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« on: August 06, 2005, 07:41:13 PM »

Body is that of missing model
Fingerprint match confirms woman's identity




By Josh Kleinbaum, Staff Writer






Officials confirmed through a fingerprint match Friday that the decomposing body discovered in the bed of a pickup truck was that of Iryna Singerman, a married model from the Ukraine believed to have been killed by her boyfriend.
The news formalized what authorities and Singerman's family have suspected since Tuesday afternoon, when the body was found at a Winnetka storage facility with Singerman's purse and other personal items.
"This is exactly what we were expecting," said Barry Greenberg, an attorney and friend speaking on behalf of Singerman's husband, Ronald. "It's an absolute tragic event, and we're just hoping that they find the person who murdered her as soon as possible, and we want to see him brought to justice."
An autopsy performed Friday could not conclusively determine how the 21-year-old woman died, officials said. Additional tests could take up to three months to complete, Smith said.
Meanwhile, police and the U.S. Marshals Service continued to search for Brian Joseph Cullen, 57, Singerman's millionaire boyfriend and the primary suspect in the case.
"We're putting all of the resources that we can into it," Los Angeles police Detective Rick Swanston said.
Police were first drawn to the Singerman case July 26, when a bystander called authorities to say he saw a man transfer two bags of bloody evidence towels, a baseball bat and documents from the trunk of a gray Ford Focus to a trash bin in Woodland Hills. The documents bore Singerman's name, and police traced the Focus to Cullen using surveillance cameras from surrounding businesses.
The next day, police found blood and other evidence of a struggle in Cullen's rented home in the 5000 block of Medina Road in Woodland Hills.
Singerman's body was found Tuesday in the bed of Cullen's Ford F-150 pickup, parked at a Public Storage facility. Cullen had reserved the parking space July 26, paying for three months, police said.
Singerman had been married to her husband for about a year, Swanston said. They met in her native Ukraine, and then returned to the United States, where they married.
For months, though, Iryna Singerman was having a secret affair with Cullen, according to police and Cullen's neighbors. She kept a 2005 Mercedes-Benz which her husband did not know she bought until insurance papers arrived in the mail at Cullen's house. They were in the process of buying a home together in Northridge, possibly as an investment, Swanston said.
Ronald Singerman knew nothing of the relationship between Iryna and Cullen until she disappeared July 25, according to Greenberg and police.
Cullen might now be in Mexico, possibly traveling with a 14-year-old boy he had identified as his adopted son, police said. Cullen speaks fluent Spanish and has lived in Mexico in the past, Swanston said.
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2005, 08:31:00 PM »
I posted else where that the rich guys get the 10s. I wonder what the husband was thinking? You marry a model and hope to keep her as your wife. Unless you have more money then Cullen, a millionaire, then you lose her to him. Women are like that. Unfortunate for this one that her infidelity cost her her life.

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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2005, 08:40:05 PM »
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 Women are like that. Unfortunate for this one that her infidelity cost her her life.

PeeWee

"Women" are not necessarily "like that".  If you read this again carefully, it is her boyfriend, not her husband that is the prime suspect.  Sorry PeeWee, but I find your comments very shallow.

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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2005, 11:03:08 PM »
That's right Ken, read it again carefully. Her boyfriend is the millionaire.

In other words she married an American and then, once in America, found herself a rich boyfriend.

 

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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2005, 11:04:25 PM »
Nothing shallow in his comments To my mind guy should think twice before marry "model" more than 20 years younger

Actually this sad story about two "idiots" - husband who thought he could keep his "model" next to him, and silly girl who thought she could "win" in such dangerouse games.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2005, 11:30:00 PM by Elen »

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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2005, 01:57:31 AM »
Sad story but we are talking about a Ukrainian "model" or as is usually the case with FSU "models" ie. model / prostitute.  The guy who found her in the Ukraine, took her here and married her from the story sounds oblivious to what was going on.  This story in no way relates to a marriage like Kens other than it was with what most consider to be an even larger age difference.
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2005, 02:51:13 AM »
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I posted else where that the rich guys get the 10s. I wonder what the husband was thinking? You marry a model and hope to keep her as your wife. Unless you have more money then Cullen, a millionaire, then you lose her to him. Women are like that. Unfortunate for this one that her infidelity cost her her life.

PeeWee


PeeWee, and you think I'm a "jaded mo-fo"???  What does a comment like this make you?  

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2005, 02:56:34 AM »
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Sad story but we are talking about a Ukrainian "model" or as is usually the case with FSU "models" ie. model / prostitute.  The guy who found her in the Ukraine, took her here and married her from the story sounds oblivious to what was going on.  This story in no way relates to a marriage like Kens other than it was with what most consider to be an even larger age difference.
Yep, not so fast... First, these woman was not model when she was in Ukraine... She have begin it when she was in USA... and she was not professional model... only part time model aspiring to be a real model...

His man was really crazy to allow her make so job... of maybe he was with some interest in the income... in the model world, nothing is usual... drug, sex, .... in some way, he have allow his new wife to spring in these strange world... she was a normal woman when she have know him...

It seem easy now to put the mistake on the back of these woman but she was new in USA, in the first year of marriage... and her man, in place of take care of her and protect her, in place of advice her, have allow all the BS...

So, correct i correct it : she was a ukrainian woman who is become model in USA...

Full story and not only part like in the original post here can be find at http://www.angelsmissing.com/forum/index.php?s=ded561777bd0634f05644c0389993708&showtopic=2269&pid=6038&st=0&#entry6038

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Of course, the morality of these woman is not good but why the husband have allow her to make so work... why the neightbour of husband who have see several time the play-boy with her in the familial house have never say something to the husband... everybody what knowing these affair except the husband !!!  

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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2005, 03:13:33 AM »
Bruno,

No where in any of the reports does it say that the woman was not a model in Ukraine.  It was the boyfriend's neighbor that reported seeing her, not the husband's neighbor.

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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2005, 03:40:08 AM »
About neightbour, sorry for my mistake...

About modeling... nothing prove that she was model in Ukraine... and about be model in USA, it is not real clear...

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/valley/la-me-body4aug04,1,2405455.story?coll=la-editions-valley&ctrack=1&cset=true
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Singerman met her husband, Ronald, a certified public accountant, a year ago through an agency that matches American men with Russian women, Swanston said.

He brought her to the United States and the couple married, settling in Ronald Singerman's West Los Angeles home.

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Cullen had been seeing Singerman for at least several months, police said. Singerman told her husband that her frequent absences were related to her modeling work.

Swanston described Singerman as an aspiring model with a portfolio.

She was not employed by a modeling agency.


 

She was not yet a model but wishing be one... and it seem that she have use these excuse for meet her boyfriend...

And now, about "model"... new use the word model for make audience but it seem that she was not a real model since she was working with none model agency... the same term of "model" is used in English for the "erotic model"... this story remember me a little the story of Natel King ( porno model from Canada ) killed by his photograph in USA...

Ken, if your wife was with the same behavour that Singerman wife, i am sure that your have be very fast suspicious... and now, he say that he was knowing nothing... of he lie of he is really stupid...

What i will find interesting is to know the name of the marriage Agency... unfortunaly, i was not able to find it...

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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2005, 03:56:44 AM »
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What i will find interesting is to know the name of the marriage Agency... unfortunaly, i was not able to find it...

 

Try www.UkrainianHoneysForMorons.com

 

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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2005, 04:26:25 AM »
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Nothing shallow in his comments To my mind guy should think twice before marry "model" more than 20 years younger

Actually this sad story about two "idiots" - husband who thought he could keep his "model" next to him, and silly girl who thought she could "win" in such dangerouse games.

I agree. Women are attracted to two things; money and power. Any guy who thinks love will win over it is a fool. There are exceptions, of course, but usually the guy with the most money gets the best looking women. In this situation the husband went over his head and married a woman who had all the potential and the ability to leave him once she was secure in the US. Because of her attractiveness she was noticed by a rich man and, she attracted to his power and money, risked the affair. The marriage was doomed at that point. You guys should know this about women.

The reverse happens too. As a man grows older generally his income and influence grow as well. He is able to "trade up", if you will, to a younger and more attractive woman. You see this all of the time. Hollywood is ripe with this progression. Michael Douglas being a good example of it.

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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2005, 04:28:52 AM »
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I posted else where that the rich guys get the 10s. I wonder what the husband was thinking? You marry a model and hope to keep her as your wife. Unless you have more money then Cullen, a millionaire, then you lose her to him. Women are like that. Unfortunate for this one that her infidelity cost her her life.

PeeWee

PeeWee, and you think I'm a "jaded mo-fo"??? What does a comment like this make you? [/quote]
maybe the same, jb, but I did not make the comment to him, you did. So I called you on it.

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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2005, 04:44:29 AM »
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I agree. Women are attracted to two things; money and power. Any guy who thinks love will win over it is a fool. There are exceptions, of course, but usually the guy with the most money gets the best looking women. In this situation the husband went over his head and married a woman who had all the potential and the ability to leave him once she was secure in the US. Because of her attractiveness she was noticed by a rich man and, she attracted to his power and money, risked the affair. The marriage was doomed at that point. You guys should know this about women.

The reverse happens too. As a man grows older generally his income and influence grow as well. He is able to "trade up", if you will, to a younger and more attractive woman. You see this all of the time. Hollywood is ripe with this progression. Michael Douglas being a good example of it.

PeeWee

 

PeeWee,

 On all to many levels you are correct in your post but what is the problem with it, if a man is wealthy why not trade up to a more attractive younger woman? If the woman is happy and the man is happy with the relationship then who cares? If the man protects himself against a gold digger and the woman is willing to stay in the relationship and make the man happy what is wrong with it? Sounds like a win, win to me.

 

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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2005, 04:48:35 AM »
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I agree. Women are attracted to two things; money and power. Any guy who thinks love will win over it is a fool.

Love from woman's side dose win over those two things But it should be love at first place



Aha! Tiger Pows:D Well you are from those happy husbands who should be "afraid" not about more rich competitor but about somebody your beautiful wife can fall in love with - some poor but young boy:P Sometimes such happenes as well, when money loses all their value for woman.

« Last Edit: August 07, 2005, 04:55:00 AM by Elen »

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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2005, 05:01:01 AM »
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I agree. Women are attracted to two things; money and power. Any guy who thinks love will win over it is a fool.

Love from woman's side dose win over those two things But it should be love at first place



Aha! Tiger Pows:D Well you are from those happy husbands who should be "afraid" not about more rich competitor but about somebody your beautiful wife can fall in love with - some poor but young boy:P Sometimes such happenes as well, when money loses all their value for woman.

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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2005, 05:08:28 AM »
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I agree. Women are attracted to two things; money and power. Any guy who thinks love will win over it is a fool

The reverse happens too. As a man grows older generally his income and influence grow as well. He is able to "trade up", if you will, to a younger and more attractive woman. You see this all of the time. Hollywood is ripe with this progression. Michael Douglas being a good example of it.

PeeWee

TigerPaw wrote:,

If the woman is happy and the man is happy with the relationship then who cares? If the man protects himself against a gold digger and the woman is willing to stay in the relationship and make the man happy what is wrong with it? Sounds like a win, win to me.[/size]


[/quote]I think Tiger is more correct than PeeWee. But it is a great big world with lots of different types of people.  For example, some younger women really do like older men...like the example of Scarlett  Johannson http://movies.channel.aol.com/celebrity/main.adp?_pgtyp=pdct&sid=200222, star of the curent movie The Island and next year's Missioin Impossible.  She is 20, but likes older men, she says.  Such as her Lost in Translation co-star Bill Murray, who is more than 30 years older.  Yes, we know what the norm is.  But sometimes we can wish upon a star and our wish comes true :)
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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2005, 05:27:06 AM »
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I agree. Women are attracted to two things; money and power. Any guy who thinks love will win over it is a fool. There are exceptions, of course, but usually the guy with the most money gets the best looking women. In this situation the husband went over his head and married a woman who had all the potential and the ability to leave him once she was secure in the US. Because of her attractiveness she was noticed by a rich man and, she attracted to his power and money, risked the affair. The marriage was doomed at that point. You guys should know this about women.

The reverse happens too. As a man grows older generally his income and influence grow as well. He is able to "trade up", if you will, to a younger and more attractive woman. You see this all of the time. Hollywood is ripe with this progression. Michael Douglas being a good example of it.

PeeWee
 

PeeWee,

 On all to many levels you are correct in your post but what is the problem with it, if a man is wealthy why not trade up to a more attractive younger woman? If the woman is happy and the man is happy with the relationship then who cares? If the man protects himself against a gold digger and the woman is willing to stay in the relationship and make the man happy what is wrong with it? Sounds like a win, win to me.

 
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Yes, I agree with you. You may have noticed that I tend to generalize. And I try to be a bit abrasive as well. I do it for a reason. To get you guys to think a bit more and to entice some of you to speak up. Feel a bit more passion about this process. I may not always fully believe what it is that I have written. I make a portion of my living as a writter of novels. You have to know that I am not opposed to playing with words and constructing them for different effects. In my book writting I am very good at drawing emotions out of those that read the words that I wrote.

With that said, I am in the same boat as many of you are. The lady that I have courted for 3 years is a 10. (I know it because I have seen the magazines and newspaper articles about her. The most recent photo of her appeared in one of this years women's glamour magazines). I noticed her because of her beauty. That is how we are first attracted to females. Who said it? Men love with their eyes and wormen with their ears. It just so turns out that she is not only beautiful and at one time was a celebrity in Russia, she is a supper woman on the inside as well. I got really lucky.

My point is not to tell you how great this woman is but rather that I am after the same as you. A somewhat younger (she is 14 years younger than I am) and a very attractive FSU woman. Will I be able to keep her when she arrives in the US? I think so, if I am a good husband for her. If I neglect her or cheat on her or make her unhappy for some reason then I should expect that she will find another man. I would not be surprised if she "traded up" because she can do it.

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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2005, 05:29:18 AM »
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I agree. Women are attracted to two things; money and power. Any guy who thinks love will win over it is a fool.

Love from woman's side dose win over those two things But it should be love at first place



Aha! Tiger Pows:D Well you are from those happy husbands who should be "afraid" not about more rich competitor but about somebody your beautiful wife can fall in love with - some poor but young boy:P Sometimes such happenes as well, when money loses all their value for woman.

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[/quote]Jon, good one. I had not heard it before. Thanks.

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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2005, 05:33:28 AM »
Quote from: Michael
I agree. Women are attracted to two things; money and power. Any guy who thinks love will win over it is a fool

The reverse happens too. As a man grows older generally his income and influence grow as well. He is able to "trade up", if you will, to a younger and more attractive woman. You see this all of the time. Hollywood is ripe with this progression. Michael Douglas being a good example of it.

PeeWee
TigerPaw wrote:,

If the woman is happy and the man is happy with the relationship then who cares? If the man protects himself against a gold digger and the woman is willing to stay in the relationship and make the man happy what is wrong with it? Sounds like a win, win to me.


[/quote]I think Tiger is more correct than PeeWee. But it is a great big world with lots of different types of people. For example, some younger women really do like older men...like the example of Scarlett Johannson http://movies.channel.aol.com/celebrity/main.adp?_pgtyp=pdct&sid=200222, star of the curent movie The Island and next year's Missioin Impossible. She is 20, but likes older men, she says. Such as her Lost in Translation co-star Bill Murray, who is more than 30 years older. Yes, we know what the norm is. But sometimes we can wish upon a star and our wish comes true :)
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Michael, I count on the ones that are attracted to the older men. Many are. Why? They are the ones who are after the stability that both money and power brings. It is an intoxicant for them. It is all to easy for a young and attactive woman to find a older and more wealthy man. The reverse is also true. And that was may original point.

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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2005, 05:33:49 AM »
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I agree. Women are attracted to two things; money and power. Any guy who thinks love will win over it is a fool.

Love from woman's side dose win over those two things But it should be love at first place

Aha! Tiger Pows:D Well you are from those happy husbands who should be "afraid" not about more rich competitor but about somebody your beautiful wife can fall in love with - some poor but young boy:P Sometimes such happenes as well, when money loses all their value for woman.

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 Afraid? No! But then again if my lady was to leave so be it. I would simply find another, there are many more to be had. Never invest more than you are willing to loose.
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2005, 05:59:25 AM »
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Afraid? No! But then again if my lady was to leave so be it. I would simply find another, there are many more to be had. Never invest more than you are willing to loose.

Not more surprised that you are so rich... it seem that you trat all like business, same love relation... maybe in some year, you will be change of "invest" when the actual will be come too much old...

Why marry ( buy ) a woman, not only hire a woman... when you are tired, you change it... sorry, i was forget, for the woman stay with you, you need to marry her before the end from the 3 month of the K1...

With so words, the term "mail order bride" is really true...

 

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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2005, 06:25:49 AM »
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Afraid? No! But then again if my lady was to leave so be it. I would simply find another, there are many more to be had. Never invest more than you are willing to loose.
Not more surprised that you are so rich... it seem that you trat all like business, same love relation... maybe in some year, you will be change of "invest" when the actual will be come too much old...

Why marry ( buy ) a woman, not only hire a woman... when you are tired, you change it... sorry, i was forget, for the woman stay with you, you need to marry her before the end from the 3 month of the K1...

With so words, the term "mail order bride" is really true...
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Bruno,

 You do not have to agree or disagree those are the FACTS of life. Men of means simply have more opions and business is business, what is the difference if a man marries a woman for "love" then a few years later they get a divorce for whatever reason then marries another woman for "love". Or if a man marries a woman because she is young, beautiful and he enjoyes her company and she stays with him because of his position, status and money? Personally I do not see much difference as long as the man is happy and is able afford the lady what is the difference?
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« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2005, 06:49:05 AM »
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« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2005, 07:44:38 AM »
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Bruno,

 You do not have to agree or disagree those are the FACTS of life. Men of means simply have more opions and business is business, what is the difference if a man marries a woman for "love" then a few years later they get a divorce for whatever reason then marries another woman for "love". Or if a man marries a woman because she is young, beautiful and he enjoyes her company and she stays with him because of his position, status and money? Personally I do not see much difference as long as the man is happy and is able afford the lady what is the difference?

Don't say me that you don't see the difference... in the first case, you speak of love, a shared relation... in the second, you show the woman like a parasite... the second case is more business type... a service for one other... not more the free exchange, the love... in so situation, it mean that if you know difficult periode, the woman quit you for a other provider...

Remember what is say during a marriage : share the good and the bad...

Really, if you cannot see the difference, i don't understand why you have marry...

 

 

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