Ask me, I've done it! and have been married for 3 years happily!

[Eduard]

Possum,
I couldn't respond since they limit PMs to 5 per hour...but what you told me was hysterical!

[Admin]

OK, isn't this forum sponsored by people connected to agencies in one way or another? Look at the advertising here! I looked at your site too and it seemed to me that affiliate program referring traffic to agencies is what the site is focused on as far as the revenue goes. I might be an idiot as you are trying to portray me but I"m not the only idiot who can clearly see this as indicated by other members who contacted me privately.
If this is supposed to be a public forum why can't I say what I think?

Eduard,

Allow me to remind you of EXACTLY what you stated. You said RWD is an "agency driven forum".

NOW, you elect to crawfish and use the term "sponsored" - but that was NOT what you stated initially.

So back to your original claim. How is it that you believe RWD is "driven" by agencies?

Nobody is telling you NOT to say what you think - BUT - you had best be prepared to defend your claims.

So far, you seem to be more than willing to play fast and loose with facts. Now, I want you to clarify your claim that RWD is an "agency driven forum." Are you able, or is this another case where you are just firing for effect?

- Dan

[Eduard]

Eduard,

Allow me to remind you of EXACTLY what you stated. You said RWD is an "agency driven forum".

NOW, you elect to crawfish and use the term "sponsored" - but that was NOT what you stated initially.

So back to your original claim. How is it that you believe RWD is "driven" by agencies?

Nobody is telling you NOT to say what you think - BUT - you had best be prepared to defend your claims.

So far, you seem to be more than willing to play fast and loose with facts. Now, I want you to clarify your claim that RWD is an "agency driven forum." Are you able, or is this another case where you are just firing for effect?

- Dan

agency driven, agency sponsored, is there such difference? if there is please explain

[Admin]

OK, isn't this forum sponsored by people connected to agencies in one way or another?

Oh - and BTW. The answer to your question is 'No'.

Of course, I am using the conventional definition of the word "sponsored" - and I have no clue how you are intending it - or planning to change it later.

- Dan

[catzenmouse]

If this is supposed to be a public forum why can't I say what I think?

Perhaps you would have to show the ability to actually be able to "think" first. Sorry dude but you just SCREAM "used car salesman" in every post you make.

You have an absolutely great chance to be productive here and to possibly pick up a customer or two but you seem so much more interested in just plain being a pompous @ss with your made up statistics and not answering questions.

Ken

[possum]

Possum,
I couldn't respond since they limit PMs to 5 per hour...but what you told me was histerical!

Glad you liked it.. Maybe I'll share it with the rest of the board sometime!.

[Admin]

agency driven, agency sponsored, is there such difference? if there is please explain

Like I said - more games.

YOU used the term "driven" in your original claim about RWD. Did you NOT understand the use of the term?

- Dan

[Eduard]

in this context they mean the same thing to me - basically beeing enabled to exist and help market/promote sponsor's ideas/phylosophy
I actually don't see anything wrong with that. This is just another marketing tool for the agencies. But maybe you should also try this phylosophy: Live and let live?

[Eduard]

Perhaps you would have to show the ability to actually be able to "think" first. Sorry dude but you just SCREAM "used car salesman" in every post you make.

You have an absolutely great chance to be productive here and to possibly pick up a customer or two but you seem so much more interested in just plain being a pompous @ss (funny how that reminds me of another commercial interest that posts here) with your made up statistics and not answering questions.

Ken

I actually agree that I could be a lot more beneficial to many men who are interested in RW, Russian language and culture. And I would love to share what I know with a friendly group. But it seems like most of the time I have to defend myself, which started at the very beginning of this thread because I happened to ask Scott in Crimea why he preferred livin in Ukraine when he could bring his wife home to the US and live Western lifestyle that he was more acustomed to. That started an avalanch of screaming posts. But luckily there are sensible people here as well who do get me, and I did pick up a couple of clients from here already, thank you very much.

[Admin]

in this context they mean the same thing to me - basically beeing enabled to exist and help market/promote sponsor's ideas/phylosophy
I actually don't see anything wrong with that. This is just another marketing tool for the agencies. But maybe you should also try this phylosophy: Live and let live?

Really? Your definition of "driven" and "sponsored" - "mean the same thing"?!?

Somehow this entire exchange reminds me of a very old idiom:

Never Wrestle With A Pig ...

... you'll both get dirty, and only the pig will enjoy it.

When/if you ever rally the courage of your convictions to make a clear and unequivocal statement of your allegation - feel free. Until then, you've demonstrated your true colors on numerous occasions now.

- Dan

[Eduard]

OK this is a tough one, you tell me that I don't make sense, a negative, then you say that I make more sense than catzenmouse - a positive. I guess everything in this world is relative and standing next to someone like Albert Einstein many of us including yourself will look like an idiot...
I'm sorry that what I say doesn't make sense to you, it doesn't mean that I'm wrong though.
What I see a lot of is blind leading the blind, and that doesn't make sense to me...
but hey, thank god that we have this forum to exchange ideas...and insults

[Eduard]

hmmmm, it's interesting how you removed the post of someone who in his own way was suppotive of me. That's censorship at it's best!

[Eduard]

or worst??? now who is playing games and showing his true colors, Dan?

[Admin]

or worst??? now who is playing games and showing his true colors, Dan?

Sadly, there are those who seem unable to resist attacking others. When that occurs, it *is* removed.

There has been ample warning to everyone that the senseless attacks are going to stop - and they will.

- Dan

[catzenmouse]

I actually agree that I could be a lot more beneficial to many men who are interested in RW, Russian language and culture. And I would love to share what I know with a friendly group.

Perhaps you should start one.

But it seems like most of the time I have to defend myself, which started at the very beginning of this thread because I happened to ask Scott in Crimea why he preferred livin in Ukraine when he could bring his wife home to the US and live Western lifestyle that he was more acustomed to. That started an avalanch of screaming posts.

Okay dude, selective reading and selective memory seem to work very well for you.

But luckily there are sensible people here as well who do get me, and I did pick up a couple of clients from here already, thank you very much.

They have my sympathy.

[Eduard]

Perhaps you should start one.

Okay dude, selective reading and selective memory seem to work very well for you.

They have my sympathy.

Regretfully Dan removed the post about you by another member, I think that he was right on the mark with his comment about you.

[catzenmouse]

Regretfully Dan removed the post about you by another member, I think that he was right on the mark with his comment about you.

Good for you Eddy. And I think that you are a phony. So what? You can play all the little games you want here but this is not a forum filled with easy marks who will buy your plaid pants salesmanship.

By the way... Are you going to remove the statistics on your web site now? What? Sorry, I didn't hear that (again) non answer.

Maybe I should start a business like yours as well since I've been married 3 years too. Get the insecure to pay my way and I can put all sorts of made up statistics on my web site too. Nyah... too much effort keeping up the phony exterior and truth avoidance.

Good luck in your "business" and remember that the Edsel failed for a reason...

[Eduard]

I actually brought up a pretty interesting topic just tonight:
1. many beautiful, family oriented, serious girls do not post their photos on their profile. My wife being on of those girls. I thought that since the vast majority of men only look at a picture and base their decison "to contact or not to contact" solely on that, this would be an interesting topic to discuss.
2. the other day I posted my thoughts on why the statistics could be slented quite a bit away from 1:1 available men and women
I talked about a large percentege of women age 24 and up being ready for marriage. And the large percentege of single males 24 to 30 not being ready for any sort of serious commitment. Which changes the picture significantly.
Opossum was the only one who commented that it did sound just about right to him.
And he actually lives in Russia. Yet no one else had anything to say about that even though it was a valid point to discuss when talking about statistic of available men to women.

[Eduard]

Good for you Eddy. And I think that you are a phony. So what? You can play all the little games you want here but this is not a forum filled with easy marks who will buy your plaid pants salesmanship.

By the way... Are you going to remove the statistics on your web site now? What? Sorry, I didn't hear that (again) non answer.

Maybe I should start a business like yours as well since I've been married 3 years too. Get the insecure to pay my way and I can put all sorts of made up statistics on my web site too. Nyah... too much effort keeping up the phony exterior and truth avoidance.

Good luck in your "business" and remember that the Edsel failed for a reason...

there's nothing phony about me buddy. Everything I state about myself is true and when one of my former clients who is very happy with my service posted a comment here he was immidiately attacked for his spelling. What a bunch of BS that was! So he is Irish, that's how he talks and spells, so what??? he earns a six figure income and I bet his IQ is way higher than your's! And believe me he is far from a sissy boy who needed his hand held. But one thing he didn't want to do was to spend years searching and learning and wasting time and money on women who wouldn't be a good match and he understood that when you are looking for a foreign wife you better be damn sure you understand exactly what she is about and either learn Russian, find someone who is a fluent english speaker (which we all know is limiting your search immensely) or use someone like me who can help him accomplish what he wanted to accomplish in the quickest, most efficient and safe way. Obviously this will not sit right with you and you're going to come back with another insult. But frankly I don't care.

[Gator]

Eduard wrote,

I realise that this is predominantly a DIY community and agency driven forum,

Actually you are half correct.  Most men here are DIY types, using agencies just to make the initial contact via email.  In fact, many of the married men who actively participate at RWD never used an agency for the initial introduction (met using the same sources that you used, met during work, etc.)

my ideas are not very popular but please, don't knock it till you've tryed it.

Wrong forum to ask that.  This collective experience of this community is mind boggling.  When new ideas are introduced, or someone raises a question, or someone has a troubling experience, the membership discusses the issue.  As the discussion evolves, a pattern usually evolves.  You have seen the pattern of discussion regarding your service.  What does that tell you?  That we are all idiots or that you need to refine your program?  

you still can't substitute my experience of being born and raised in Russia, knowing Russian language as a native speaker, knowing and understanding the culture yet spending the other half of my life in the US. It's not a common place to be at, and some very smart men find that they benefit from my knowledge and experience.

Yes, your experience is not common.  But is it necessary?  I never needed it, preferring to go alone rather than have someone hold my hand, preferring to make my own decisions rather than have someone decide for me.   And if a man needs a local guide, or if a man needs an interpreter, such services can be obtained in Russia for a lower cost than paying for someone to make the trip with him on a 24/7 basis.  I strongly assert, based on my personal experience, that a man should not be romancing a woman with whom he can not communicate by himself. 

Opossum was the only one who commented that it did sound just about right to him.  And he actually lives in Russia. Yet no one else had anything to say about that even though it was a valid point to discuss when talking about statistic of available men to women.

What Possum said is a statement of the obvious.  I agree.  In fact, before Possum spoke, I said essentially the same - many of the RM are not serious about marriage. But it will not give you 8:1 or anything close to it.  

Eduard, as I told you 20 pages ago, one part of your package of services is very intriguing to me.  That is, your ability to search outside agencies.  In fact, if I were looking today for a RW, I would think about using you for that service, but for that service alone and nothing else.  I have a feeling, however, that in dealing with you I would become so frustrated or so weary of your hot air that we would not be successful together.

[catzenmouse]

No insult eddy just LMAO at you. Might be good to look back and see who insulted who... again nyah don't think you'd catch the clue so I'll just wish you good luck as I think you're gonna need it.

[possum]

What Possum said is a statement of the obvious.

It's good to know that someone pays attention to my signature..

[Eduard]

Eduard, as I told you 20 pages ago, one part of your package of services is very intriguing to me.  That is, your ability to search outside agencies.  In fact, if I were looking today for a RW, I would think about using you for that service, but for that service alone and nothing else.  I have a feeling, however, that in dealing with you I would become so frustrated or so weary of your hot air that we would not be successful together.

Maybe yes and maybe no. Chemistry is important between people even when it's a business relationship. I also turned down many men who I felt that we weren't on the same page with.
In reality if you knew me in real life I'm a very mellow, relaxed and fun person. My personality changes when I feel like I am being attacked though...as in here. I actually became good friends with many of my clients...

[Gator]

Possum,

Does Russia have O'possums?  The animal is not highly respected in America (perhaps its the hairless tail).  Yet, I find them interesting.  Nocturnal.  Grinning at me when I see them.  Eating my dog's leftover food (obviously fed him too much).  Possum babies riding on their mother's back.

[possum]

Possum,

Does Russia have O'possums?  The animal is not highly respected in America (perhaps its the hairless tail).  Yet, I find them interesting.  Nocturnal.  Grinning at me when I see them.  Eating my dog's leftover food (obviously fed him too much).  Possum babies riding on their mother's back.

I don't think so.. At least, I've never seen any around here, not during daytime.. I don't go out at night very often, though..