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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #75 on: April 15, 2008, 06:48:43 PM »
The three of us shared one thing in common: we spent an extended period of time in Russia, we learned the language and we could meet women who were not in any way affiliated with agencies. 
make it the four of us!
Well, if I may introduce a perspective of a man who actually was born in Russia, is a native Russian speaker and who at the age of 44 met his 24 year old wife, married her and lived happily ever after.
First I will agree that the majority of girls under 24 are definitely not ready for marriage, especially to a foreigner that will take them away from everything they know and love. Oh yeah, 18, 20 and 22 year olds want a relationship but usually they want it with a cute local boy under 27. Also a huge priority for them at that age is graduating from college and getting a good career going. Many women have actually 2 degrees! Obviously there are exceptions. But I wouldn't recommend to anyone to even try to talk to girls under 24. If you get a letter from a 21 y.o beauty on any agency site and she is telling you that she wants marriage and family, you can pretty much be sure it's a scam.  In order to be open enough for a relationship with a foreigner most girls have to already have been in a relationship with a local RM who most likely cheated on her, was abusive, drank too much and then, just as she fell hopelessly in love with the player, dumped her for another hottie. By the time these RW are 24-25 they would have had their share of bad experiences and now some of them are open to meeting a WM if he is attractive to them and if he approaches them the right way.

As far as age difference it can also be very subjective. There are many variables...for instance in my case I definitely didn't look my age, I also act very young, probably because of the line of work I was in (I was a record producer and DJ for many years). In many ways my wife was more grounded and more mature than me! At 24 she was already a practicing dentist in one of the best private clinics in Moscow!
Also it was definitely a lot easier for me since I am a native Russian speaker and I grew up in that culture. I dated RWs since age 15 and knew what to stay away from and who I should talk to. Obviously I didn't use any agencies with their fantasy world, rather used local Russian dating sites. Another important thing I did totally different form most men, I also looked through profiles of women with no photo! You'd be surprised how many beautiful girls don't put up their photos on profile, because they don't want men to approach them strictly on looks. My wife didn't have a photo on her profile, but when I read her ad, I knew that I wanted to talk to this girl! the bottom line is that she is a down to earth, very family oriented, very loyal young woman and in our case age difference doesn't make any difference.
In some ways she is more grounded than I am and keeps me grounded!
Someone mentioned on this thread that he feels self-concious about being older and looking older. Well, if you are going to feel self-concious and old, then maybe you are. I feel young and I actually really enjoy all the jealous looks from men when my wife and I are about town.
I also get some angry looks from AW, but they only make me laugh.
For most men though, who are not Russian speakers I wouldn't recommend going over 10-15 years difference, 20 max in some cases. Not only will you not have a lot in common because of the cultural gap, but the age difference will add to that gap. Get to know each other extremely well! make sure you have similar interests, hobbies, life outlook, values, etc. If you both are crazy about diving and mountain climbing and having a ball together doing it, and your values and life philosophies are the same who cares what age difference is between you two?
 
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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #76 on: April 15, 2008, 07:07:28 PM »
ambach,

You seem to have a skewed vision of the scene over there, I wonder if you've ever even dated a RW?  Keeping in line with your take on things, your vision of life in America seems a bit off as well.  Most of my friends I know around age 30 are doing just fine, buying homes, starting on their children, no financial problems whatsoever.  I guess it must be bad where you are from, but things are fine on the west coast as long as you are not connected to the home building business (and even then its not that bad).

There are two kinds of things going on "over there".  What you saw in the GQ article is the guys with money looking for girls that look for money (this tends towards larger age gaps).  There is another side that comprises of normal middle class guys looking for their match near their age/lifestyle and expectations.  I am not going to argue which is more common, but with the rich men in Russia snapping up the local gold diggers I think the middle class arrangements are becoming more common (look at Jazzy as an example of the trend). 

But I still say its the same thing that happens everywhere else.  Rich old guys with poor young girls do hook up.  But so do middle class guys and girls (that is middle class Americans and middle class Russians).  Many girls I've met are from the upper half of the income side in Russia and they have no economic incentive to meet a man from anywhere.  I am not so naive to think a girl I am dating is looking for a better life, but I am not going to give her any indication that I am going to provide her a luxurious life.

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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #77 on: April 15, 2008, 07:15:40 PM »
A friend phoned me from Alberta where the oil boom is on. He said the men there are flying all over the world to look for wives as the men in Alberta province greatly out number the women because of the huge demand for workers and men from all over the country flocking to Alberta for high paying jobs.
I plead guilty...  :truce:

For the RW, she has three choices.

1. Keep hoping that a younger AM with or without money would show up, I think chances of this happening successfully are slim to none.
Good! Less competition for me!  :cheesygrin:

More seriously, I'm happy that things improve in FSU. I don't see myself in the role of the knight in shining armor saving the damsel in distress!  :P

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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #78 on: April 15, 2008, 07:32:39 PM »
Get to know each other extremely well! make sure you have similar interests, hobbies, life outlook, values, etc. If you both are crazy about diving and mountain climbing and having a ball together doing it, and your values and life philosophies are the same who cares what age difference is between you two?
 

I think that really nails it down right there, as far as having a successful relationship.  It is also going to go into consideration when (if)she chooses to immigrate to Canada where several elements will be examined.  As for age, what do you consider old?  What do you consider young?

As far as other posters are talking about the oil boom in Alberta, how long do you think this kind of money will last before we have a crash like '84 with Jmen looking for labouring positions?  And what are your long term plans for supporting a family?

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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #79 on: April 15, 2008, 07:44:46 PM »
I get so tired of threads like this....so have avoided posting here and repeating the same old things.

But stupidity cannot go unchallenged, so here goes....

It is not the age difference that matters--it is the relationship.

It seems like many here are happy with their age differences, and advise others not to go any higher than the one they have.

But what would really be stupid would be to marry someone you own age you can't get along with!   Once again, it's the relationship that is the important thing.

Plenty of older american men here get younger second wives, although I'm not trying to say its common. 

Actually, it is pretty common.  In the condo where we live, virtually everyone has a 15 or greater age gap.   And these are marriages that are past the 10 to 15 year point.  You see, given a second chance, the men chose more wisely, and have at their side fun loving, happy, adventuresome wives.  And they are American women, hot damn!

It is the relationship that matters, not the nationality or age.



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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #80 on: April 15, 2008, 07:58:20 PM »
I think that really nails it down right there, as far as having a successful relationship.  It is also going to go into consideration when (if)she chooses to immigrate to Canada where several elements will be examined.  As for age, what do you consider old?  What do you consider young?

As far as other posters are talking about the oil boom in Alberta, how long do you think this kind of money will last before we have a crash like '84 with Jmen looking for labouring positions?  And what are your long term plans for supporting a family?

About oil boom in Alberta, I have asked myself a little more than 2 years ago if that was interesting to move (when I was in my previous relationship with a canadian woman). I get several offers at the time (I worked as IT architect for SCADA systems). Result : NO

Why ? quality of life and housing cost. ok you pay less taxes... and after ? Here it takes me 20 minutes to go to work, Housing is a small part of my budget, and I know that I can enjoy time with my children.. I work 35 hours per week, have one month of holidays per year, so why should I move ? The only real issue for my future wife will be to find a work (we estimate a delay of one around one year for her to find a work in her branch, international logistics ) and to learn french...


About age difference, both must be confortable with it. I do not see myself with a woman who is 21 (I am 34) , but if alchemy exist in the couple, this is a question of personal choice. ,
 

Simoni: "In the condo where we live, virtually everyone has a 15 or greater age gap.[...]You see given a second chance, the men chose more wisely, and have at their side fun loving, happy, adventuresome wives"

You are comparing de facto age difference (15 years) and to be wise ... so please keep the point. the fun loving side, etc.. does not depend of age but of each one...

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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #81 on: April 15, 2008, 08:03:35 PM »
Hello Canadians! How's the search going for you? I have been through a bit but learned a lot here. A lot of good advice and the more you get the easier it will be. I was to the point where all the agency profiles looked the same to me. Another member of RWD pm'd me and said he had amazing success with Eduard. I'm a little stubborn and have to find things out for myself but when I seen I was going nowhere, maybe even backwards :wallbash: with agencies I decided to try Eduard. Instant success! The girls are totally different. They just want a man, not to come here and the man second. I'm writing a few beautiful girls and had to turn a lot down. 8)

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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #82 on: April 15, 2008, 08:13:48 PM »


You are comparing de facto age difference (15 years) and to be wise ... so please keep the point. the fun loving side, etc.. does not depend of age but of each one... 

In that post THREE times I wrote
"it's the relationship that is the important thing"
and not the age difference.

And that's why I gave examples of many couples here who have found soulmates, and that is why they are happy.  Age does not matter to them...



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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #83 on: April 15, 2008, 09:22:42 PM »
About oil boom in Alberta, I have asked myself a little more than 2 years ago if that was interesting to move (when I was in my previous relationship with a canadian woman). I get several offers at the time (I worked as IT architect for SCADA systems). Result : NO

Why ? quality of life and housing cost. ok you pay less taxes... and after ? Here it takes me 20 minutes to go to work, Housing is a small part of my budget, and I know that I can enjoy time with my children.. I work 35 hours per week, have one month of holidays per year, so why should I move ? The only real issue for my future wife will be to find a work (we estimate a delay of one around one year for her to find a work in her branch, international logistics ) and to learn french...
I hear ya! I was young and stupid, so I went!  :cluebat: Of course I went there for money.

*Edit -  a bit too much  ::)*

Anyway, sorry for the off topic. (Well, at least, I can tell Ambach that youngsters with money, there's more than he thinks)

Catman: Right now, I got many good contact, but I have the feeling that I'm shooting in any directions. I should think of a more rational way to search.
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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #84 on: April 15, 2008, 09:41:51 PM »
Hello Canadians! How's the search going for you? I have been through a bit but learned a lot here. A lot of good advice and the more you get the easier it will be. I was to the point where all the agency profiles looked the same to me. Another member of RWD pm'd me and said he had amazing success with Eduard. I'm a little stubborn and have to find things out for myself but when I seen I was going nowhere, maybe even backwards :wallbash: with agencies I decided to try Eduard. Instant success! The girls are totally different. They just want a man, not to come here and the man second. I'm writing a few beautiful girls and had to turn a lot down. 8)
Catman, thank you for coming out in the open and your kind words. I enjoy very much working with you too, and looking forward helping you get your loving life partner!

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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #85 on: April 15, 2008, 10:17:50 PM »
Maybe Simoni in general you are right  but


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  It is the relationship that matters, not the nationality or age.
     

If that's so why then you went to Ukraine and married a very young girl then?  ;D

You know really you guys are portraying yourself as such a superficial creatures, I do not even have any words to say , I 've read most of the posts and they all come to one conclusion, you  are once again justifying your age gap marriages and  make fun of those who have the other opinion , I mean you are not Russian women to know what Russian women want finally, look around, read more of Russian women's opinion

Ok if it is not about age gap , nationality and all other items, then what is it about? I will say about love! But once again for some people love can be anything, money love, young body love and so on profitable love, career love and so on

For me love it is when I talk with the person and he understands me he takes me as I am , he never blames me for being myself , cherishes me , cares about me , about my opinion , about what I do , wants me to be happy , simply loves me for my character , loves my values  and aims in life, wants to achieve them together with me, and those same things I do for him, moral support of each of us and we are always there for each other.

I heard one guy told (I guess it was Saturn ) he was 44 and his pal was 35 and they dated I do not know how  the same girl as far as I understood who was 23 and she has chosen 44 one, cos she was attracted physically to him and towards his so called personality, please note! :-X first of all there was sexual affection in their relations well for some people it works out, for some not, and yes we want to know if you have married her and if so for how long are you in the relationship with her?

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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #86 on: April 16, 2008, 04:52:52 AM »
Maybe Simoni in general you are right  but

If that's so why then you went to Ukraine and married a very young girl then?  ;D

Ah, are you asking why I married a girl from Ukraine rather than a girl from here?  My answer may be different than some...I do find girls here to be very attractive and very intelligent and very interesting.  And no, I did not go to Ukraine in order to marry someone "younger."   My original post pointed out that age differences exist in domestic marriages as well as international.  An example--I have a friend at the university here.  He is 55.  He dates female professors at the university all the time, and they are in their 30s.  That "age difference" seems natural.

I was the same before I met Marina.   

I share this because it seems, in the minds of some, that American men only have age differences when in an international marriage.  That is not true.


Ok if it is not about age gap , nationality and all other items, then what is it about? I will say about love!
That is exactly correct.  I found someone whom I liked being with, and someone who wanted the same things in life.  And then, after dating more than a year and meeting many times, we decided to become a couple.  That was almost two years ago, and it just gets better and better as time goes on.  She loves me and supports me and protects me.  I am hers.

And very happy to be so  :D


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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #87 on: November 15, 2008, 07:02:49 PM »
Sorry to raise this thread from the dead, but I did not want to create yet another age thread


I realize the whole age difference is purely subjective to the individuals in the relationship (exceptions to every rule!)....that said, I am looking for some general opinions on this particular scenario:

Me:  34, looks 27ish. Good shape, attractive, great job - all material needs addressed in good style.  Former 'hipster', more mellow now but still close ties to the fast lane.  Artistic soul - friends with several musicians, one who plays drums for a nationally popular heavy metal band (yes, he quit his day job).  Still very active in current music scene.  Large & active social circle ranges from ages 22-38...naturally, other 'hipster/Bohemian' types. Live in the 5th largest city in the USA so everything imaginable is available for any type person. No winters in my city.  Have always dated very attractive women and am pretty much used to the attention they get, in fact, a form of flattery to me if other guys find my lady hot - 'eat your heart out!!'

Her:  21, shockingly beautiful. Surprisingly mature for her age (at least when considering some of my younger female friends).  In fact, I may be responsible person, but she may be more 'mature' than I am!  She seems to know exactly what she wants from a relationship and articulates her vision with the clarity that is typically reserved for someone with more life experience.

We can both be considered a great catch for anyone.  So is a 13 year age gap in this scenario a big deal?  After all, when she is 40 I will be 53 and that doesnt sound too bad at all.


Why did I want to go younger? My entire life I had always dated women 5-10 years older than me. But I want to have more children, and that means the women in the dating pool I used to go for are really pushing the age where pregnancy complications/birth defects skyrocket.  I am divorced, and I feel a lot of that had to do with rushing into babyhood (older wife biological clock ticking!!)

My next relationship I want at least 5 years to develop the relationship before we seriously talk about babies.  If I focused on women my age or older, now we are talking about trying to have a healthy pregnancy at age 40+

So I originally targeted 25, but wound up interested in a girl who is only 21. 

Ideally speaking...we flirt from distance 3-6 months, then takes 6-12 months for visa...by the time we actually get married, she is 23.  5 years to develop the relationship & prego by 28. Not to young emotionally, not too old physically - perfect!

So yeah, for me - my desire for a younger woman is all about biology and breeding and nothing to do with mid life crisis or seeking a trophy wife.   I can admit there is a part of me that says "Dude, your window of opportunity for a young hottie hard body will be closing soon, so carpe dieum!".....but after watching my wife suffer pregnancy complications at age 35, expecting twins and lost one mid term -that is playing a larger role in my decision making here

















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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #88 on: November 15, 2008, 08:02:21 PM »
Question for me is not about age gap but about personal development... your girlfriend/wife will want to achieve her personal goals, to study and get a career. It takes time and efforts. On your side, you have already made some achievements, you are not at the same level than her.

Have a lot of talk about her projects, what she wish and what is important in her life. At 21, even if you are mature, I know nobody who has clear picture of the life. She likes your style of life, but what it will be when she will be 30 ? What do you want in 9 years ? Start to project both of you in what you want without asking the other one...and compare after. You will have your answer.
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« Reply #89 on: November 15, 2008, 08:33:06 PM »
So, I find it amazing how the whole industry has created this atmosphere of fantasy for pure profits, at the expense of naive and unsuspecting Americans & Europeans.

Why is this any different from diet product, hair product, size product claims?  8)

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« Reply #90 on: November 15, 2008, 09:44:50 PM »
Question for me is not about age gap but about personal development... your girlfriend/wife will want to achieve her personal goals, to study and get a career. It takes time and efforts. On your side, you have already made some achievements, you are not at the same level than her.

Have a lot of talk about her projects, what she wish and what is important in her life. At 21, even if you are mature, I know nobody who has clear picture of the life. She likes your style of life, but what it will be when she will be 30 ? What do you want in 9 years ? Start to project both of you in what you want without asking the other one...and compare after. You will have your answer.

Thanks for your reply!

Personally, I am slowly but surely winding down.  By the time she hit 30, I would be 43 and we would likely have a child together, which as anyone who has a child knows, changes everything. My career will also be that much more developed and I imagine we live a more traditional family life household.  I imagine the early stage of our relationship would be little different than most couples in their 20's (though I am in my 30s) and evlove towards the more traditional and stable family life.

She claims to want that family life now.  But as we both know, age 21 - you dont really know what you want in life, and for all the lovey-dovey-mommy stuff she might talk about is nice and what I want in a woman, I plan to give a good 5 years to allow for fun and shenannigans before I actually hold her to those words.  She can take classes, get her career started, explore the underground and club scene, develop her 'new' western idenity, etc before she takes on pregnancy.  I am very concerned that if I am involved with a woman that young, and she doesnt get that opportunity to explore and have fun - its gonna bite me hard a few years later down the line

and if her exploration pulls her in a different direction than me, well....that sucks, but at least we didnt bring a kid into the world




But its not like I am specifically targeting 21 year olds! lol 

When I got started, I was thinking 25-28ish and still browse that group.  Its just this one particular girl I am making an exception for, which is suprising to myself cause I wouldnt dream of marrying a 21 year old American pop-tart!   
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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #91 on: November 16, 2008, 12:28:53 AM »
Its just this one particular girl I am making an exception for
That's what they all say.

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I wouldnt dream of marrying a 21 year old American pop-tart!
Ethnicity doesn't make all that much difference. Young wives are great fun much of the time and a general PITA most of the time. ;D I'm married to one.

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I plan to give a good 5 years to allow for fun and shenannigans before I actually hold her to those words.  She can take classes, get her career started, explore the underground and club scene, develop her 'new' western idenity, etc before she takes on pregnancy.
Looking for a talent to manage or a wife? This looks more of the former than the latter. ~Shrug~.

FWIW, I think you should spend several weeks with this doll on several different trips and the answers to the questions you are throwing out will pretty much jump out for themselves. Frankly, from what you've written, this looks like a slightly 'nother slant on justifying the chasing of young fluff. Not holding that against you but do so at your peril.

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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #92 on: November 16, 2008, 01:04:11 AM »
Energy,

it's a little coincidental but my girlfriend and I are 30 and 43 so are at the same place as you two will be in 9 years. The 13 year gap for us makes no difference and we fit together like hand and glove.

Some girls at 21 are ready for marriage and my girlfriend gave me examples of these; of course, they almost always marry local guys in their own age group.

We do think there is a huge difference between a 21 year old girl marrying a local guy and a foreign guy though; the enormous upheaval of moving to a different country and leaving behind family, friends and everything that's familiar is going to add enormous pressures that I'm not sure many 21 year old girls will be able to handle that well. 

Of course, there will always be exceptions to this.

FWIW, my girlfriend and I have known each other since January and she has already attended college, university, worked in Moscow away from her home town and worked in Germany too, so she was well aware of what to expect; my guess is that your 21 year old doesn't.
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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #93 on: November 16, 2008, 01:42:44 AM »
That's what they all say.

Ethnicity doesn't make all that much difference. Young wives are great fun much of the time and a general PITA most of the time. ;D I'm married to one.
Looking for a talent to manage or a wife? This looks more of the former than the latter. ~Shrug~.

FWIW, I think you should spend several weeks with this doll on several different trips and the answers to the questions you are throwing out will pretty much jump out for themselves. Frankly, from what you've written, this looks like a slightly 'nother slant on justifying the chasing of young fluff. Not holding that against you but do so at your peril.

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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #94 on: November 16, 2008, 08:45:43 AM »
I imagine the early stage of our relationship would be little different than most couples in their 20's (though I am in my 30s) and evolve towards the more traditional and stable family life.

Does this really happen? It seems to me that couples tend to start of traditional and stable if they are to remain that way. I find it odd that you are looking for one type of relationship now that will evolve into something later.

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She claims to want that family life now.  But as we both know, age 21 - you dont really know what you want in life, and for all the lovey-dovey-mommy stuff she might talk about is nice and what I want in a woman, I plan to give a good 5 years to allow for fun and shenannigans before I actually hold her to those words. 

Why is it that you do not believe her? You write she "claims" yet you seem to presume that you know better than her. What if she does not want the shenanigans? So, if I understand you correctly, you want a young woman who says that she wants to settle down to change her mind and live the wild life for five years before she then settles down?

You wrote in a previous quote:

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Ideally speaking...we flirt from distance 3-6 months, then takes 6-12 months for visa...by the time we actually get married, she is 23.  5 years to develop the relationship & prego by 28.

What if she has another time line in mind? Have you discussed this with her? Have you told her that you would prefer that she wait until she is 28 before becoming pregnant? In Russia, women are told that it is better to have a child quite young to avoid complications. She may consider 28 to be too old to start.

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She can take classes, get her career started, explore the underground and club scene, develop her 'new' western identity, etc before she takes on pregnancy.  I am very concerned that if I am involved with a woman that young, and she doesn't get that opportunity to explore and have fun - its gonna bite me hard a few years later down the line

and if her exploration pulls her in a different direction than me, well....that sucks, but at least we didnt bring a kid into the world

Are you sure that she wants to explore the underground club scene? Not all young women like clubbing. You may have found one who does not. Also, what exactly is this 'new' western identity? Yes, she will go through culture shock. Yes, her English will get better. Yes, she will grow to like many things about her new country. But will she get a 'new' identity? Most RW that I have known, some for more than a decade, didn't really develop a new identity. They are pretty much the same women they were back then.

What I would be worried about is not that she misses out on the opportunity to explore and have fun, but that she become frustrated in that you are pushing her to do things that she does not really want to do. Is she into the underground scene now in her home city? If she isn't into it now, she likely won't want to be into it when she immigrates.

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When I got started, I was thinking 25-28ish and still browse that group.  Its just this one particular girl I am making an exception for, which is surprising to myself cause I wouldn't dream of marrying a 21 year old American pop-tart!   

So, if I understand, you don't want to marry a "21 year old American pop-tart" and instead you want to take a 21 year old Russian, bring her to the United States and turn her into a 23 year old "pop-tart" for five years because you think at that point you will be ready to have children with her. Wouldn't it be more logical to date 23 year old women in the United States who are already into the underground and the club scene and then in 3 or 4 years find a woman who wants a family and children?
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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #95 on: November 16, 2008, 09:09:05 AM »
I don't get why, if you already have concerns about an age gap, you would want to put your 21 year old wife in an environment (underground club scene) where she is going to be surrounded by exciting young men her own age.
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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #96 on: November 16, 2008, 10:25:01 AM »
Age is relative.  Every person is different.  Important thing it two people have solid chemistry together and communication. 

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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #97 on: November 16, 2008, 10:52:43 AM »
Some time ago i was very sceptic to big age difference, but the more i work with my clients the more i understand that it is not a big deal. I saw so many couples who are happy married and have really big age difference. Frankly speaking, i think if you have  mutual feelings and fun being together, age difference isn't important. It is not for nothing that people say:"The woman is as old as she looks and man is as old as he feels!" Of course all people are different and in any case there are exceptions of the rules!So, all this is very relative and it depends on definite couple and person. It is my own point of view and more of my experience :)

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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #98 on: November 16, 2008, 11:33:46 AM »
Wow, I can see how this is a polarizing topic in this community

1.) I am appealing to 21-25 year old American girls too, so why wouldnt I be able to attract same age somewhere else?  Some of you are assuming I could not compete against a 24 year old guy and think its foolish to allow her to go out and explore the club scene.  Sorry, but thats not (or never) been a concern in my life.  I have never had any worries about my lady going out on the town and fooling around on me.  And I know they get attention, the women I have dated and loved in life have ALWAYS got attention..in grocery store, night club..whatever.  What do I do, put them in a bubble??  I have both confidence in myself as well as the relationship I am in that I dont worry about such paranoid things.  Believe it or not, I look just as youthful and energetic as most 25 year old men, and my career is far more established - I really am not paranoid about loosing her to a 'younger more exciting' person because I am not chopped liver myself!

2.) Its nice that someone wants to settle down and have kids, but at age 21 there is plenty of time for that. When I was 21, I knew I eventually wanted to be a parent too - but I am glad I wasnt a parent AT AGE 21!  How does allowing some time in the relationship before having a child not make sense to some of you?  I am glad a woman wants to be a mother, but  I am not going to rush her into that role...not at ages under 25, whats the point in doing that?

3.) Yes, in my world/life it is normal for couples in thier 20's to be more active..socially, going out ,etc, etc than couples who settle down and have babies.  I cannot comprehend how anyone cannot see the evolution a couple goes through before and after baby enters the picture.  All humans change/evolve over time!  All relationships change/evolve over time!   

4.) I dont have problems meeting American women at  all.  The reason I am looking to do the FSU thing is because I want a TOTALLY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE in this life.  Everything from the travel to the language barrier - all fresh new challenges in life.  If I date American women again, I am doing no different with my life than I ever did before.  Its time to shake things up, time for change.

5.) I have many female friends in the 21-30 age group.  These girls likely be one of the 1st peer aged women my FSU woman would meet.  I would WANT them to be friendly to her and involve her in activities with them.  My woman MUST assimilate into the culture and feel accepted by her peers.  But that doesnt mean she is going to become a pop-tart herself, her new 'western identity' will be whatever she designs it to be.  I am just open minded and trusting enough to allow a young foreign woman to find herself in her new enviornment. If I dont allow someone to do that, thats not going to be good for the relationship in the long run IMO.



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Re: What difference does age make?
« Reply #99 on: November 16, 2008, 12:08:25 PM »
Wow, I can see how this is a polarizing topic in this community

1.) I am appealing to 21-25 year old American girls too, so why wouldnt I be able to attract same age somewhere else? 

So why don't you date young American women if your goal is to find someone to go clubbing with?

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2.) Its nice that someone wants to settle down and have kids, but at age 21 there is plenty of time for that. When I was 21, I knew I eventually wanted to be a parent too - but I am glad I wasnt a parent AT AGE 21!  How does allowing some time in the relationship before having a child not make sense to some of you?  I am glad a woman wants to be a mother, but  I am not going to rush her into that role...not at ages under 25, whats the point in doing that?

Then, look for a young woman who is into clubbing and does not want to have children for five years. All I am telling you is that it is foolish to take a woman that really wants to have a husband and a family at the age of 21 and expect her to magically transform into a clubbing Cinderella.

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4.) I dont have problems meeting American women at  all.  The reason I am looking to do the FSU thing is because I want a TOTALLY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE in this life.  Everything from the travel to the language barrier - all fresh new challenges in life.  If I date American women again, I am doing no different with my life than I ever did before.  Its time to shake things up, time for change.

Expect a year of hell as she goes through culture shock and homesickness. If that is the experience that you are looking for, be my guest ;)

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My woman MUST assimilate into the culture and feel accepted by her peers. 

Again, you are dictating how she must be even before you really know her  :rolleyes2: Again, look for a woman who shares your goals in life and your philosophy. Don't expect her to change just to be accepted by you and your peers.

 

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