SCAM & DECEIT gets more refined - READ THIS PLEASE!!!

[Rvrwind]

It means you have the brain of a 42 year old man so use it!

I'd have to say that is alledged,not writtin' in stone!!!

[catzenmouse]

Why is someone always wanting to know how young they can go because they look much younger? If you're 42 but look 30's so what?

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So if you're 42 and look 30's it does'nt mean you can date 18-25 year olds. It means you have the brain of a 42 year old man so use it!

I really have to laugh when I see somebody say I'm XX age but I look 10, 15, XX years younger. These guys need to meet my friend Reality as they have been listening to that old dog Fantasy far too long.

Most folks just don't know the equation to use. If they say they're 42 but look 30 you just subtract the lower number from the higher number and you get their actual brain age. In this case the thinking is being done by a 12 year old. Makes sense once you know how the numbers work. 

Ken

[Shadow]

OK.. this forum is getting interesting. I have a quik question for SEREBRO...
What would a ladies ideal age be for me, I'm 42 (but I'm alway's told I look in my 30's). I'm considering doing some International dating, but I'm starting to think twice here.

Ideal would be 65. But with age gap that rarely is seen. 

If you are going to be serious first read around the FAQ, and ask yourself it you have the guts, cash and nerves for it. The horror stories will come later, by the time you are getting paranoid from reading the letters.
Make realistic criteria. As far as age is considered, I would say not lower than 28.

[objuan]

WOW!! This forum is really tense!! CALM DOWN PEOPLE!!
I was just asking a simple question!! Don't bite my head OFF!!

For everyones information I do know my age, and I'm very proud of being 42!!
I have no delusions of being younger, I lived (and am living) a long, fruitful life.
And I don't think like a 12 year old KEN!! Seems to me that your the immature one.
You don't know me!!

Trust me, I get it with these Foreign "fiancee's", you have bad apples, but I refuse to believe they're all bad. Yes, of coarse most of them would like to have a better life and what's wrong with that!!! Don't we all!!

I do believe 19 is way to young, I think for a man my age 27 and up would be perfect. And another thing for those of you who disagree, what's wrong with a man wanting a younger wife?? As long as the woman is willing and able, why not.

Gentlemen, what do we have to lose? like they say "THE GREATEST RISK IS NEVER TAKING ONE!!" We just need to learn from our mistakes that's all.

Worst case scenario, guys you can always turn to the "WORLDS OLDEST PROFESSION"

Just one more thing if you will bare with me, I have a quick story...
There was this girl I was i love with, her name was Melanie, she was gorgeous, she was around 19 years old and I was 27. I guess she thought I was too old for her or something because she wouldn't give me the time of day. I kept running into her and I made it clear I would like to go out with her. Again she was very beautiful,  gorgeous body and very innocent looking, but the problem was she thought she was too good for me. OK, so anyway, about 5 years went bye, I ran into her at club in Downtown Los Angeles, I ALMOST DIDN'T RECOGNIZE HER! Oh yeah, she wanted to give me the time of day now, but by this time I've already made my fortune and she looked like someone that came out of "TALES FROM THE CRYPT", she was over weight (extremely), full of tattoo's and her face looked like someone beat her with a baseball bat (repeatedly). I DON'T THINK SO!!! My point is, many of these model types, to die for types have a very short window, they too get old!! They will get up one morning after SCAMMING poor bastards all there pitiful lives and find that no one is going to want them or need them. THAT'S A FACT!! Some of us guys do mean well and want a good woman, especially after a life of raising hell, it's time to settle down.

I do apologize to the wonderful women out there, but some bad apples screw it up for everyone.

[catzenmouse]

Hey Dude,

 See the smiley face  means it's a joke.

 You may want to rethink who is the tense one with that kind of a reaction.

Good luck and I think you're going to need it.

Ken

WOW!! This forum is really tense!! CALM DOWN PEOPLE!!
I was just asking a simple question!! Don't bite my head OFF!!

For everyones information I do know my age, and I'm very proud of being 42!!
I have no delusions of being younger, I lived (and am living) a long, fruitful life.
And I don't think like a 12 year old KEN!! Seems to me that your the immature one.
You don't know me!!

[Shadow]

Trust me, I get it with these Foreign "fiancee's", you have bad apples, but I refuse to believe they're all bad. Yes, of coarse most of them would like to have a better life and what's wrong with that!!! Don't we all!!

Some of them do not want a better life in the financial way.

I do believe 19 is way to young, I think for a man my age 27 and up would be perfect. And another thing for those of you who disagree, what's wrong with a man wanting a younger wife?? As long as the woman is willing and able, why not.

The man is willing and the woman able in some cases. 

Worst case scenario, guys you can always turn to the "WORLDS OLDEST PROFESSION"

How many apple pickers are there in the FSU ? 

Hope to have made it less tense 

[Gator]

Objuan wrote,

You don't know me!!

True, we do not know you.  You are certainly welcome to participate with the rest of us.  You would benefit from introducing yourself in the introductions section.

Another point, you do not know us.  You asked a question about appropriate age difference, and everyone here is sick of the topic from thousands of repetitive, frequently inane posts in concurrent threads.

Please visit the archives and type in "age gap" and "age difference" and similar keywords.  Read what it says.  I am certain any question about age difference will be answered in the archives.  Do not complain if the answers are conflicting.  After that, please come back.  Maybe by then we will feel better and will address your question.

For a temporary answer to your question, it seems you are too focused on youth and beauty.  If you are indeed interested in settling down as you claim, how about an attractive woman, smart as a whip, with family values and willing to roll up her sleeves and put some effort into her marriage?   What's wrong with that combination?  There are thousands and thousands of women in the FSU with that combination.  Clue:  They are not the ones showing their ass in their photos and hanging out every night at the disco club.

But before you go face these lovely damsels, you better have your act together.  Do as Shadow says, read the FAQ.  You say you are 42, but to me you talk like a 30-yo.  If you were 42 and talked as if you were 50, you may have a chance with the better examples of these women. 

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[neo]

Gator

i tried to live chat to that 18 year old girl with her ass hanging out of her dress, she was having none of it.

i must be losing my touch

[Shadow]

Gator

i tried to live chat to that 18 year old girl with her ass hanging out of her dress, she was having none of it.

i must be losing my touch

Must have been those sunglasses.

[wxman]

News alert! Latest US study shows AM prefer women who look hot, and hot AW prefer men with money. I love dumb studies by the masters of the obvious. 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295741,00.html

[Mir]

FSU-R

Do you know that in Ukraine after the Orange revolution the president came up with an idea to encourage Ukrainians into having more children. The campaign had slogans like:'"Ukraine is short of Nobel Prize winners, footballers and astronauts. So people, get together and make love!"
The main incentive is that for each child produced the government coughs up $1,500.
You are lucky that your fiancee had not thought of using this method to make money otherwise you would have had one or more children by now

[Shadow]

FSU-R

Do you know that in Ukraine after the Orange revolution the president came up with an idea to encourage Ukrainians into having more children. The campaign had slogans like:'"Ukraine is short of Nobel Prize winners, footballers and astronauts. So people, get together and make love!"
The main incentive is that for each child produced the government coughs up $1,500.
You are lucky that your fiancee had not thought of using this method to make money otherwise you would have had one or more children by now

$ 1500 for 6 months being unable to meet prospects ? If she wanted to get $250 a month she could get a job. 

[Mir]

For slim, 19 year olds it only shows in the last couple of months so she can date till then.

[Mir]

And I wonder what job in Kharkov pays $250 per month to a 19 year old girl?

[neo]

It was alleged that girls were having their photos stolen by hookers sites, now im starting to think husband hunters are stealing photos of hookers.

im not sure if she wants a job as a lapdancer or a potential husband/sex tourist but there seems to be some sort of agency war on as to who can get their girls the most naked.

[SANDRO43]

It was alleged that girls were having their photos stolen by hookers sites, now im starting to think husband hunters are stealing photos of hookers.

Quite... or they may really be hookers posing as husband hunters, see this thread on what I call Double Dealers (http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=1598.0) .

[ScottinCrimea]

FSU-R

Do you know that in Ukraine after the Orange revolution the president came up with an idea to encourage Ukrainians into having more children. The campaign had slogans like:'"Ukraine is short of Nobel Prize winners, footballers and astronauts. So people, get together and make love!"
The main incentive is that for each child produced the government coughs up $1,500.
You are lucky that your fiancee had not thought of using this method to make money otherwise you would have had one or more children by now

Actually it's not a one time cash payout but a series of vouchers over time good for various things for the child, discouraging women frm having a baby, getting the cash and then dumping them in an orphanage.  this was in place before the Orange Revolution.  IIRC Yushenko tried to get this subsidy reduced after the Orange revolution but there was too much protest.

[Mir]

Maybe it is different where you lived.

A woman I met in Kiev last month with a 6 year old child told me that a payment of $1000 to each new mother was introduced by Yuchenko. She was upset that no such payment existed when she had her son.

An article I read told me about the Yuchenko government's plan to try and reduce the population decline. One of the steps was to introduce an 8000 UAH payment to each new mother.


But then, of course I cannot argue with you about such things as according to you I am one of the failed ones and you(perhaps) consider yourself a successful one 

[Turboguy]

It sounds a little to me like the plant a tree program we have here.

They realize how much money is brought into the country by men seeking to marry Ukrainian women and they want to reforest the country to make sure the next generation of has a good crop of brides to choose from.   Makes a good investment in the future.

[Muj]

FSUrookie,
Good to see you finding reality.  After reading your of $ advance for her school costs it appears she readily scams for the money.  Sorry for your prediction.  Still someone that young is unpredictable in most cases.

[FSUrookie]

To coin a phrase from Arnold Schwarzenegger;
"I'll Be Back!"

I LOVE CHALLENGES.....

[FSUrookie]

So, the moral of my story;
Anyone, regardless of looks, physique, money, wealth, personality, age, etc., can get screwed in the FSU dating scene. And as said in other threads;
The whole process of finding a suitable and compatible FSU wife is not as easy as much of the "FSU dating industry - agencies" hype promises, but with persistance, patience and educating yourself to the whole process, it can be a (more) successful journey, with less pain and heartache.....

[jb]

FSURookie,

You've just said a mouthful of truth... I just hope some other rookie reads and heeds.

[FSUrookie]

Hello to all....
Well, my experience with Maria Ryzhkova from Kharkov has certainly been a wake-up call for me. Sometimes, we have to learn the hard way before it sinks in our thick skulls.... Perhaps my story will give others more insight into how a young and immature FSU woman plots her course, or should I say "Stalks her prey"......
Well, anyway here's a letter I received from Maria today.....
Moral of my story: "BE CAUTIOUS WHEN DATING ANY FSU WOMAN, AND USE EXTRA EXTREME CAUTION WHEN DATING ANY FSU WOMAN UNDER THE AGE OF 25 OR SO!"
With that here's her letter;


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryzhkova Masha" <mashaukr@yandex.ru>
To: John
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:47 AM
Subject: Hello John!

 Hello my dear John! How are you?

 I am so nervous, and I feel so bad about our situation! I hate myself! I
cant understand what is right and what is wrong!

 Please dont hesitate about what I told you, about Kim. Just I needed to
help my friend. Thats it! I was engaged with you! How could you think that I
could meet with him because I wanted? You must know that I was 100% pure to
you! Please understand this! My mom has influence on me! But of course she
cant decide all instead of me, because its my life, so I ll decide
everything!

 I dont know, maybe you hate me!We shall see what ll happend. Because I am
sure I ll never meet again such a great man like you!

 Be good!I dont want promise anything, just time ll show. Hugs and kisses

 Maria

[Gator]

John,

Be strong. No rushing back.     

Her letter is more mature than what she wrote before.  It sounds as if Mama did not like you.  Perhaps Germany was a lie also.  Who knows?  How much do you care to know?

For now, you have a new mission in life.  Find someone who will tell you about Kim before it happened (if Kim is indeed as she claims).  Such a woman is someone who you will trust.  Trust is more important than gravity defying breasts.

If you do decide to pursue UW again, perhaps a brief meeting with Maria six months from now, among meetings with  others, will reveal more about her and you.  However, think about others.