what do you RW think of this situation??

[mspanky]

mature women/boy toys

Do you think it's good role reversal? Or that these women are crazy and delusional?

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN2960019020080129?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true

http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=75875

[possum]

I'm not an RW, but I can tell you this is nothing new.. There have always been 'cougars' and younger guys who were attracted to them for one reason or another.. mostly the same reasons that are listed in the article.. Older women are perceived as experienced, smart, and having a great level of maturity.. and if they are accomplished, it means they've got balls.. Some younger guys like mature women with balls who also know how to stay attractive and feminine.. That's all there is to it, really..

[Lily]

This is a very personal taste, I think.

If we abstract from an idea of being together because of reasons other than love and mutual attraction, probably such couples really find something in each other.

I am not happy receiving letters from guys some 25-30 years old. Usually I would not pay attention to age, but when I look at the picture...Gosh, he is a boy Really, i can not even fathom being with a boy. My instincts are all against this situation. He is not my equal, that's it. His hard body cannot compensate.

[AnastassiaAsh]

Well, it's ala Anna Nicole only vice versa. But the difference is that when men do this it is considered so much worse and lower than when women 'sell' themselves. ...if there is any justification of it anyway... That's New York for you. 

[mspanky]

 My thoughts are if young good looking men living in a country with lots of opportunity can still be so desperate for money, then money may be so important to some they will go against nature to have it.

 Let's face it. Women have been known to be golddiggers because women know

#1. They may get stuck with children to raise and therefore choosing a man to marry who can financially support them in a good lifestyle may be smart planning. Love may not come into the equation.

#2. It's been thought men cannot fake sexual attraction as they are not bulit for it. But women sure can faker it and many do. Hence marrying a man they have no sexual attraction for is much easier done for a woman.

#3. Men are visual . But I must admit many women visual too. Yet, they are taking the money road over sexual attraction.

This situation in the U.S. is making me wonder if marriage will go back to being a "practical" union as it used to be before.

 I'm sure a lot of those "boy toys" will be cheating on older girlfriends and wives. The very same way the young girls cheat on their older husbands backs.

  It's all about the Benjamins to many people now.

[Eduard]

well, things can change...when I was 15 y.o. I was seen a woman who was 28, who lived in our apartment building in Moscow. She was beautiful and sexy, and i had my eye on her since i was probably 12 years old!!!
Then when I was 15 we met by at somebody's apartment, started talking and the rest was history...that was a beautiful affair until she saw me with an 18 year old girl who was my first love...
when I came to the USA (just turned 19) my first girlfriend was also 28. She broke up with me after a few months because her therapist told her that it wasn't healthy for her to have a relationship with a 19 y.o. boy. her therapist was probably right, because marriage or even a serious relationship wasn't on my mind those days.
After we broke up I briefly dated a 34 y.o. woman I met on the beach, who lived in manhatten. She invited me to a concert in central park and after the concert to her place...then she raped me...I loved it
then it was time to move to Boston where I went to college and there I met my 1st wife of 15.5 years who was only 18 at the time (I was 20)
My wife now is almost 20 years younger than me.
I noticed that when I was young i was more attracted to "older" women.
Now that I'm older, I'm more attracted to younger women...I guess that's the nature of the beast 
I personally think that age is just a number, and you are only as old as you feel.
People should be able to date or marry whoever they are most compatible with and shouldn't let society dictate what's right or what's wrong for them. It's an individual decision one must make for themselves.

[Blues Fairy]

Hmmmm! When I become an old and lonely hag, I will definitely hire a few supermodel boys to keep me company! 

[Eduard]

Hmmmm! When I become an old and lonely hag, I will definitely hire a few supermodel boys to keep me company! 

if that is what will make you happy - why not?
Although I wasn't talking about "hiring" professionals...I was talking about relatinships and marriage.

[Jazzyclassy]

No really  talking about a woman who is like 25 and a man is 65 that is normal according to the members of this site

But

a woman , who is 65 and a guy 25 is considered to be super ubnormal disgusting and repulsive

"nice" way of thinking

[Daveman]

While I certainly don't have the piping or the nationality to qualify for the RW perspective, my simple opinion is that if people would pay more attention to their own lives rather than inserting their noses and throwing stones at others, the world would be a better place.

Whether money is the underlying factor or not, if the two are satisfied with the arrangement then more power to them, everyone else can bug off.

If a lady 65 nabs a young studly toy for herself.. GOOD FOR HER! She can probably teach him more than a thing or two.

Will it become a trend? Highly unlikely...

[possum]

Funny this thread has come up again as I've got two older women fighting over me right now as I type this.. it's hilarious and scary at the same time..  ya never know what to expect from those cougars..  

[Eduard]

Funny this thread has come up again as I've got two older women fighting over me right now as I type this.. it's hilarious and scary at the same time..  ya never know what to expect from those cougars..  

well, for you even 26 is "older" so nothing to be scared of...tell them not to fight and learn how to share 

[Shadow]

If the 'golden rule' applies equal to males and females you can go up to 34 possum 

[possum]

tell them not to fight and learn how to share 

I did, and they called me a pervert..    but the irony of it is that they're both getting married soon to their respective bf's..

[possum]

If the 'golden rule' applies equal to males and females you can go up to 34 possum 

My personal cut-off for marriage is seven years either way, but I don't think there should be an age limit for dating and harmless flirting..

[Eduard]

I did, and they called me a pervert..    but the irony of it is that they're both getting married soon to their respective bf's..

that is ironic...and sad at the same time, because their future husbands have no clue that they are marrying a skank. Regretfully I've met a lot of women like that, particularly when I was young and living in Russia. They would be engaged to marry one guy because it's "the right thing to do" He is well off, nice job, apartment, etc.
And while they are waiting for the wedding day they are running around sleeping with every guy on the way.
One would be very wise to avoid those girls...The good thing is that there are very good, loyal women in Russia as well, and lucky is the man who can distinguish skanks from the good ones. Women are usually pretty good at recognising the difference, but with enough experience a man can learn how to recognise those little red flags that the skanks put out just as well...

[Gator]

Eduard wrote,

but the irony of it is that they're both getting married soon to their respective bf's..

that is ironic...and sad at the same time, because their future husbands have no clue that they are marrying a skank...One would be very wise to avoid those girls...

The question remains of how to detect such women.  Both have RM fiances who see them almost every day, and yet the fiances can not detect such behavior.  So how does an AM avoid them?  PLEASE do not tell me that you can read the RW's mind in a brief meeting.

My answer.  Go with a woman who overflows with wholesome values, is always available to talk with you, and is into you.  These take time to confirm.

[possum]

that is ironic...and sad at the same time, because their future husbands have no clue that they are marrying a skank. Regretfully I've met a lot of women like that, particularly when I was young and living in Russia. They would be engaged to marry one guy because it's "the right thing to do" He is well off, nice job, apartment, etc.
And while they are waiting for the wedding day they are running around sleeping with every guy on the way.
One would be very wise to avoid those girls...The good thing is that there are very good, loyal women in Russia as well, and lucky is the man who can distinguish skanks from the good ones. Women are usually pretty good at recognising the difference, but with enough experience a man can learn how to recognise those little red flags that the skanks put out just as well...

Well, I wouldn't call them skanks as they were more flirting WITH me than fighting over me, if you know what I mean.. I would never actually do it with a married/engaged woman 'cause it wouldn't be healthy, so it's all been just flirting on my part.. but you're right, there are 'skanks' out there who will cheat and fake affection for men who provide them with a nice lifestyle or just a stable income stream..

[Shadow]

And of course a RM are excused to have some of the 'skanks'at the side as they married one....

[Daveman]

Gator,

My answer.  Go with a woman who overflows with wholesome values, is always available to talk with you, and is into you.  These take time to confirm.

And,

My answer.  Go with a woman who overflows with wholesome values, is always available to talk with you, and is into you.  These take time to confirm.

and finally...

My answer.  Go with a woman who overflows with wholesome values, is always available to talk with you, and is into you.  These take time to confirm.

Nothing really to add...

[Eduard]

Eduard wrote,

that is ironic...and sad at the same time, because their future husbands have no clue that they are marrying a skank...One would be very wise to avoid those girls...

The question remains of how to detect such women.  Both have RM fiances who see them almost every day, and yet the fiances can not detect such behavior.  So how does an AM avoid them?  PLEASE do not tell me that you can read the RW's mind in a brief meeting.

My answer.  Go with a woman who overflows with wholesome values, is always available to talk with you, and is into you.  These take time to confirm.

great answer deserves a great question: And how do you know that all her overflowing is not just an act? After overflowing you with all her wholesome values and wholesome talking, showing you affection and telling you that you are the love of her life, she might be overflowing another dude with some wild and kinky sex.
I don't think it's a RW thing. It's a human thing. There are plenty of AW who would fit in this category of skanks, and if you ever happened to fall for one or two of those in you life, you learn to recognise the signs and the next one you meet will set off a bunch of red flags very early on, wouldn't you recognise those, Gator?

[mspanky]

Well, I wouldn't call them skanks as they were more flirting WITH me than fighting over me, if you know what I mean.. I would never actually do it with a married/engaged woman 'cause it wouldn't be healthy, so it's all been just flirting on my part.. but you're right, there are 'skanks' out there who will cheat and fake affection for men who provide them with a nice lifestyle or just a stable income stream..

 Posum,

  Apparently many men and women are willing to fake "affections" for a good lifestyle. But ultimately, they will sometimes be lacking in sexual attraction to the one who can provide that lifestyle. This is where someone on the "side" will do to satisfy them sexually. Most will never want to lose the "cash cow" for just a person they consider a fling.


 That being said youth seems to be preference for everyone male and female sexualluy. I'm noting older men and older women who want a young partner end up having to pay for it somehow. They have to spoil them and awful lot and be financially secure to attract such young ones.

 But young men and young women gladly give sex to each other for free. The young man need not be rich,take her to nice dinners or anything. He just has to be attractive and dress well and give her some attention. This happens in Russia, the U.S. and everywhere in the world. The much older partner is is viewed as practical,stable and insurance to the good life. rarely does sexual  attraction need not be there for women or MEN who place "security" at the top of their list.

[Gator]

Eduard wrote,

you learn to recognise the signs and the next one you meet will set off a bunch of red flags very early on, wouldn't you recognise those, Gator?

These two RM are not recognizing the signs. 

Having never knowingly dated a two-timer leaves only three options:  (1) I can not recognize the signs, (2) I never consorted with low women, or (3) it happened but I subconsciously blocked it out, or (4) I had my unconfirmed suspicions but opted to try to make the relationship stronger.  You choose the answer.

If a man spends enough time with a woman, the truth will become evident or irrelevant.

[Eduard]

And of course a RM are excused to have some of the 'skanks'at the side as they married one....

You don't have to take my word for it, ask Russian women. But men take it as a given pretty much there. My personal experience (in no way an official government statistic) most men that I know in Russia who are married have at least one or more women on the side. I've talked to some of these "girlfriends" and their philosophy is better to have a married man for a couple of days a week who will take them to a nice restaurant, buy them nice things and pleases them in bed, than the other 2 alternatives - just be alone or settle for some loser alcoholic. Like I said before, I don't know where are all those nice single RMs and apparently many RW don't know either, therefore they prefer to share rather than just being alone.
I believe that it's nature's way of dealing with the imbalance. There have been matriarchal societies I think in Asia somewhere where it was acceptable and common place for a woman to have a few husbands (obviously there were a lot fewer women than men in those societies)
Warning: Disclosure: I do not remember the source where I read it! but i did  read it!
If this sounds unbelievable to you ask anyone Russian and I'm confident that you will get the same or a very similar story.

[Eduard]

Eduard wrote,
These two RM are not recognizing the signs. 

Having never knowingly dated a two-timer leaves only three options:  (1) I can not recognize the signs, (2) I never consorted with low women, or (3) it happened but I subconsciously blocked it out, or (4) I had my unconfirmed suspicions but opted to try to make the relationship stronger.  You choose the answer.

If a man spends enough time with a woman, the truth will become evident or irrelevant.

IMO in hindsight you are the only one who can chose the right option
could you clarify why would the truth become irrelevant?