A Wallet on Legs?

[Albert]

Oosik says: "A reasonable reading of Andrews last 4 years of posts shows that he is a sex tourist. Or if you have another word to describe someone who goes to a foreign country to screw women that he has no intention of marrying, then I will gladly use that word."

A reasonable reading of Andrew's posts indicate nothing of the sort.  He is not going to foreign country to screw women.  He happens to be posted in a foreign country for work.  Being a normal guy, he will screw women in whatever country he happens to be in.  Nothing wrong with that at all.  I presume guys here are or have screwed many women in USA. 

Many guys here have this 'put the FSU women on a pedestal' and think they should somehow be different than (or treated differently than) women in their home country.  This is nonsense.

In our home countries, we (not counting the closet homosexuals) date and screw many women.  When we go on dates, we don't start out thinking we are going to marry the women and the women certainly aren't thinking about marrying us.  We are just dating.  It is the normal process.  Thoughts of marriage come much later in the dating process.

Andrew is just following this standard model which is the norm for normal people.

I haven't met Andrew and don't agree with everything he writes; but to contend he is a sex tourist is ludicrous.

[Bruno]

[user=527]al-c[/user] wrote:

I support Dan on this 100%.

Me too... his work is not easy... own feeling and neutral moderation... something that i am not able to make... since he always inform when it is what he think, i don't see a real problem...

Until now, these light moderation was more something for calm down... only in a very few case, he have edit/delete post...

I don't know the proportion but these forum have more that 25000 post ... and i think that Dan or the moderation have need to act only in a very few case...

 

[Oosik]

His posts over the years show no serrious intent of marriage, and honestly, little respect for RW.

I am by far not the only person to come to this conclusion, but hey, like it matters. I just know if he said that to my face he'd get a suprise. But then guys like him wouldn't have the nerve to say in person what he types here.

[Bruno]

His posts over the years show no serrious intent of marriage, and honestly, little respect for RW.

Not all people who marry are serious... He have know long term relationship... what is the difference between me who have be married during five year with a RW and Andrew who have life together with a woman during 5 year... very little, only administrative document... 

I don't know for US, but here in Belgium, a official cohabitation is possible... contract similar to marriage without be married... and why hurry to marriage when you are not sure over the commitment...

About respect of RW, he can be hard... again because he use the word "ALL"... but i was myself in the business previously and i have see strange "beast" on both side... hooker, GCG, gold digger , keyboard romeo, sex tourist are real... bad people exist both side... they are not "ALL" but they are these who hurt the more...

Ok, Andrew can be sometime like a ( | ) , but this don't mean that he is always wrong... but it seem that you, Oosik, you have some problem with Andrew who are extern to these forum... Your are here on RWD... it is not RWG, Planet-Love... it is RWD, something very different... you need balls for resit the stream... here, they caress you with rose but they forget remove the small sharp spines.

[Zhena]

Interesting how so many get upset when Andrew gets a little bold or uses a word like 'misfit' for which there are several meanings.

I read his posts quite carefully, even the one Ken mentioned..  I find no insult.

Like many of us he likes to play with words.. I'm surprised so many get sucked in.  He's probably ROFL over this..

Sometimes,the mens psuchology makes me smile... If any woman would write something like this in the womens forum,she would be kicked out immediately.

But actually,it seems to me that andrew is russian...very similar point of view!

[Zhena]

Ok,andrew,so the RW who marry the foreigners,are misfits too? What do u think? Tell ur opinion ok,and I ll tell u is it true or not.

Also,u have to understand one thing. Not everybody likes only his culture and the partners from his country. I know the normal russian guys who married the foreigners-just for example. They are not the misfits,and they are quite rich so no need to relocate. Simply they found something that they didnt see before.

Well,I know u will tell about the purposeful searching. Dunno-I dont see anything wrong in my fiancee(I looked,tried to find). Hes very attractive and a very good person. Why he didnt marry an AW? Once he did,then wasnt lucky with finding a right one. Its not easy to find!

Thats all.

[Bruno]

[user=743]a fiancee[/user] wrote:

But actually,it seems to me that andrew is russian...very similar point of view!

Andrew is not russian but it is funny that a FSU girl like you think that he is russian... maybe he is not so wrong after all...

 

[Zhena]

But actually,it seems to me that andrew is russian...very similar point of view!

Andrew is not russian but it is funny that a FSU girl like you think that he is russian... maybe he is not so wrong after all...

 
[/quote]Why funny,Bruno? I dont know who is he. I am a new here. But his point is same what the RM write on the forums as well. If u think hes right-its ur right. Personally me dont think so.

[Bruno]

[user=743]a fiancee[/user] wrote:

But actually,it seems to me that andrew is russian...very similar point of view!

Andrew is not russian but it is funny that a FSU girl like you think that he is russian... maybe he is not so wrong after all...

 

Why funny,Bruno? I dont know who is he. I am a new here. But his point is same what the RM write on the forums as well. If u think hes right-its ur right. Personally me dont think so.[/quote]
Funny in the meaning that several don't like what he say and that he is from UK... living in FSU...  I don't laught of you, frar from this... but if a FSU women think that he is right... i think that other western man need to think that he cannot be 100% wrong...

I have some problem with his extrem meaning but not with the general meaning... i visit russian forum too... i was agency owner and i have learn the two side of the coin... Don't worry, these post was not about you...

 

[Zhena]

No,Bruno,not about me for sure:) But I said I dont agree. And I feel myself somewhat offended too,u know...I try dont take it too personally. But he insulted(yes,for me it sounds like insulting) many normal guys. Cos he said that only misfits do this.

[BC]

a fiancee,

"mens psuchology".. now that made me smile ear to ear

[Bruno]

[user=743]a fiancee[/user] wrote:

No,Bruno,not about me for sure:) But I said I dont agree. And I feel myself somewhat offended too,u know...I try dont take it too personally. But he insulted(yes,for me it sounds like insulting) many normal guys. Cos he said that only misfits do this.

Replace "misfits" by "no conventional guy" and all will be right... be honestly, a foreign bride is not for everybody... specially FSU one, they are not easy  but the reward in case of success can compensate the problem

I am now go placed for speak about it... my girls is from antidate, she have previously work like translator for marriage agency... herself have see strange think and i was not easy to persuade her that i was a normal guy...

In some case, in forum like here, word go over what really thing... one post don't make Andrew bad... i am here from the second day or the new forum and i have learn to know some of the poster... Andrew is not easy but he is not bad... Myself, i have sometime push him for know a little more about him.

Don't judge someone on only one post but on the global... of course, in the case of oosik and andrew, i know nothing about baggage from other forum...

Tolerance and understanding are keywords... you are not obligate to agree with one meaning but if you reply, use argument, not insult...

Of course, i speak in general... until now, you have insult nobody

[Zhena]

a fiancee,

"mens psuchology".. now that made me smile ear to ear

I am gald I made someone smile-ok-men psychology-sometimes i can type wrong as its fast.

[Zhena]

I think its a useless discussion-anyway nobody will change their mind...

Bruno,I didnt speak only about the marruage agencies guys...Not everyone use it. Maybe in agencies,the most of men are losers,I dont know. I bet ur gf knows better.

[2tallbill]

People who borrow money with no intention of ever repaying it are thieves.

Never loan out money it's a gift. If you actually need it back, don't do it.

[krimster2]

loaning money to poor gopnicks in Russia would be like dumping a bucket of ground beef into the middle of a shark feeding frenzy
you'll get the same unpleasant reaction

since America is becoming more like Russia
you should do in Houston as you do in Moscva
IN PUBLIC ALWAYS BEHAVE LIKE YOU'RE A POOR PEASANT LIKE EVERYONE ELSE
you don't want people begging you for money there

also...
no pity is EVER gonna be shown to YOU
therefor, don't waste yur time feeling sorry for somebody else
especially in Russia
in Russia you must embrace the warm feeling you receive
from enjoying another's misfortune "schadenfreude"
and there's plenty of that going around there
to keep ya high all day

the quick mental calculus of Ukrainian wartime logistics
subtract American support which was over 50% of the total
reduce Canadian and NATO contributions due to tarriffs weakening economy
and by aggressively making and buying weapons, Russia will now out supply Ukraine by at least 6-to-1 and maybe up to 10-1
replace Zelensky with somebody willing to cede half of Ukraine to Russia for "PEACE"
and Putin is almost there

now he needs to find a non sanctioned way for him and Trump to do "BIZNESS"

boris rotenberg had some sanctions removed a few days ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Rotenberg_(businessman)
just like Trump can do tarriffs without congress, he can delete Russian sanctions that get in his way as well
so I guess Rotenberg is part of whatever deal Trump has cooked up for Russia


the big prize will be to reinstate Exxon Mobil's Siberian Drilling combined with US ownership of gas pipelines to the EU
can Trump pull this off with Putin's help?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/eu-may-hand-over-240-billion-to-putin-if-hungary-blocks-sanctions-says-estonia/ar-AA1CmaH6?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=DCTE&cvid=60806ce13ac946a790daf070c82771ee&ei=85

EU may hand over €240 billion to Putin....
will tarriffs spell the end of Ukraine's weapons acquisition? looks like it....

I was at my second anti-Trump/Musk Protest today....
pretty broad spectrum of people, young/old, etc...

straight outta Grozny to Greenwich
to fight for 'de cause'

the 2030s are gonna be "The Collapsealypse"
one falling domino knocks over the next one
from social security to the debt bomb
to the AI career apocalypse
and this is the foundation for the next GREAT WAR to END ALL WARS!!!  NO!!! WE'RE SERIOUS THIS TIME!!!!
no...we're not war profiteers...no...we're simple peace loving folks....

the 2040s will be about the collapse of the historical world order and the death of the middle class
and the new alternate reality that's gonna replace it

[2tallbill]

Something happened today which I feel sums up the feelings most Russians (and Ukrainians) have about guys like us.

Basically we are just a wallet (pocket book) on legs.  The wallet has arms - hey it must have to give away $100 bills but no head because we are supposed to offer to money for any reason and of course never ask for it back!


However to most of our friends and family I became the wallet on legs as soon as we married.  Now my wifes parents are dead so I don't reckon we owe anyone else a living but that is not the way they think.  I have more money than they do.  I should give them money....

My wifes brothers first wife decided that her daughters future was in UK.  I have never even met this woman but she made persistent claims that I should pay for her daughter to come to UK.  I should house, feed and educate her.

Well I managed to side step this request.  I replied that I would support a visa application and that Katya could stay with us but her mother would have to pay for the air fare.  Smart move.  She could not call me a skin flint but I knew there was no chance that she could pay for the air fare.....

Then perhaps our best friend (Sergei) telephoned me and asked to borrow a substantial amount of money supposedly to start a business.  I asked him to e-mail me a business plan outlining his proposals and estimating the cash flow.  Never heard from him again.  Wallets on legs should not have brains!!

My wifes only close family is her brother and his actions today have prompted this thread.  I have been generous with him.  Couple of hundred bucks her and there.  Life has been hard since their father died.  Last year he asked to borrow money and I lent it.  Last week he asked to borrow more ostensibly to modernize his flat.

I baulked.  He has never ever offered to pay me back one cent.  He knows I cannot demand repayment.  After all I am married to his sister.  So I discussed this situation at length with my wife.  We agreed not to lend more money but to send a gift of $100.

I just got off the phone with her brother.  I am a greedy - why won't I lend the money!

Simple I say - you will never pay it back.

He then says he has friends who will lend him this money.  I am family and won't.

Fine I say.  Borrow the money from your friends.

Then he shouts that he will never borrow money from me again in the future!!

Loooong silence from me.

He shouts "You can keep your money!!"

I reply "Well you know where the Western Union office is.  Send it back".

End of conversation.

I find this situation very sad.  He has forced my wife into taking sides. Of course he does not realize that this was OUR view.  My wife will be a British citizen soon.  Our child already is.  She has never seen me as a wallet on legs!

Maybe we can spend our summer holidays somewhere civilized in future....



 

Aside from a few kopecks sent to Smiley Girl which, I knew I was marrying along with her mother (Angel Eyes),
nobody asked for any money or loans. 

[olgac]

good for You, Bill! But in general it's very common. My parents never asked because they themselves moved here on H1B,
but all my friend's relatives do ask for money, it's very common for anyone form a poor country to think money grows on trees in US and of course American relatives can help. It's even more true with Thai or Philippino women.
Also eventualy many FSU women bring their parents (usually just mom) over to live in their household snd then
she will have expensive medical insurance, doctor bills etc. This is to be expected