Why are you looking for RW\UW?

[Marusya]

Well...I understand that if i read more attentively all the posts here I'll find the answer. But I'd like to receive concrete answers.
How and when did u decided to search for RW?
Why RW - not European women or women from Latin America?
It's not an idle question. Once I asked this question my friend from chat. He had relations with girls from his country, then he found RW (through dating sites) and met with her for a long time. Now he is looking for another RW and he can't answer me this question. Or maybe I don't understand?!
Please explain!

[carraig]

Well Marusya,
I,ll jump first! I spent my 50th birthday touring Thailand and Vietnam. While in Thailand I met an American guy and his stunning Ukranian wife several times socially.
When I mentioned that I was currently single, the lady suggested to me that I should look on the dating web sites for a nice lady from Ukraine that would make a good wife for me (her words)! She even wrote the loveme.com web site adress for me to try at an internet cafe, that was the very first time I had ever been on a dating web site! I was amazed at the amount of very attractive ladies that were there. Ekaterina talked to me for many hours about life in Ukraine and how she had met her husband Bill and they had been married for 8 months and known each other just over two years. She very flatteringly suggested that I was worthy of a younger lady!
I did not have many problems attracting ladies, but the pool available unfortunately was reducing in what to me was quality, in terms of looks, attitude and character, basically overweight western women who seemed toi think they were doing me a favour by  going out with me, sorry if that sounds a bit shallow, but thats how I fealt!
So, after weeks and weeks of looking through thousands of pics and profiles, I found myself always checking the profile of the lady in my avatar above! I wrote letters to her through the agency for 6 weeks, booked a flight, organised a lift to, and an apartment in, Kherson Ukraine and met Ola!  So far, we have got on like a house on fire, I have never fealt attraction for latin American ladies, but have had several Thai girlfriends, so I was more than able for any possible scams! But I can honestly say, I have not been this happy for years!
Hope that helps!

[BillyB]

Why RW - not European women or women from Latin America?

I think Slavic women are the best looking women in the World. That is why. But of course I want a woman with brains, charm and character too. I found one in Uzbekistan. She's wonderful and a real sweetheart. Click here and flip through the pages to see me and my fiancee.

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=1303.0

[Kuna]

To add some breadth to the answers I can confirm looks and physical appearance had something to do with my decision but the root of my interest comes from the fact that I have Ukrainian heritage and I believed I would feel more comfortable (culturally) with a UW.

I'd been married to an English girl and in all honesty I was never really comfortable. I felt like the love in that family was always a forced and false. 

I had a four year relationship with a Scottish/Chinese girl and while I found the Chinese culture fascinating I wasn't prepared to put up with the drugs and party culture that is very much a part of a "modern Australian womans" life.

Since finding My Girl and ESPECIALLY since she has moved to Australia I haven't only felt more comfortable - I can relate many of our special moments back to how life is... or was... in my family as I was growing up.

There's no BS... If something needs to be said it is said... but the love and commitment we feel and share is something that I wouldn't ever want to live without.

Let's be honest though....  many men won't recognise that before they travel to FSU.  Most will be seeking someone much more physically attractive than they could ever find at home.   

Oops... who said that?

[Gator]

Marusya,

It is much easier to brag about our RW than give you a plausible and definitive explanation.  Maybe that is the explanation. 

All women are wonderful.  A long time ago I had girlfriends from Sweden, Peru, Iran, Scotland and Denmark (not at the same time  ).  So I have an international spirit.

Nevertheless, when it became time to marry and have children, I married an American woman.  We were good together, not great.  Inevitably, we grew apart after 25 years of marriage.

I made a 30-day combination romance/travel trip to Russia/Ukraine over 5 years ago.  For some reason I get along with RW/UW.  We like each other.  RW/UW are beautiful, smart and fun.  I never returned seriously to American women.   There was no need to go to other countries because everything was ideal in Russia. 

One gorgeous Moscow woman has connected with me in six special ways:

-  We have become true friends (she calls me her best friend),
-  Her spirit is very similar to mine,
-  Her values are consistent with mine,
-  We function together as partners,
-  Her children and I are close, and
-  Her goals are aligned with my goals. 

If you asked me 10 years ago if it were possible for all six to occur with the same woman, I would answer "No".   Somehow it happened.   I feel very comfortable in mentoring her in her future new life.

[Jazzyclassy]

Marusya now you listened to all the flattery things about Russian and Ukrainian women

now the whole real truth about it ahahhahahh

Why they are looking for RW/UW ? cos all the best women in their countries are already taken and in Russia we have tons of women  beautiful smart educated kind -still available ))

Well to be serious I think all mentioned factors are the reasons for searching women abroad, plus financial stability of some american people they are so damn rich that they are completely bored with things in America they 've done this they've done that , they are totally buggered they want some exotic thing,  yeah they do have money but they do not have happiness, so they think that if they find some Russian woman , she will make him happy- maybe ......

[Kuna]

Why they are looking for RW/UW ? cos all the best women in their countries are already taken

... ior are too young to be serious about!   

Well to be serious I think all mentioned factors are the reasons for searching women abroad, plus financial stability of some american people they are so damn rich that they are completely bored with things in America they 've done this they've done that , they are totally buggered they want some exotic thing,  yeah they do have money but they do not have happiness, so they think that if they find some Russian woman , she will make him happy- maybe ......

Harsh but probably true!

Jazzy... some people criticise you at times but you read the situation pretty well most of the time...

[Mir]

they are totally buggered they want some exotic thing

JC

Have all the American men been buggered or only the ones that look for an FSU wife? 

[Gator]

Mir,

I am a AM and have never been "buggered".   

It is not me.  I leave that for all the public school boys in jolly England.

[Nando]

For me, the reason was very simple.

Lack of women who can be a good candidate in terms of looks, personality, character, and education after my last relationship.


Why not from South America for instance?
Well I think RW are more European in terms of thinking then, lets say Brazilian women.
while they speak the same language then me, I prefer RW and think they are closer to me, at least my GF that is

[Mishenka]

Speaking only for myself and what I was looking for in a woman.  Russian women have it all. The complete package I look for.  My standards have always been high.  Russian women also have high standards.  Most of them excel at just about everything they set out to do.  They are well educated and have a hunger to learn.  Very few American women, regardless of physical appearance can keep my attention for more than a few minutes into a new relationship/ first date.  Russian women have the intelligence,  the ability to keep conversation, the charm, wit and can be very humorous.  They are very artistic, easily fascinated with things and make life fun.  They can be calculating and cleaver.  Not to mention astute. 

I have to mention their inner beauty first because to me that is most important.  The fact that the FSU has a high popultion of beautiful women is just the icing on the cake. FSU women are the only ones that have the ability to keep my head from turning.  Believe me they watch what direction your eyes are looking.  Mine are always looking at them.  Men, if you want your women to know she is beautiful, just let her watch your eyes scan up and down her beautiful body and face as you smile... she will know you are pleased with how she looks.  Hint: always look into her eyes start to finish,, and don't sit too long in one place,, especially there,, she will know what you are thinking,,,,,, :-)  OK where is " there?"  two places on a woman body,, I don't think I need to point them out.   One more thing,,, yes it is true, FSU women have pride in themselves and  take very good care to always look their best.  Hint: Men is she needs anything from the beauty supply house,, do not hesitate to buy it for them.  :-)  Hint#3 never mention anything you do for them.  It is expected from a loving husband and you never want to brag about it.  How will she know you really love her if you are not taking the best care of her? Protecting her etc. Silence can be a virtue when it comes to your RW lover. Feel free to brag about how wonderful she is, just don't over do it and be sincere, she can easily tell the difference between honesty and patronizing.  You reap what you sow,, you can not out give these women.   Hint #5   RW's can read your mind so be careful what you are thinking.  They can read you like a book.  I hope its a good book!  All the best,

Misha

[Marusya]

Carraig and BillyB ur ladies r really beautiful!)
thank u for answers

[Marusya]

Really good comments! After it I'm very proud that I'm RW

Jazzyclassy gave the best answer as usual))).
and it's true for AM that RW can make their lives bright and happy!
but the same way as inbearable:))

And I have another question. How about the language bareer in ur relations? Is there any problems 'cause of it?

[Misha]

My wife and I speak Russian so there is no language barrier per se, but there is of course a question of culture shock and integration. It is not easy for my wife to learn a new language (English) and it means a lot of stress for her.

[Marusya]

My wife and I speak Russian so there is no language barrier per se, but there is of course a question of culture shock and integration. It is not easy for my wife to learn a new language (English) and it means a lot of stress for her.

And what are the most surprising and difficult things for ur wife in ur living there?

[Misha]

Language: she did not speak any English when arriving. It was difficult for her to adjust as she was used to having many friends and working in her language. Now, she has some Russian friends, but it is not quite the same thing.

[KenC]

Marusya,
There are a few of us here that did not make a "search" in the fsu for our wives.  Some were working there and others met by chance internationally.  I "met" my wife while searching the Net on something about Russia.  Lots of marriage agencies popped up and I was curious.  As I was single at the time, I was open to relationships with their roots on the Net as I had met many AW that way.  I didn't necessarily want a Russian wife or really any wife at that time in my life as I was enjoying my bachelorhood.  But I was open to meeting good women regardless of their country of origin.  I will however admit to being intrigued by RW because of my Russian heritage and it did make it easier to go to Russia to meet my wife of 8 years because I always did want to go to Russia.

At that time I had no concept of the virtues of RW or the difficulty of obtaining a visa for them.  I did develop a phone friendship with my now wife after many many phone calls.  She was fluent in  English so language was not much of a problem for us.  At that time, I had no ill will toward AW as I had nothing else to compare.  As I said I was enjoying my bachelor lifestyle and the many AW I dated.
KenC

[Simoni]

Marusya,

I met an girl from Moscow through my work, and had a one year relationship with her.  It was good, but did not result in marriage.

But I liked many things about her and her culture, so while working in Europe, I stared dating girls there by traveling over to eastern Europe and Ukraine, because no visa was required.  My goal at the end was simply to have fun with the girl I was dating.  But I met one special girl, and after dating her a year, I brought her home with me.  That was 15 months ago, and now we are both very happy.  Before meeting Marina, I can't say I believed in soul mates and one special person for one guy, but the happiness we have experienced makes me think about that some more :-)

But to answer your question, it was not the country, but the girl that mattered to me.

[Globetrotter]

Marusya,

I was like Ken as I was looking to supply heavy equipment to the Russian oil and gas industry, and was looking for contacts there, and an interpreter when I went.  I finally determined that there were people in Russia I didn't want to do business with, but in the process got an email from a girl who said she could be my interpreter, and exchanged a few letters, then photos for curiosity.  She was 46 (I'm now 56) and very pretty, and she wanted to meet me even if I did not do business in Russia.  In the process, I found Russian dating sites.  I said to myself...this is the greatest singles bar in the world, but costs $2000 to walk in the door.  We met in Cyprus for the first time...and her English was so bad, we needed to write some words (nouns and verbs) on paper to get the idea of the subject of the conversation.  But, she was fun, and funny, and very pretty, and we had a great time.   Things didn't work out with us for many reasons, but I saw how many available women were willing to meet...and that was 5 years ago.

I think I'm in good shape, so are the women there.  I know our friend here...Jack, will say that FSU girls are the greatest in the world.  Maybe, maybe not, but certainly worth a look.  I am not "filthy rich" but am comfortable, so I can afford a dinner date in Samara, or Kazan, or Larnaka, or Budapest, Odessa or Minsk. and have no problem doing this.  One of our favorite girls here...Lily, thinks that a guy who may like her...probably won't come to visit her unless he is coming to her/your part of the world...unless he is going there for business.  If I felt good about a girl, I would go anywhere to meet her.  

I have traveled for business for 30 years to more than 50 countries.  Russia, Ukraine, Belarus is easy.  Try Chittagong, Bangladesh... Dharan, Saudi Arabia... Iran...the NWFP in Pakistan... Khandar, Afghanistan...Timbuktu, Mali.  Those are real tough.

What do I like about FSU girls?  What I have already mentioned, plus, they appreciate what you do for them, and they say so.  Direct and to the point is also good...that's me...kind of like "Gator"...difficult to live with, but loving, and honest, and faithful, and respectful.  

Do you think that looking for these qualities in a girl are easy to find?  Believe me, they are not!  So........this is a numbers game.  The more you meet, the better your chances.  If you have the money, and the temperment, acceptance, the willingness to be an adventurous spirit, if you have the social skills to succeed on your home turf, and some brass balls....you go after it.  

I have great respect for the guys here that have gone this route, or are about to.  But, you know, you must also have "boundaries" in that you can't be too optimistic because you "think" that it might work, because in this game you had better really be sure.  Know you can be in big, big trouble if you marry the girl next door, who you have known your whole life, whose parents have been friends for life, and you all go to the same church.  Now, throw into the mix...a different country, culture and language...and watch the sparks fly!

I am probably one of the most conservative guys here, but would rather be happy and single (which I am) than face a judge with my FSU wife wanting a divorce.  But, if I find the right, good, honest, loving, caring, sharing girl, with no kids, or 2 or 3 or 5, I'll be married "before God gets the news"....well after I get to know her....and she should be 45 to 55.  

Just my thoughts on the subject, and good luck to all.

PS:  Lily, if you had just lied about your age...and posted that you were 45 instead of 40, we would be having dinner in your favorite Moscow restaurant right now.            

[Gator]

Globetrotter,

You seem like a well adjusted person. 

Perhaps a little rigid about age limits?  My Moscow lady and I have met Lily, and we both think she is a fine lady.  We enjoyed Lily's company immensely at afternoon tea (green tea for Lily and I). 

Regardless of age, the two of you could just have tea and chat about Russia's strategy to use its oil wealth, rather than military assets, to increase its global influence and power.  Or discuss whether Russia with its corruption and central government will be able to reshape its economy before the world discovers how to harness sustainable energy alternatives. 

If romance is not discussed, Lily would not need to break her age limits and go up to yours, and you could honor your limits as well.  Or, maybe the two of you bend.  Who knows?

[Lily]

PS:  Lily, if you had just lied about your age...and posted that you were 45 instead of 40, we would be having dinner in your favorite Moscow restaurant right now.            

Could you please be so kind to make a reference on my words where I told my age? Thanks.

[Globetrotter]

Gator, you are very funny.  I think of all who post here, I enjoy yours the most, and think you are very introspective, and we are similar in several respects.  I was in Tehran in late 78 and saw the place coming apart just before the Shah left...at the InterContinental on Kennedy Blvd.  Had an AK 47 magazine emptied at me, but luckily was 30 yards away, and he was a bad shot, plus jumping over the stone wall in the park helped me also....and when you're 28, you think you're bulletproof!  

I don't post much here, but did when Patrick ran the board.  I was, back then probably more of a...well, kind of intolerant.  I don't contribute here when a guy states that he's 42 and dating a teenager...and tries to guess what went wrong.

I already knew Lily was a great girl before you telling me that you spent time with her.  She doesn't know, but I look for a suitable guy for her here and "champion her virtues", but so far no luck.  Just imagine trying to tell a "Yank" the benefits of this endeavor.  I'm sure you have.  Only those who have been there can know the benefits as well as the pitfalls.  Oh, I also drink green tea.

Regards

      

[Globetrotter]

Lily, you probably did not, but sombody did, so that's how I remember... and I just thought how pretty you were.  Sorry, you will need to read the archives to know who, when and how.  Hope you are well.

John

[Globetrotter]

Lily, I think remember, it was commodore Tiger Paws.

[Lily]

Globetrotter, I don't need to know who did  am not interested in this at all. 

I just reacted to your words where you told that I may be somehow lying about my age, and my reaction was that to the best of my knowledge I did not told this on RWD at all, so I cannot be lying. That was my point.