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[Mir]

Jb

When there is no way to argue with logic, start personal attacks.
Unfortunately for you, I am not going to fall into your trap. So keep the abuse comming
 

[SANDRO43]

I as under the impression that Turks spoke a language from the Turkic language family

Correct, JB, and "the earliest known Turkic inscriptions are found in modern Mongolia". Turkic languages are not classified as Indo-European.

somewhat similar to Persian

... while Farsi is.

Anyway, modern paleolinguists rely far more on syntactic/morphological similarities (more "permanent" aspects of language) than on lexical/phonetic aspects, when attempting to trace the lineage of a language. Not that this is a foolproof method, e.g. the attribution of Japanese and Korean (see map) to the Altaic family is hotly disputed by some .

[Makkin]

  Thanks,

  Ste,JB,Turboguy,and Sandro.

  I suppose the basque would be hard due to the unknowns and such?

Makkin

[jb]

Anyway, modern paleolinguists rely far more on syntactic/morphological similarities (more "permanent" aspects of language) than on lexical/phonetic aspects, when attempting to trace the lineage of a language.

I actually know several of these guys in my work.  They always try to educate me beyond the simple facts.  However they are working in the American Native Indian languages, not in asiatic-indo stuff.  They try to couple southwest native tribes by language commonalities i.e., Apache, Navajo, Zuni, Southern Pueblo, etc., not the stuff you are talking about.  But I'd guess it's a similar field of study.

Interesting stuff.

[Hub]

I wrote:  "So she is just one of those who have a hard time getting going either with talking or with writting."

Blues Fairy wrote:

In my opinion, having a hard time writing cannot really be an indication of the level of the lady's interest but surely an indication of her level of development.  Easy written expression has a lot to do with a person's powers of abstract thinking.  That said, a slow writer can be very "into" her guy - she is simply... slow.  :-) If that's not a turn-off, there's no need to read other things into it.

Blues Fairy, thanks for your comment, if you were responding to what I wrote.

However, her 'slowness' is not a factor in this case.  The lady has IQ of around 130 or more.  Just adds more to my frustration at her sparse writing !!  :-))  Note:  She writes fairly freqently; just not very much in any given message.

[Blues Fairy]

If I understand correctly, if someone writes less often, it is most likely due to the fact that they are "slow" mentally, they have lesser powers of abstract thinking and a lower level of development.
Before I make any comments on this, BF, please tell me if I have understood you correctly.

No you have not.  Writing less often does not indicate anything except the lack of free time perhaps.  I meant the overall ease and quality of written expression, which you must accept IS an indication of a person's mental development. 

My fiance wrote about once a month and we were in correspondence for 3 years.  I have no complaints about his level of development.

[ScottinCrimea]

thanks for the clarification.

[SANDRO43]

they are working in the American Native Indian languages, not in asiatic-indo stuff.  They try to couple southwest native tribes by language commonalities i.e., Apache, Navajo, Zuni, Southern Pueblo, etc., not the stuff you are talking about. But I'd guess it's a similar field of study.

Yes, and similar basic methods are applied the world over.

Interesting stuff.

Fascinating IMO, and full curious facts and surprises: for instance, you owe the language you're speaking ultimately to Attila the Hun, and so do the French their name and their (Germanic) Rs .

I suppose the basque would be hard due to the unknowns and such?

What "unknowns" ?

[jb]

Fascinating IMO, and full curious facts and surprises: for instance, you owe the language you're speaking ultimately to Attila the Hun, and so do the French their name and their (Germanic)

Yes, I read somewhere that about 800-1,000 years ago English and German were the same language.  You have no idea how much that pissed me off.

[Vaughn]

Way back in the beginning AJ wrote:

The reason i made a post about it, is I felt new guys need to realize some RW
simply dont like to  corresponde either.
It's just not *them*, it's not thier style.

(my wife is an example,she just does not enjoy writing,at all,
and in correspondence would come off as quiet,not very responcive to questions,
and  reserved ,basically appear *not interested*
yet, would talk your ear off on the phone  and be completely open about everything and very engaging)

That's exactly how it was with us, although I do enjoy writing. She did not - it was not the
act she disliked but the logistics. Having no computer at home, being a single parent, and teaching
full-time, the trip across town was at times impossible. I used to read others comments like "Well,
she couldn't care about you too much - MY lady visits the agency every day and spends hours
writing me long letters!" Well, fine. It just wasn't our style after I got her phone number. The live calls
not only covered more significant ground, they revealed spontaneous emotion, sense of humor, and
meaningful tone. Careful wordcraft tends otherwise, at least for us...

Off topic somewhat but I'm tickled at the Russian word for "vacuum cleaner" -
it basically translates to "dust sucker". 

[Makkin]

Hello Sandro,

  Is it known where the Basque people come from? Is it a mystery why the DNA of them is different from others in a significant way?

  It may not make sppeaking and learning the language an unknown or even matter but is there a lot not known about them or have I swallowed bad information?

Yours,

Makkin

[BillyB]

the whole thread was started just to point out there are plenty that won't.
you paint a picture of RW anxiuosly sifting thru emails.

its a picture that is accurate for some RW,certainly not all.

I'd say 99 out of 100 women I wrote to did not give me "exceptional" correspondence. Maybe they did not like writing but most likely they had good, some, or little interest in me. If they had the hots for me, they'd give me more attention but probably decided to give other men more attention. I suspect most men end up with relationships with women who had "some" or "good" interest in them during correspondence. To find the 1% of RW who'd give you exceptional correspondence because they have the hots for you, you must sort through lots of women or be lucky.

One university gal was all into me and said she would like me to call to tell me what I though about her English so she sent me her mobile number, home number, and dorm number at the university without me asking. I tired to call all three numbers but no success. She said "thanks anyway" and quit writing me. She probably thought I didn't have serious interest in her so she did not waste any time moving on. But she did give maximum effort for the me until she suspected I did not return the favor.

Another woman wrote me two weeks after I sent out my intro letter. She apologized for responding so late because she was modeling in Europe. She was 180 cm tall and she was the #1 woman on many sites for awhile. She said she does not have much time for endless correspondence and it would be best to meet face to face. I told her I understood she is a busy person and since she is beautiful, I know she has many men writing her and has little time to respond to all letters. Then I told her I too am writing many women and will not visit any of them based on beauty alone, I need to know who they are as a person. I then told her if she will not give me a minimum of a month's correspondence and let me call her, I will not visit her. She wrote back and told me she found me a very interesting man! And will give me what I want. Since this woman was a real beauty and had many men drooling over her, she probably never had a man threaten to walk away and she respected me for it.

Of course there's many factors in judging another's ability or access when they write to you. Some women have kids to run home to instead of the internet cafe everyday. Many women can't afford the internet cafe. Many older women aren't internet savvy. But for the few letters they write if it's meaningful and willing to move to phone calls quickly, then you know you have a woman really interested in knowing you. Her being into you is the key. How many times we see newbies try so hard for a RW that he doesn't know exist and the communication is so difficult because she doesn't have or doesn't want to give out a phone number? If she was into a man, she would make it easy for a man to get to know her and she will try to attract him also.

Over the years, some people have criticized your spelling AJ and the way to write unconventional. But I can read to understand you have a good head on your shoulders, you're a good guy and a good catch for many women. Don't underestimate the power of the written word.

I remember MarkInTexas's story on how his now wife walked everyday, even through snow, to write him. She displayed exceptional dedication and motivation in trying to get to know Mark. Reality is most men will never find a woman like his but those women DO exist and men should try their best to find a woman like that.

For online romance, the first step of many steps is writing. It's best men or women to use that tool wisely before figuring out who you want to call and then meet. I do not promote endless letter writing but to use letters to gauge the interest of the person writing you and know when to hold and know when to fold.

[Christian]

I'd say 99 out of 100 women I wrote to did not give me "exceptional" correspondence. Maybe they did not like writing but most likely they had good, some, or little interest in me. If they had the hots for me, they'd give me more attention but probably decided to give other men more attention. I suspect most men end up with relationships with women who had "some" or "good" interest in them during correspondence. To find the 1% of RW who'd give you exceptional correspondence because they have the hots for you, you must sort through lots of women or be lucky.

One university gal was all into me and said she would like me to call to tell me what I though about her English so she sent me her mobile number, home number, and dorm number at the university without me asking. I tired to call all three numbers but no success. She said "thanks anyway" and quit writing me. She probably thought I didn't have serious interest in her so she did not waste any time moving on. But she did give maximum effort for the me until she suspected I did not return the favor.

Another woman wrote me two weeks after I sent out my intro letter. She apologized for responding so late because she was modeling in Europe. She was 180 cm tall and she was the #1 woman on many sites for awhile. She said she does not have much time for endless correspondence and it would be best to meet face to face. I told her I understood she is a busy person and since she is beautiful, I know she has many men writing her and has little time to respond to all letters. Then I told her I too am writing many women and will not visit any of them based on beauty alone, I need to know who they are as a person. I then told her if she will not give me a minimum of a month's correspondence and let me call her, I will not visit her. She wrote back and told me she found me a very interesting man! And will give me what I want. Since this woman was a real beauty and had many men drooling over her, she probably never had a man threaten to walk away and she respected me for it.

Of course there's many factors in judging another's ability or access when they write to you. Some women have kids to run home to instead of the internet cafe everyday. Many women can't afford the internet cafe. Many older women aren't internet savvy. But for the few letters they write if it's meaningful and willing to move to phone calls quickly, then you know you have a woman really interested in knowing you. Her being into you is the key. How many times we see newbies try so hard for a RW that he doesn't know exist and the communication is so difficult because she doesn't have or doesn't want to give out a phone number? If she was into a man, she would make it easy for a man to get to know her and she will try to attract him also.

Over the years, some people have criticized your spelling AJ and the way to write unconventional. But I can read to understand you have a good head on your shoulders, you're a good guy and a good catch for many women. Don't underestimate the power of the written word.

I remember MarkInTexas's story on how his now wife walked everyday, even through snow, to write him. She displayed exceptional dedication and motivation in trying to get to know Mark. Reality is most men will never find a woman like his but those women DO exist and men should try their best to find a woman like that.

For online romance, the first step of many steps is writing. It's best men or women to use that tool wisely before figuring out who you want to call and then meet. I do not promote endless letter writing but to use letters to gauge the interest of the person writing you and know when to hold and know when to fold.

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Christian

[SANDRO43]

Off topic somewhat but I'm tickled at the Russian word for "vacuum cleaner" - it basically translates to "dust sucker".

It's aspirapolvere with us . Oftentimes new products are initially called after their makers/inventors: the fridge was called 'frigidaire' when first introduced, then became a more staid 'frigorifero', and the ball-point pen is usually called 'Biro' or 'Bic' rather than the more formal 'penna a sfera'.

[SANDRO43]

Is it known where the Basque people come from?

All sorts of hypotheses have been made, including Atlantis . There seems to be general consensus on their being the descendants of the earliest settlers of the Iberian peninsula, some also mentioning Neanderthals as their ancestors.

Is it a mystery why the DNA of them is different from others in a significant way?

Just Google 'Basque DNA' for the results of a long list of studies conducted on this. Not being a geneticist, I'm not really qualified to make any comment.

It may not make speaking and learning the language an unknown or even matter but is there a lot not known about them or have I swallowed bad information?

As JB hinted, Basques are not a very outgoing and comradely people, possibly for historical reason: there were a lot of armed foreigners traipsing all over Spain over the centuries, and they may have wisely decided to retreat to the quieter mountain areas of the northern Pyrenees, raise sheep and keep their own counsel ("Loose lips sink sheep", you know ).

[I/O]

the Russian word for "vacuum cleaner" -it basically translates to "dust sucker". 

There is lot's of them out there.

I/O

[Makkin]

  Thank You Sandro it's always great to learn from your vast knowledge and experience.

Makkin

[Shadow]

It's aspirapolvere with us . Oftentimes new products are initially called after their makers/inventors: the fridge was called 'frigidaire' when first introduced, then became a more staid 'frigorifero', and the ball-point pen is usually called 'Biro' or 'Bic' rather than the more formal 'penna a sfera'.

That is why for a long time the product was called a 'hoover'.

[pk-uk]

I have little experience of letter-writing over a long period of time - I always visited within three months of the first letter - but surely it's communication and the content of the communication that is important rather than whether it's a letter or even whether it is 'frequent'.

I must admit, I do remember one girl who never wrote more then two lines and disregarded her.  Mainly 'cos it was hard work and I never got any answers to questions.  Others wanted to communicate through on-line chat, others a phone call.  Thus, any e-mail tended to be short and for making arrangements.

The only extended period of communication I had was 15 months with my now-wife.  Phone was out.  She moved and didn't have one - and in any case her English was nowhere near conversational.  Letters by post were a waste of time - I don't think any ever arrived.  So it was e-mail through an agency.  Average once a week.

e-mails weren't necessarily long, but I made sure I asked questions in each e-mail and usually she asked questions of me (and I don't mean what have you been doing type questions  ). It served it's purpose in getting to know each other.  Now I just get 'post-its' with shopping lists or instructions not to forget to phone the dentist etc etc 

PK

[Makkin]

Sandro,

  I'm off topic here and apologize...

  Sent National Geographic my fathers cheek swab for DNA results as they needed the male to do so and the oldest. The sent me my DNA path from thousands of years in a map form and told us what country our DNA was most closely matched on those first numbers etc..and the actual closest relatives and such in our modern times.
  I have the same number identifiers as 85% of all British men and some parts of Scotland. It shows where we traveled from and through the FSU or rather our DNA did..lol

Makkin