Just another example of why I am no longer interested in AW ...

[Mishenka]

You have all made it clear to  myself and the rest of us that you are not reading my post completely,  statistics or otherwise.  Last night at midnight I took this to a new thread. For some unknown reason you all keep it going here. That's the only thing I don't get.  The personal attacks are useless against me Give it up. I simply don't care.

Some of you seem concerned about my recent breakup with Tanushka somehow clouding my judgement?  I'm fine. She's fine.  I am more concerned about my job and making a living.

Some of you have challenged the references used to compile these stats,, take it up with the ones who wrote them.  I have nothing to do with gathering the info. You have all the links. check them out.

Timothe, thank you for your concern, I'm fine.

To the others: None of my posts are about who's right or wrong its about making people AWARE,  clearly, there are too many who are not aware.  I'm not here to accuse anyone.  If you are convicted by something in these stats, seek a profession about it.  I'm not interested in your personal life, anymore than you are interested in mine. I don't know you and you sure don't have a clue who I am.

Kuna, never attack anyones Christianity but your own.  Look in the mirror before pointing fingers at others. Do you like what you see? Hopefully it is a reflection of Jesus Christ.  That's not who you just showed me in your post.  

I'm taking a rest, sure, I worked hard all weekend.    You all do the same.

Dan, when you have time, would you please remove my posts,  thank you.
Michael

[KenC]

why should I? your first post is enough to understand with who we deal... all next statements are only mental game that in Russia called "Я не такая, я жду трамвая"

Kvinna,
#1 We have a rule around here that if you write something in Russian, you must provide a translation.  Please abide by it!

#2 You completely missed "the point" in the opening post,  USCFAN is not making fun of the woman being fat, or at least that is not the main idea.  The main idea is that the woman is fat, but instead of doing something about it, she justifies being not as fat as other AW and then condemns men for wanting a woman thinner than her
KenC

[Kvinna]

#2 The main idea is that the woman is fat, but instead of doing something about it, she justifies being not as fat as other AW and then condemns men for wanting a woman thinner than her

What for a woman have to do something about a weight, if men aren't wanting a woman thinner than her?

[KenC]

What for a woman have to do something about a weight, if men aren't wanting a woman thinner than her?

Kvinna,
That is the whole point, dear.  We do want thinner women than her!  Most AW resent that we find them in the fsu.  The fsu is an alternative we never had before.  It is no longer a "take it or leave it" situation.
KenC

[mspanky]

 I compleetly agree with the fact noone has to put up with fat people if there are other options and they are not chubby chasers.   But in saying that I am a firm believer in practicing what I preach. If I want a thin woman, a fit woman,  there is no reason for me not to think I should not give her the same back.

    I think too many AM are seeing FW as a way of getting what they want, but trying little to be what she wants physically. They forget physical attraction is a 2 way street. She's gotta be physically stimulated too when she sees you're naked body. I have yet to meet a FW who preffers "big" men. In fact, I know quite a few men after marrying FW(from all over the world) will complain about the fact she tries to make him lose weight or wants him to. Well, what did they expect? If a fat person finds fat unattractive,so will a thin person.

[USCFAN]

#2 You completely missed "the point" in the opening post,  USCFAN is not making fun of the woman being fat, or at least that is not the main idea.  The main idea is that the woman is fat, but instead of doing something about it, she justifies being not as fat as other AW and then condemns men for wanting a woman thinner than her
KenC

Thank you KenC 

[thedub]

You'll read in my posts (before this little board tug-of-war with Misha) that my interest in AW has basically gone away because of many have a selfish, materialistic, shallow, feminist attitude ...

Hey, while we're off-topic... why don't we take up the term "feminist attitude" and digress on what that means?!

Nah!!! Just kidding! I think the abuse statistics and confusion about why Steve isn't interested in AW was more than enough of a bizarre digression. And to think this little ol' thread just got started with Steve's amused and anecdotal noticing of a typical American personals listing!

[ISORW]

so you are only after body, dude?

So would you suggest we only date people were *not* attracted to?  Of course we are not only after body, but the reality of the situation is if woman can has everything personality-wise but if she is 5'5 and 175 lb. there is no way I'd ever be romantically attracted to her.  If others out there would be then that's to their taste, not mine.

I don't think that was what USCfan was alluding to anyway...but without physical attraction all you have is a friend and not a romantic connection.

[mspanky]

I don't think that was what USCfan was alluding to anyway...but without physical attraction all you have is a friend and not a romantic connection.

 So true and I agree 110%. But I do believe most men who marry foreign women may be very picky in their wants and know what they find physically attractive. But the women have to be physically into you too. Unlike the angency BS these women don't care what you look like or how old you are. What abourt her romantic connection? Again one way street for many.

[ISORW]

So true and I agree 110%. But I do believe most men who marry foreign women may be very picky in their wants and know what they find physically attractive. But the women have to be physically into you too. Unlike the angency BS these women don't care what you look like or how old you are. What abourt her romantic connection? Again one way street for many.

mrSpanky, absolutely right.  Of course it's a two way street.  It's one of the reasons I've worked hard to stay in shape through the years (I still hit the gym 5-6 times a week for 1-1/2 hours each time) - I've always dated good looking women and my philosophy has always been that if I it's a good looking woman I want I have to offer something in return besides witty conversation...I've got fairly high standards so I make sure I bring something to the table as well so to speak.  If you can't give something of similar value to these women you want to be good looking she will surely find someone who will offer her what she wants after she's been here a while...

[mspanky]

In a  MySpace search you can see there are obviously beautiful women in the U.S(foreign and otherwise). They are just more difficult to get to know.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=134848795

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=111272285

[Misha]

In a  MySpace search you can see there are obviously beautiful women in the U.S(foreign and otherwise). They are just more difficult to get to know.

And, I would hazard to guess that they are less likely to put an ad on Craig's List to find a date.

[mspanky]

 I don't think beautiful women in the U.S. need to put their ads in dating sites. Though you can find a few beauties on the dating websites it'e prodominently the average ones who need to do it. Probably why so many guys are dissapointed with the choices.

[WmGO]

The most obese people in the nation (men and women) are definitely down here in the South.

Sad but true.

[WmGO]

The main idea is that the woman is fat, but instead of doing something about it, she justifies being not as fat as other AW and then condemns men for wanting a woman thinner than her

Since the subject of psychology and abuse has come up in this thread, could the above
phenomena be categorized as some kind of psychological abuse on the part of AW against AM? 

I am FAT and hear me ROAR!!!!!!!!!!! 

[djfourmonie]

Yep, exactly. You have YET to find her. The one who you described is married. And we are talking about single ladies who single AM can correspond and meet with.

After all there are several jewels like that on this board for what i know, but they are all married.  Except Lily. 

I didn't say ALL are fat. I said most of them, lots of them, and those who are not have something else wrong about them.

I can bet one can find the whole package much sooner in Russia than in the US, marry her and be happy ever after, that is of course if he is the whole package too, preferably.

Foreign women get a bit picky when they are here.... You nailed that one. So true.

 Just in the short time of reading your replies I couldn't agree more!

 Time is an issue... I am 37 (look 25 ask for a pic if you don't believe me) I would like to have children and I don't mean taking on a child from a previous relationship. I don't have to leave the country to do that.

 On top of not finding suitable women to date locally (yes mostly because they are obese) my attention has turned eastward and not just FSU but mainly Scandinavia. Reason being I don't need long drawn out Visa issues, but I haven't completely tabled women from FSU countries.

 In America my dating pool is in the lower 20's to early 40's range, with most of the interest in the early to mid 30's range. Its pretty much the same in Western Europe, its just the fact that women from Europe tend to take better care of themselves, even after child birth.

 Many of the woman in this age bracket already have children in either country so that's a wash. But on a daily basis I know my chances of dating and marrying a woman 10-12 years younger than me is much more likely outside of the US than inside.

 No sense beating my head against the wall.

 I don't seem to be the elk of most of the posters here. I'm a normal working guy. I don't have a college degree, yet I don't struggle with my bills and I have job security.

 You are 100% right that the hottest (or the ones that think they are hot) are gold-diggers and social climbers. What does that leave me? The waste product of bad relationships, failed marriages, unstable mentalities and overt religious views.

 Sure I can find and have found in the past some middle ground but as I get older I am falling deeper and deeper into a position to where I might have to give up the idea of being a first time parent. I don't want to do that, so I am looking for solutions to my problem(s).

 FSU seems to be the problem solver...



 

 

[djfourmonie]

I used to subscribe to match.com, I still get emails from them every day.
Here is a sample of what I could choose from in DFW area.

 Ha! My Match.com selections looks like that as well...

 2 of them are BBW's... The rest are okay if you looking for somebody in their 40's! I am not.
 
 Hey how come you get more Black Women in your matches than I do? Maybe because I am highly restrictive maybe??

 95% of my matches are Caucasian on purpose, but I still get BBW's and those pushing 40.

 Interesting...

 

 

[Simoni]

  I am 37 (look 25 ask for a pic if you don't believe me)
 

Here we go again.... the number one statement made by newbies.

[mspanky]

Well,

 Let's see if he's actually telling the truth! Put your pic up djfourmonie. You said you would if someone asked! 

[Serebro]

Ha! My Match.com selections looks like that as well...

 2 of them are BBW's... The rest are okay if you looking for somebody in their 40's! I am not.
 
 Hey how come you get more Black Women in your matches than I do? Maybe because I am highly restrictive maybe??

95% of my matches are Caucasian on purpose, but I still get BBW's and those pushing 40.

 Interesting...

 

 

Hm, interesting... in another thread you told that you are Afro-american...I can understand why you look for Caucasian girls in the FSU(because there are not so many Black girls here), but it seems to be strange to me that you put the same criteria in your local search...

[djfourmonie]

Here we go again.... the number one statement made by newbies.

 

 

[djfourmonie]

Hm, interesting... in another thread you told that you are Afro-american...I can understand why you look for Caucasian girls in the FSU(because there are not so many Black girls here), but it seems to be strange to me that you put the same criteria in your local search...

 Let me put that another way...

 The best looking black girl I saw recently wasn't born a woman and I'll leave that statement where it lies.

 If Jay Z can pull Beyonce and goofy ass JD can pull Janet Jackson, I should be able to come pretty close to that on a reality level, but that isn't the case and not really possible either, let me explain...

 There's a host of other "issues" as well. Some would say "I'm not black enough" for example. Couple that with barely holding on to my "Ghetto Access Card" and I am not the kind of Brotha many "Sistas" want.

 My problems are unique and you can't compare them to yours, its not the same.

 Fat White Women like me, I have to leave the country to get away from that!

 

[mspanky]

 Ok DJ,

 You do look younger, but if you send your pictures dressed like that you will surely have a difficult time with RW. Tone it down and understand many RW will not be open minded about dating black men. But a few will be so that's all you need.

 As for only attracting fat white girls why is that? I've seen some black men in the U.S. with very beautiful white women. You have to ask yourself why you're attracting only fat ones. I do not only say that to you, but when a guy says that's all he attracts I have to wonder why.

 Much in the same way I look deeper into a woman who claims she only attracts losers or ugly guys. There is usually a reason for that as you look deeper into the surface.

   Realistically beautiful Eastern European women may be easier to attract in their country because of the lack of available good men. But when you bring them back to the U.S. you better have what it takes to keep her. Otherwise it'll be the same old story. She ,like the other hot women here want the types of men who the top  women compete for. All women want the best man they can get in their present environment. Be that man and understand 1 thing, if you can attract pretty women in the U.S. you then have something going for you and you may have an easier time keeping a hot Eastern European woman. Otherwise if   can only get fuglies you will get a temporary fix with a FW. She'll soon realize only the bottom of the barrel women will give you the time of day and begin to question WHY????

[Serebro]

 You do look younger, but if you send your pictures dressed like that you will surely have a difficult time with RW.

why is that?!

[pitbull]

Well, DJ, I have totally nothing against you...
But, after you've revealed some facts about yourself, let me summarize the situation here:
We have a 37-year-old black guy, no college degree=doesn't make a lot of money, barely lower middle class maybe (you haven't mentioned your profession)