From RFE to Visa - wild guessing time for Russian Fiancee

[ConnerVT]

Now guys, don't be confusing the man with options that aren't open to him (as well as offering very little hard fact or info).  The reality of it is, you just need to wait for as long as it takes.  HOW you do the waiting can be rewarding or frustrating, depending on how you choose to do it.

[Bruno]

In 2002 Bruno. There were no checks with other EU countries as far as I know.

Did you marry in RU or Ukraine?

If we had decided to marry here she would have just requested a tourist visa and convert the visa after the ceremony.

Here in Italy you go to the local immigration officials and request a no impediment document which is forwarded to the consulate in Moscow. If this document is not issued within 90 days she can go directly to the consulate with the stamped/dated receipt of the request and copies of documents and they must issue the visa.

Same would apply to any family member including MIL and FIL.

Rarely does it take more than a month.

 

Maybe the shengen system was working better... in my time, all was always make by post... the dossier from Moscow to Brussels and back take already around 3 week... the letter from Moscow to Lipetsk, almost one week... and unfortunaly, his approval was just before christmas...

I have marry in Russia, Lipetsk... and one problem with document... she was from Russian nationality but birth in Ukraine... Administration have refuce in the begin his russian birth act... and ask a ukrainian... in Ukraine, they have refuse give one since she was russian... finaly, they have accept the russian one...

For the adoption of Anastassia, same problem, it was need the birth act of mother and have request a Ukrainian... With the help of around 750 euro, Ukraine have accept to make one... i have receive it these year, around 6 month after divorce... in the same time that the russian document for the adoption... a little late...

Now, about the "euro K3", a little detail can accelerate a lot the thing but i have not know it in these time... After marriage, you go directly back in Europa with the russian marriage act with apostille, you make the translation, certify it with the justicy palais... register in the the special register and you have in the week a Belgium marriage act... this allow her to receive a tourist visa and stay in Belgium until the full procedure is finish... around the same that you second solution...

If she is in Belgium, tourist or personal visa, she can marry you... around 20 day between the deposit of document and the marriage... after the marriage, she can prolong her visa from 3 to 6 month... when she give all the needed document at the foreign office, she receive a white identity card who allow her to stay in Belgium during the time of procedure ( she cannot visit other european country and are not allow to work )... when the familly reunion is approved, she receive a yellow identity card valid 5 year maximum ( she can visit all european country and can work )...

After 3 year ( previously 5 year ) married with the same man, she can begin the naturalisation procedure... in case of success, she become Belgium citizen and receive the green card... this mean that she have the right to vote, that she can use a Belgium passport to visit other country... fully the same right...

So, i have think use the second method in the future, a marriage in Belgium with a personal visa... the marriage in FSU was possible with the register of marriage in Belgium but non needed expense have blocked me since she will be obligate to buy a round trip ticket... marriage and procedure in Russia was too long... but since you say that it is more fast now, it is a interesting alternative... no need to pay a round trip when she receive the "euro K3"... and this method can make his parents happy... a last souvenir ( marriage ) and the time for say good-bye...

Some other procedure are possible... but with too much risk, or more complex, or not clear...

[Bruno]

Now guys, don't be confusing the man with options that aren't open to him (as well as offering very little hard fact or info).  The reality of it is, you just need to wait for as long as it takes.  HOW you do the waiting can be rewarding or frustrating, depending on how you choose to do it.

Oooppppsssss... Sorry... but i have interest in the European procedure... i am Europea and i wish marry, soon or late... and since the experience of BC was more recent that my own experience, it was interesting for me...

I give back the topic to Goombah...

If i see the actual situation of Turbo, i don't think that the waiting time was chosen by him... the loose of time and money ( plane ticket ) are certainly very frustrating...

[ConnerVT]

I give back the topic to Goombah...

If i see the actual situation of Turbo, i don't think that the waiting time was chosen by him... the loose of time and money ( plane ticket ) are certainly very frustrating...

We don't know all the details in Turbo's case, but he did make one large error -- assuming that a government agency is going to do as you wish in your expected time frame.  Even the US embassy's web site clearly states not to make your travel arrangements until after you have your visa.

As far as "losing money"... Because of the delays my (then) fiancee had with her visa, I made two additional 'unplanned' trips to Russia to be with her.  Not only did it cost me money for the extra airplane tickets, I lost wages from not being at work, and I am sure it was also a deciding factor in the termination of the business arrangement I had before my current employment.  But I do not consider it 'losing' anything.  I had time to develop a better relationship with my wife and son, as well as with her family and friends (my Russian family).  I gained experiences and understanding that have only helped my family and my marriage so far.

As the saying goes, "$hit happens."  The trick is to make it work for you, and not be an obstacle to you.  :cool:

[Bruno]

Time frame and plan are needed in situation of foreign marriage, more true in case of children...

The example of school... in public school, no problem... but in private one, these with good quality education, sometime, you need register your child one year before... if she is not here in the planned time... she loose her place... the same for some language course...

In fact, for several thing, you need a time frame... K1 procedure is not the only thing to plan... several people are fool and think that the K1 is the end of the way... it is only the beginning... when my previous wife have come in Belgium, it was the begin of a hell between several administration and other thing... Be married with K1 is the appetizers... the main dish is waiting...

Like someone have write, plan the bad... so, when the good will be coming, you will be happy... but in any case, a time frame is needed... if you don't try plan anything, it is always possible to have very big problem...