league and age gaps

[Turboguy]

Thanks for your comments Ela.  I am glad you found your way to RWD and hope we see more of you in the future.

Just to set the record straight on a few things.  First I have never asked for advice.  I did ask one question that I thought had never been discussed but that was for information not advice.  It is not that I don't think some of the people here are not smart or wise, I just think I have a better view of my situation and any decisions to be made were made long ago and I have never had the smallest reason to question them.

As far as flying around the world and charging it to the company.  First off I own the company I work for so it would come out of the same pocket one way or another.  Second, I have never charged any of my travels to the company.   They have all been paid out of my own pocket.

I think life has a great way of leveling the playing field as we say.   I am sure if we deserve happiness we will find it and if we deserve bad things in the future they will happen.   

I missed any comments about Beauty shops in Beaver Falls so I don't know what that was about.  There are really some there but I am sure they don't work with the quality of beauty the ones in Russia do. 

[jb]

Ela,

my understanding is that Philippinas as well now, who left him as soon as they got to know a real trashy side of Turboguy apart from vacationing and entertaining and dining out on his company expense.

Please elaborate, are you saying you know for a fact that T/G has been to the Philippines in search of tender young flesh as well?  If that's true it's news to me, and I'm sure there are a lot of other board members who were in the dark about that aspect of Turbo's personal travels too.   Hummm,,,the plot thickens.

Turbopaths

Priceless

[Turboguy]

It is not only news to you jb, it is news to me.   Musta been one heckova drunk cause I can't remember ever setting foot in the Philippines.

[jb]

It must be a case of mistaken identify,,, but Ela seems to know who you are,,, and vice versa.  I'm gonna wait for her reply before I pass judgement.

[Turboguy]

Well, I can't say much for the vice-versa part but of course it is not out of the question.  It is a big world sometimes and can be a very small world sometimes.  I guess time will tell.   Can someone help my memory, was there some discussion of a beauty shop in Beaver Falls?   I can't remember any.

[ElaRossa]

Ela,

Please elaborate, are you saying you know for a fact that T/G has been to the Philippines in search of tender young flesh as well?  If that's true it's news to me, and I'm sure there are a lot of other board members who were in the dark about that aspect of Turbo's personal travels too.   Hummm,,,the plot thickens.

Priceless

Vanity, thy name is Man. And so his bragging about his "achievements" on any site available. Thus I happened to know that he was working in Philininian directions as well. I can't say if he made a trip there already, it was couple of months ago and I really didn't pay attention. We may ask him, but he has the serious issues with truth and his lady, or just one of them, is a member here. Remember his reports on his last year sex tourist trip - he got out of her blanket, kissed her goodbye to go on business trip (out of company pocket) and went to see and "try" somebody else. And she told him, she knew his little secret, kinda red-red flag for a decent woman, isn't it, yet love is blind, I know, or the bait is big (on other side of the border - remember
there are no decent beauty salons in Beaver Fall). So it's quite possible, that he kissed his fiancee goodbye again to drive miles and miles to Colorado on a business trip, but somehow detoured to Philippines or elsewhere. Why, not American women banned him forever from dating area here, it's getting harder and more expensive to get a new Slavic flesh, and then they run away from this American dream, so he's developing a new strategical direction. Some old men don't want, no I don't want to generalize here, this particular guy probably don't want to admit ED due to aging etc., so he's always in search for a new flesh to get "help". Just happen to have a boss long time ago in my part of the world that was trying to get same type of treatment from every young woman under his supervision by threat to fire her.


The pot is really boiling, as looks like Kuna's got thick and tired of obvious lies and brainwashing and making fools of everybody here and dedicated a thread to cross-examination  and Neo developed a very funny Turbodairies  It's getting over personal - I can't imagine how many decent women were cheated, hurt and damaged in every way during his past 11 if not more yrs. Unfortunately, I am aware of too many FSUW/AM marriages ending ala mode I trusted him.

[SANDRO43]

I am as you say here FSUW... complimenti... Dio mio...Rossa

For a FSUW, you seem to be strangely fond of Italian ??? .

[ElaRossa]

For a FSUW, you seem to be strangely fond of Italian ??? .

Strangely for a European man not to know that speaking foreign languages in Europe is quite common unlike here in states.

[wxman]

ElaRossa,

Congratulations on becoming a citizen! If you could do it all over again, would you have made the same journey to US? I'm not talking about your ex's betrayal of you (as that can happen anywhere), but would you have made the same journey knowing some of the difficulties you encountered? I know this has nothing to do with this topic, so no need to answer if you feel it is out of place.

[SANDRO43]

Strangely for a European man not to know that speaking foreign languages in Europe is quite common unlike here in states.

Since I speak 4 European languages, your oddly defensive answer is not quite to the point. As far as I am aware, the study of Italian is not as widely practiced in the FSU as that of other major foreign languages.

Ma forse il tuo è un caso particolare, e ami la lingua di Dante ?

[ElaRossa]

Well, I can't say much for the vice-versa part but of course it is not out of the question.  It is a big world sometimes and can be a very small world sometimes.  I guess time will tell.   Can someone help my memory, was there some discussion of a beauty shop in Beaver Falls?   I can't remember any.

I think KenC mentioned something like what you are going to do in Beaver falls and beauty salon in one of his numerous discusions with you fiancee # ??? It might be useful to you to re-read their debates. BTW, I am sure that such a well travelled businessman has no problems with my so called European freshness.

I recall that one AM I used to know very briefly who wasmarried to > 20 yrs younger FSUW had to bring her to NYC to do her nails for $ 80.00 + tip and she was not happy. And I understand both of them - it was not about a lust, he was just trying to prove her that NYC or not the type of beauty-care services we were accustomed in FSU were not available here.
Some men here criticize AF for their looks, but there is no such a high level industry devoted to beauty care like in Europe. If there is something it's overpriced and poor service.

Sandro, probably every other manicurist in FSU is speaking Italian as she's got her craft training in Italy and her beauty salon owner was payng for it in a rat race competition. Still price would be significantly lower and variety and level of services way higher.

That is one of the problem that is common here, AM are attract to well trimmed FSUW but when we come here elementary trimming is an issue in many ways. One Canadian lady I used to know mentioned me that her friend from Ireland was still keeping a little apartment over there to come twice a year to do her hair.

So, Turboguy, this may be one of the problems to face besides the age gap.

[ElaRossa]

Since I speak 4 European languages, your oddly defensive answer is not quite to the point. As far as I am aware, the study of Italian is not as widely practiced in the FSU as that of other major foreign languages.

Ma forse il tuo è un caso particolare, e ami la lingua di Dante ?

Diamo del TU ?

[SANDRO43]

Sandro, probably every other manicurist in FSU is speaking Italian as she's got her craft training in Italy and her beauty salon owner was payng for it in a rat race competition.

How interesting, it opens up new, unexpected vistas to my quest . However, I understand they now prefer to call themselves nail-care artists.

Diamo del TU ?

Con piacere, diamoCI pure del tu .

[jb]

Ela, 

Maybe something got lost in the translation, but I don't really know much more than squat after several more of your posts regarding Turbo.  If you are going to lead us along with fuzzy statements, and inferred comments, we need to know the truth behind these statements.  Do you have hard evidence of these infraction,,, or not?  As much as I abhor T/G's methods, I won't sit by and watch a tar and feathering job without evidence.

Please explain yourself here.

[ElaRossa]

ElaRossa,

Congratulations on becoming a citizen! If you could do it all over again, would you have made the same journey to US? I'm not talking about your ex's betrayal of you (as that can happen anywhere), but would you have made the same journey knowing some of the difficulties you encountered? I know this has nothing to do with this topic, so no need to answer if you feel it is out of place.

Thank you.
It's too personal but I'll try. It's lost and gain situation.
I have not come for the country but for a certain person. It turned out to be a tragic mistake
and I paid the incredible price. On the other hand, besides too many real bad things I experienced a lot of great things. I would not be able to survive in my situation if not some great American folks I was so luck to meet.

My coworkers united their forces in discreet fund-raising including bake goods sales and yard sales etc. and granted me with a check for citizenship application fees. I am still recouperating from all the parties we had at work 2 weeks ago   They said it was an honer for them and I am trying not the fail their trust and respect.

[I/O]

I won't sit by and watch a tar and feathering job without evidence.

T'was thinking similarly.  Turbo might have his way out methods, but he DOES deserve a "Fair Shake" as any other member does. Evidence please?

I/O

[ElaRossa]

Ela, 

Maybe something got lost in the translation, but I don't really know much more than squat after several more of your posts regarding Turbo.  If you are going to lead us along with fuzzy statements, and inferred comments, we need to know the truth behind these statements.  Do you have hard evidence of these infraction,,, or not?  As much as I abhor T/G's methods, I won't sit by and watch a tar and feathering job without evidence.

Please explain yourself here.

Give me at least a couple of weeks, please.

[jb]

Ela,

I'm old, and in a couple of weeks I will have slept once or twice, and being old, my memory is not as sharp as it once was,,, either put up, or shut up.

[Turboguy]

Well anyway congratulatons on getting your citizen ship applied for.   You have come a long way and I am sure the struggles were very difficult for you at times.  I think you can be proud of yourself. 

[Vaughn]

Ray, you're unbelievable. Unfounded accusations fly your way and the sender
gets congratulations and praise. If a stranger smashed your headlight with a
crowbar, would you thank him for not knocking out the windshield as well?

[Turboguy]

Well I suppose so and if he smashed my windshield I would thank him for not smashing my head. 

[Gator]

Ela,

Two weeks?  The attention span of most of this group is two hours on a good day, and a few remind me of rabid chihuahuas.  Please give us a hint as to what you could possibly share in two weeks.

I am sorry for your personal misfortune, whatever it was.  It seems that old fashioned American neighborly spirit has helped you, for which you warmly express your gratitude.  

My guess is that you are probably a decent woman who got deceived and betrayed by your ex-husband.   Is it possible that you see something in Turbo that reminds you of your ex-husband?  

If that is the case, perhaps you are painting Turbo with a broad brush.  Maybe?  Not all men are deceitful.  Turbo has some faults as do we all, yet he seems as honest as the average person here with one notable exception (and I will not start that debate again).  For certain he is humble, cheerful and self-deprecating, not an arrogant slimeball.  Presently, you must forgive some of his actions because he has been shot by Cupid and the spell is lasting a long time.  I would tell him "Act Your Age" but I fear that would be waste of my breath.

And BTW, everyone is welcome at RWD.  It is an inclusive club.

[ElaRossa]

Ray, you're unbelievable. Unfounded accusations fly your way and the sender
gets congratulations and praise. If a stranger smashed your headlight with a
crowbar, would you thank him for not knocking out the windshield as well?

He's just trying to play nice as he's trying to figure out:
what I know,
how much I know,
how I got to know
who I am
does he know me
etc.

[jb]

ElaRossa,

Are you the ex-fiancee from the Phillipines?  First hand information would be helpful here.

[Gator]

JB,

No, she said she is FSUW.  And in a post from July she talked about Kharkov water.  She is not an idiot.