Interracial relationships - Do they really/ever work?

[rwdrwd]

I, more or less, come under the reticent category. Just wondering if russian women are open to interracial relationships?

[William3rd]

There is a lot of discussion in archives on this issue. In part, it depends on the race part of the inter racial. Some races or mixes do better than others. Darker complexions do not do very well in Russia but can be successful if they prepare in advance.

Recommendations have been made to write ahead and establish communications. Those that are open to it will respond.

Romance tours are pretty much a waste of time for the inter racials although the tour operators in general claim the opposite.

[BillyB]

Just wondering if russian women are open to interracial relationships?

Most are probably not open and you'll have a more difficult time to find a lady in the FSU compared to a Caucasian man, but there have been some marriages I've read about between Black, Hispanics, Asians, and Arabic men to FSU women. All you could do is try and maybe you'll find a lady interested in you.... or your wallet.

[steve74]

From people I know they tend to be short term and they seem less likely to work long term for some reason.

[rwdrwd]

From people I know they tend to be short term and they seem less likely to work long term for some reason.

I guess that some reason is "Society". I started talking(e-mails) to a girl who seem to be interested in me but have to wait and see if she is playing me or just curious or something.

[I/O]

If, as many who start the international search for a partner, you are looking for a simpler way to find a life partner, you are pretty much wasting your time thinking about Russia for an inter racial marriage.  Some of the southern FSU states may be worth searching. This is an extremely tough row to hoe under any circumstances and add colour mix to that.................well, go figure.

Nevertheless, it is possible as a handful of couples over the years will tell you, but again, I would suggest there is far more simple options to consider. If you are seeking the Creme' del la creme', then IMO Russia is unsurpassed. You will find plenty of "Curiosity shoppers" who will probably meet you, but that will be about as far as it goes. My wife seems to think, you would waste your time, buy many dinners, have many photos made and ...... nothing.

I/O

[Jack]

 William brought up an excellent point, tours are mostly a waste of time. So is buying of addresses.  My recommendation is a minority should run newspaper ads.  Ladies who are not prejudiced will write or call.  He would continue to run ads until he feels like he has enough ladies to visit.

[mdforme]

YES, YES and Yes!

Sorry if this comes too late but it might help others who may be wondering

I am a blackman successfully married to a Russian woman for 2 years now and our only child (first for both of us) is 4 months old.

My preference has always been for Caucasian women. Even here in America, people do not think a white woman would marry a blackman but the trend is more acceptable now than it was a few year ago. It took courage from individuals on both sides to make it happen, you cannot rely on what naysayers tell you. Not too long ago it was a crime in America-remember Loving Vs Virginia (1959). It erased the antimiscegenation laws in America!

The parents were nice to me and welcomed me to their home from day 1, her mom has visited with us 4 times now.

Like every thing else that is "not mainstream" you have naysayers, so it depends on you. I will tell you that when I asked the same question at the AFA they discouraged me and referred me to South America. However, they have had some black men go through them too.

I was not discouraged because I knew of a few black men married to Russian women, the parents were also said to be supportive.

If you have the means and the will, you will be successful and do your home work like every one else and of course you will find those who like blackmen. It is not a needle in a hay stack issue or you could argue finding the right partner is one of the same complexity.

Goodluck and let your heart, mind and God guide you to the right woman .

[streklor]

Alot of people say mixed race couples won't work because you are never united with society: like a split identity or something - two sets of cutural values or something. but look at los angeles, diversity and race mixing works great there.

alot of people say that diversity is just a political slogan that politicians use to splinter america into competing groups which can help them get elected but at the expense of the common good and common culture, but I say diversity is what actually created places like los angeles.  of course i'm joking, but you really need to be sure not to get suckered into the new liberal political agenda and be used by them: they are actively promoting the production of mixed race babies!!!    

i actually never was concerned with someone's suntan until i was continually told that secretly in my heart i want to smother myself with sunblock or something.  i could care less about your suntan, but you need to go check with the diversity cops because they are running around telling everybody the two of us are looking for a fight. you seem smart enough to know the difference, but i have encountered enough that aren't so.......  looking for choices here.......

[streklor]

Ironically, your real problem now is the climate created by the diversity chanters and politically correct folks who want to capture your swing votes.  they have created a climate of distrust, and have been told that you and those who hold traditional values are at odds.  essentially they create the fiction that you are unassimilabel in the "old" america.  actually you could have been.  those are your problems stateside.  most russian girls can't help themselves but imagine that the same racism you guys would hit there would be at the same levels in the US.  you will have to convince her los angeles is ok. but it will require a leap of faith.

every time you go back to russia there will be some hassle, or possibility that something bad will happen.  it just does not make sense for you to look for a wife there.  the girls will be interested because your different, but only in a curiosity sense, if you find a girl to marry you there is no possible way she will be very good looking because the good looking ones can get good guys already and you would be a major inconvenience and possible risk in their life.  if you want to fool around maybe go there to do that. but if you are looking for a wife you will end up a worse woman than you would get here.  you are better off going to brazil or columbia and you will end up with a better wife.  i'm not saying you won't get laid, but a good girl over there would never marry you.

[Simoni]

Alot of people say mixed race couples won't work because you are never united with society: like a split identity or something - two sets of cutural values or something. but look at los angeles, diversity and race mixing works great there.

Not true at all, Streklor.  We are NOT saying that mixed race marriages in the US do not work.  

The voice of experience here at RWD does not oppose interracial marriages.  What we are saying is that girls in the FSU (as in living there right now) are not likely to be interested in a black man.   It's different there than it is here.  Girls there are not as open.

BTW-- "A lot" is two words, not one as you wrote it.  Sorry--pet peeve of mine :-) LOL

[streklor]

simoni you wrote:

BTW-- "A lot" is two words, not one as you wrote it.  Sorry--pet peeve of mine :-)

neither are -- dashes or :-), but you took the time to write them......  also what do you mean the voice of
experience??????  thats me, because you have not even started your russian lessons with me!!!!! but don't worry i can help with your
run on sentences in english when it's time to take that much time.....

but i'm glad we are both giving him the same advice.

[BillyB]

DAN THE ADMINISTRATOR GAVE ME A WARNING BECAUSE OF MY POLITICALLY INCORRECT JOKES AND POSTINGS, REVIEW MY POSTS!!!  THEY ARE ALL JUST TONGUE IN CHEEK - SARCASTIC, BASED ON TWO POLITICALLY CORRECT POSTS BY OTHERS - not that it's the end of the world but I thought I'd let people know

I've read your posts in a few threads lately. I have to agree with Dan. What I find amusing is the people who walk the streets in protest, have to tell the World of all that was done wrong to them, and cry when they feel they've been punished for trying to get other's worked up by telling others good RW will never marry the guys that go to Russia. Surely you have enough brains to know you were going to piss off a lot of folks who are RW and men who have a relationship with one? Your excuse for saying all that is you being sarcastic? BS.

[streklor]

thats just the scientific truth of what is going on over there. but you guys got me. he is the administrator. but anyways i'll speak more in line with how things are done here.  older american men seeking russian brides is the most politically incorrect thing (well i'm 37 and usually my girls are in their 20s early 30s) so i may be a little different than alot of the older gentlemen on this board.

it's true a really good looking women won't MARRY another race b/c she can get better.  you said the same thing a while back and you picked up on that without knowing anything really about russia b/c you can't even speak russian

[LiveFromUkraine]

thats just the scientific truth of what is going on over there. but you guys got me. he is the administrator. but anyways i'll speak more in line with how things are done here.  older american men seeking russian brides is the most politically incorrect thing (well i'm 37 and usually my girls are in their 20s early 30s) so i may be a little different than alot of the older gentlemen on this board.

it's true a really good looking women won't MARRY another race b/c she can get better.  you said the same thing a while back and you picked up on that without knowing anything really about russia b/c you can't even speak russian

I think you are on the wrong forum.  This isn't russianprostitutediscussion.com.  Sounds like you are like a guy from another forum who does the "hobby" or what we call prostitution.


Thomas

[Simoni]

i may be a little different than alot of the older gentlemen on this board.

I give up on this guy (or girl).  He misued "a lot" again.   

[BillyB]

I give up on this guy (or girl). 

It's actually kinda funny just watching him go around telling everybody to gladly accept his brand of non politically correct statements but when he gets a non politically correct spanking, he's the one crying and screaming the loudest! 

[acrzybear]

I smell yet another troll.  With all of the trolls showing up here lately I wonder if their natural habitat is being encroached upon to build strip malls or something.

[Jazzyclassy]

I actually was scared of this streklor , very agressive tone and I also still can not figure out if it is a boy or a girl

[Phil dAmore]

Most are probably not open and you'll have a more difficult time to find a lady in the FSU compared to a Caucasian man

Bill, just for clarification we might wish to note that to a RW, a 'Caucasian' is what she would call 'The Blacks' because they hail from the Caucus regions.

Gets mighty confusing if you don't know about it ahead of time

[BC]

I've seen inter-racial+social relationships work in the strangest places... among them Germany and deep redneck southern USA.  One fact that stands out though regarding western/FSU relationships, is that the vast majority, whether white, black, yellow or red will be left hanging 'high and dry'.  Regardless of race, in this quest success stories are a minority.

You can only slice a piece of pie so thin.. so why worry.

[Christian]

I've seen inter-racial+social relationships work in the strangest places... among them Germany and deep redneck southern USA.  One fact that stands out though regarding western/FSU relationships, is that the vast majority, whether white, black, yellow or red will be left hanging 'high and dry'.  Regardless of race, in this quest success stories are a minority.

You can only slice a piece of pie so thin.. so why worry.

I strongly agree with this observation whether it be the relationship of Heidi and Seal or "Southern" interracial marriages between hispanics or blacks.

I knew a woman years ago in Philadelphia who had two sons by a black husband.  The boys were very polite and generally well behaved.  But this woman told me in confidence once that she may have made a mistake - although admittedly she expressed a real preference for the Afro-American male.  The father was no longer in the home.  She said that one day she was sitting in a room with many of her husband's relatives and it dawned on her that she was the only white person in the room.  I think she was referring to the social aspect.

My sense is that in America such relationships exist and are tolerated but that most blacks (male or female) as well as whites, hispanics, or asians by and large prefer their own kind.

Interracial marriages are the exception and not the generally accepted practise.

Christian



 

[Christian]

I might also add that the U.S. Goverment has declared Ebonics as a separate language - wholly distinct from English.

In addition, The cultural gulf that exists between the African native and the Afro-American is quite large.

It is almost unheard of that a Hispanic or Asian participates in interracial marriages either between themselves or with Afro-Americans.  Only during the Vietnam war era is evidence of this seen.

Christian

[Simoni]

I, more or less, come under the reticent category. Just wondering if russian women are open to interracial relationships?

Guys, I have a different take on this from the answers being provided.  This is not about interracial relatioinships in the US.

Rather, read again.  The thread creator asked  if "russian women are open to interracial relationships."

So the advice I am giving honors that, and assumes we are talking about women living in the fsu now and how open they are to interracial relationships."

By a vast majority, from my observations, they are not.

[SANDRO43]

to a RW, a 'Caucasian' is what she would call 'The Blacks' because they hail from the CaucASus regions.

I've always wondered who came up with that silly definition, since I don't much look like an Armenian, Azeri, Chechnyan, etc. What is out of some PC in the 1960s, along with Afro-American, to avoid the presumably offensive White/Black distinction ?

BTW, at the time I got married, the documents to be produced to obtain a marriage license included a copy of my original birth certificate. When I got it, I was surprised to see that I was classified as pure Aryan, born of parents also of that "race" (in 1943, Nazi-inspired racial laws were still in effect in Northern Italy, and whoever was not Jew was a "pure Aryan" by default ).