on these forum, so you have not know the sensuality topic... tall, slim, blonde, very fair skin, and christian... take a look at http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=249.0 ... for a profile, take a look at http://www.allforlove.odessa.ua/womens.php?idp=2532 ...

Maybe, you will say that her real name can be Yuriana too... but some guys here have meet with these other Yuriana...

But if everyboby think like you, it don't surprise me that so women stay alone several year... in the process of international dating, it seem that super sexy women have problem to find a man... maybe to much man follow the proverb "too much beautiful for be true"

I reckon she is about as Kirigi as I am

Some other Kirigi from freepersonals.ru :
http://www.freepersonals.ru/showProfile.da?id=248187
http://www.freepersonals.ru/showProfile.da?id=156475
http://www.freepersonals.ru/showProfile.da?id=49128
http://www.freepersonals.ru/showProfile.da?id=244002

Actually, around 10% of the population is Russian... the German from the Volga river, exiled by Stalin there are almost all back to Germany... same with the original population of Vladivostock, Korean origine who was exiled there too...

Yes, islam is raising there... maybe a good reason why the remaining christian wish to flee the country... perfect country for these who wish a trophy wife !!!

Below, a social from a marriage agency from Bishkek ( owner a the right )

http://www.svetlanasbrides.com

[I/O]

Bruno: Travel through Kirgizstan just a little and you'll soon see what I mean. Possible? Yes. Doubtful? Highly.  All I can say to the people who have travelled any amount of the FSU or even just Russia, if they cant see the subtle differences in the features of people from area to area, then they must need new spectacles.

BTW Sensuality or whoever she is supposed to be has littered every website I can think of since way back when I was still looking. Can I be wrong in my dismissal of some? Absolutely...!!! Experience made me very sceptical with very good reason. If it sounds like BS, if it smells like BS and it looks like BS, there is a very good chance it is BS, however some will continue to try to convince themselves other wise. Such is life. :noidea:

I/O

[Stillkatn]

Hi Everybody!

Wow - Thank you Maxx - Lots of good feedback!  Oh - I'm Maxx's MN pal.  Yep, been a while and it takes me some time to get things through my head - like to stop using the pay-per-letter sites. 

So, Maxx hit it on the head - this looked too good to be true.  Yep, I picked up on the typical agency BS in on the site - but hey - that is their business.  I think some self promotion is acceptable.  The smoking bit?  Yea - right (cough, cough).

Good to see BillyB still around too - his agency be damned approach is good - but too much effort for a mutt like me - plus, I spent most of my time in Kyiv waiting for somebody to cut out my kidneys, so the more remote FSU destinations are out of the question for yours truly.  Thanks for all the feedback.

[EnergyAZ]

Hate to raise this one from the dead...

But another observation I see on this site

The average 20-something girl is specifying ages no older than 35...as opposed to many other sites where similar aged girls are all saying they are OK with ages up to 50, etc

No credit system, girls with reasonable age specifications...good signs IMO - I think I might take a closer look at this site

[msmoby_ru]

No credit system, girls with reasonable age specifications...good signs IMO - I think I might take a closer look at this site

Hi, please also note that MANY of these photos are anything but recent.. I recognise some that are six, maybe seven years old...

[Lily]

I'd also tell that many photos are professionally made, and therefore add a lot to the one's attractivity.

[CaptB]

I/O,

As Bruno stated earlier.....a significant population of ethnic Russians reside in Bishkek.
Especially in the early days of this RW business (1999).....I noticed many ethnic Russian profiles on websites from RW residing in Bishkek......only a very small percent of "Kirgiz" listed profiles.


Capt B