Author Topic: Some one will know this (Read 21526 times)

RacerX · « **Reply #50 on:** September 12, 2005, 07:10:52 AM »

PeeWee,

I think we would all need more information before speculating what your g/f is talking about.

Did you ascertain how long she lived in the US prior to leaving, and how long has she been gone? BTW, if she was a permanent resident, normally she would file an I-131 which would have allowed her to stay away for an extended time. An I-191 is normally used because of, say, a criminal conviction while outside the US. Also, she would have needed to stay outside the US for more than 6 months, typically more than one year before she would have been considered to have abandoned her LPR.

OTOH, if she entered on a K-1 and left, that's fine, all you will need to do is apply for another.

I'm not aware of any circumstance where the USCIS would automatically mail her something following her entry at a POE. The good news is that a really competent immigration attny can often find loopholes to reverse what may seem a hopeless situation. The US immigration attnys get preferential treatment (for example, they have a special phone line to USCIS) and can often do things you can't.

So let us know more when you find out.

Michelangelo · « **Reply #51 on:** September 12, 2005, 07:25:35 AM »

Quote from: jb

This case is probably being handled at a higher level anyway simply because it is being submitted by a lawyer. This will make the case officers pay closer attention to dotting the "i"'s and crossing the "t"'s, no one wants to be seen as unprofessional. Unfortunately for her, these case officers are not lawyers themselves and everybody gets a kick out of tweaking a lawyer's nose and winning, that's human nature.

So, is it better to do the paperwork ourselves, and not use a lawyer?

jb · « **Reply #52 on:** September 12, 2005, 07:35:45 AM »

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So, is it better to do the paperwork ourselves, and not use a lawyer?

If your case is fairly simple and straight forward,,, yes. That's what I'd recommend. This is not rocket science. Do it yourself and save a bundle.

Michelangelo · « **Reply #53 on:** September 12, 2005, 07:41:48 AM »

Yep, the K-1 lawyer I talked with in California wanted 1800 bucks...but says he has never been denied...

jb · « **Reply #54 on:** September 12, 2005, 07:44:06 AM »

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but says he has never been denied...

Neither has anyone else who ever submitted a properly completed application. You don't need a lawyer for this, do it yourself.

It ain't that hard.

Michelangelo · « **Reply #55 on:** September 12, 2005, 07:50:31 AM »

Quote from: jb

but says he has never been denied...

Neither has anyone else who ever submitted a properly completed application. You don't need a lawyer for this, do it yourself.

It ain't that hard.[/quote]OK, I think I will! Now I just have to find the best girl

jb · « **Reply #56 on:** September 12, 2005, 08:01:16 AM »

Now your talkin' sense.

RacerX · « **Reply #57 on:** September 12, 2005, 09:45:06 AM »

I second what jb said - if you look around this board, some members have actually had their K-1 attny screw things up!

Where you might want a lawyer is: (1) she has kids and the ex- is being a jerk, (2) she's had probs with past visas (not tourist ones), or (3) she overstayed a visa or had a minor run-in with the law. One guy I know has staff in Moscow/Kiev so he makes it very easy for the girls. For a straight forward K-1 you're better off doing it yourself.

jb · « **Reply #58 on:** September 12, 2005, 10:04:19 AM »

Yes, I can recall several cases where the atty was an impediment to progess, not the other way around. As I recall, even poor old Clyde had that problem for a time.

If your gal has a clean slate, and you've had no problems with the law, there is no reason to hire a high priced lawyer to fill in the blanks for you. Download the forms at:
http://uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/index.htm
study them thouroughly, get your documents together, sort out the things you need from her, and just do it. The instructions could not be more clear, just do it.

Approval is virtually assured.

Michelangelo · « **Reply #59 on:** September 12, 2005, 01:06:32 PM »

Great...now I know!

Any of you married guys got wives with little sisters?

RacerX · « **Reply #60 on:** September 12, 2005, 02:10:05 PM »

While this may only loosely be tied to the topic, there is quite a number of girls who came over on K-1s and stayed. On the one hand, they are normally very attractive, know English, and would save you a ton of money traveling, but alas, their ex would probably say a few things negative about them! I can't remember where, but many of them frequent a couple of the RW forums - I'm sure with a little searching, one could figure out which one.

Michael - guys are always asking my wife the same question, but as you may know, most FSU families consist of only 1 or 2 children, so the probability of an eligible sister is usually small.

Michelangelo · « **Reply #61 on:** September 12, 2005, 04:38:47 PM »

You are correct--most of the girls I have met have had only one brother or sister.. Thanks for sharing.

jb · « **Reply #62 on:** September 12, 2005, 04:50:17 PM »

My wife is an only child...

The Russian Women Abroad forum used to have a "Second Hand Wives" department, some were attractive, others were very average. The gallery can be seen here:
http://www.geocities.com/rwomabroad/fr_gallen.html

PeeWee · « **Reply #63 on:** September 12, 2005, 05:09:33 PM »

Quote from: RacerX

PeeWee,

I think we would all need more information before speculating what your g/f is talking about.

Did you ascertain how long she lived in the US prior to leaving, and how long has she been gone? BTW, if she was a permanent resident, normally she would file an I-131 which would have allowed her to stay away for an extended time. An I-191 is normally used because of, say, a criminal conviction while outside the US. Also, she would have needed to stay outside the US for more than 6 months, typically more than one year before she would have been considered to have abandoned her LPR.

OTOH, if she entered on a K-1 and left, that's fine, all you will need to do is apply for another.

I'm not aware of any circumstance where the USCIS would automatically mail her something following her entry at a POE. The good news is that a really competent immigration attny can often find loopholes to reverse what may seem a hopeless situation. The US immigration attnys get preferential treatment (for example, they have a special phone line to USCIS) and can often do things you can't.

So let us know more when you find out.

I do not know what visa she used to enter but it was not a K-1 because there was no guy waiting here for her, other than me. And I did not sponsor her. She stayed only about 4 weeks and then left but she did ask someone at immigrations if she could do that and she was told, "yes." What I thinkhappened is that she did not understand that while it was ok to leave the US that she had to file some kind of form to do that. She wants to eventually return but when she contacted the US embassy they told her a different story than the one she got from BCIS. So I told her that the best thing to do was to retain a lawyer. She did and that is where we are today.

PeeWee

BC · « **Reply #64 on:** September 12, 2005, 08:48:09 PM »

Quote from: PeeWee

I do not know what visa she used to enter but it was not a K-1 because there was no guy waiting here for her, other than me.

PeeWee,

You state several times that her visa is not a K-1, have spoken to her lawyer before, known this girl 3 years, know there is a sponsor, had a medical, has a SSN card(or maybe just applied for), stayed for 4 weeks, is a situation that would never apply to others, will not mention how long ago this all took place etc etc.. all without knowing what type of visa she has AND you base your assumption at least in part on the fact that another guy was not waiting for her?

There is no law that says the sponsor has to pick her up.

Plenty of relationship end during the 'process' but the 'process' does not stop if the sponsor does not make appropriate notifications.

I wonder what I would do if I were a RW that unexpectedly received a visa interview notice, had some supporting documents and funds/time to travel..

Anyway this is all getting a bit trollish..

Turboguy · « **Reply #65 on:** September 13, 2005, 03:26:03 AM »

I looked hard at the quesion of doing it myself or having an attorney. The more I looked the more I realized an attorney is the worst possible choice.

PeeWee · « **Reply #66 on:** September 13, 2005, 04:20:34 AM »

Quote from: BC

I do not know what visa she used to enter but it was not a K-1 because there was no guy waiting here for her, other than me.

PeeWee,

You state several times that her visa is not a K-1, have spoken to her lawyer before, known this girl 3 years, know there is a sponsor, had a medical, has a SSN card(or maybe just applied for), stayed for 4 weeks, is a situation that would never apply to others, will not mention how long ago this all took place etc etc.. all without knowing what type of visa she has AND you base your assumption at least in part on the fact that another guy was not waiting for her?

There is no law that says the sponsor has to pick her up.

Plenty of relationship end during the 'process' but the 'process' does not stop if the sponsor does not make appropriate notifications.

I wonder what I would do if I were a RW that unexpectedly received a visa interview notice, had some supporting documents and funds/time to travel..

Anyway this is all getting a bit trollish..

[/quote]
you got the picture, BC. Bravo. But you know what? I got what I needed from this thread. No point in belaboring it so I am out of this one. Thanks, jb, you are a wealth of knowledge.

PeeWee

Michelangelo · « **Reply #67 on:** September 13, 2005, 05:09:40 AM »

Quote from: PeeWee

When an immigrant processes through a port of entry (such as NY) they surrender their documents. There is a waiting period of two to three months and then they are mailed a temporary green card? or some other status document. What is the name of this document? How long does it take for it to arrive in the mail? Is there a website or an office to call for status?

I don't think you ever got this question, that started the thread, answered. But as side chatter, I did get my mind changed about using an attorney for the K-1. So at least I benefited.....thanks, PeeWee

PeeWee · « **Reply #68 on:** September 21, 2005, 06:59:14 AM »

Quote from: Michael

When an immigrant processes through a port of entry (such as NY) they surrender their documents. There is a waiting period of two to three months and then they are mailed a temporary green card? or some other status document. What is the name of this document? How long does it take for it to arrive in the mail? Is there a website or an office to call for status?

I don't think you ever got this question, that started the thread, answered. But as side chatter, I did get my mind changed about using an attorney for the K-1. So at least I benefited.....thanks, PeeWee

[/quote]
yes, i never did get the quetion answered, until now. I spoke to the attorney. She gave me a phone number and a website www.uscis.gov. At the website we can check the status of Lara's immigration process. I also found out that she entered the US on an immigration visa. I suspected that but was not sure until now.

So now you are going to ask why the attorney did not check the status herself. Because,although Lara is speaking to the attorney, they are having conversations without Lara having actually paid the attorney. The attorney is trying to help her, for the time being, pro bono. Which means that Lara is doing her own leg work on this. With my help. I finally told both the attorney and lara to get a contract drawn up and get some money exchanged so this process can move forward. I suppose women have their own way of doing thing and since both are RW I suppose too that this adds to the complexity of the process.

Lara should be back from her business trip next week. We then can check the status of her visa process via the internet. Keep that website address handy. You will save yourself 3 or 4 pages of discussion for it. With that said, thanks to those who tried to get me an answer to my vague question.

PeeWee

Michelangelo · « **Reply #69 on:** September 21, 2005, 07:14:55 AM »

Quote from: PeeWee

When an immigrant processes through a port of entry (such as NY) they surrender their documents. There is a waiting period of two to three months and then they are mailed a temporary green card? or some other status document. What is the name of this document? How long does it take for it to arrive in the mail? Is there a website or an office to call for status?

I don't think you ever got this question, that started the thread, answered. But as side chatter, I did get my mind changed about using an attorney for the K-1. So at least I benefited.....thanks, PeeWee

[/quote]
yes, i never did get the quetion answered, until now. I spoke to the attorney. She gave me a phone number and a website www.uscis.gov. At the website we can check the status of Lara's immigration process. I also found out that she entered the US on an immigration visa. I suspected that but was not sure until now.

So now you are going to ask why the attorney did not check the status herself. Because,although Lara is speaking to the attorney, they are having conversations without Lara having actually paid the attorney. The attorney is trying to help her, for the time being, pro bono. Which means that Lara is doing her own leg work on this. With my help. I finally told both the attorney and lara to get a contract drawn up and get some money exchanged so this process can move forward. I suppose women have their own way of doing thing and since both are RW I suppose too that this adds to the complexity of the process.

Lara should be back from her business trip next week. We then can check the status of her visa process via the internet. Keep that website address handy. You will save yourself 3 or 4 pages of discussion for it. With that said, thanks to those who tried to get me an answer to my vague question.

PeeWee
[/quote]I'm glad to hear that your are making progress, PeeWee! And yes, I have noticed that Russian women DO NOT like to spend money--they are very tightfisted

Myself, I remember almost being killed by my FSU girl when I tipped too much in South America. I guess she wanted me to save that money to spend on her

I am glad you are spending this money for the attorney and I hope it makes the process both more clear and efficent.

PeeWee · « **Reply #70 on:** September 21, 2005, 07:47:06 AM »

Quote from: Michael

When an immigrant processes through a port of entry (such as NY) they surrender their documents. There is a waiting period of two to three months and then they are mailed a temporary green card? or some other status document. What is the name of this document? How long does it take for it to arrive in the mail? Is there a website or an office to call for status?

I don't think you ever got this question, that started the thread, answered. But as side chatter, I did get my mind changed about using an attorney for the K-1. So at least I benefited.....thanks, PeeWee

[/quote]
yes, i never did get the quetion answered, until now. I spoke to the attorney. She gave me a phone number and a website http://www.uscis.gov. At the website we can check the status of Lara's immigration process. I also found out that she entered the US on an immigration visa. I suspected that but was not sure until now.

So now you are going to ask why the attorney did not check the status herself. Because,although Lara is speaking to the attorney, they are having conversations without Lara having actually paid the attorney. The attorney is trying to help her, for the time being, pro bono. Which means that Lara is doing her own leg work on this. With my help. I finally told both the attorney and lara to get a contract drawn up and get some money exchanged so this process can move forward. I suppose women have their own way of doing thing and since both are RW I suppose too that this adds to the complexity of the process.

Lara should be back from her business trip next week. We then can check the status of her visa process via the internet. Keep that website address handy. You will save yourself 3 or 4 pages of discussion for it. With that said, thanks to those who tried to get me an answer to my vague question.

PeeWee
[/quote]I'm glad to hear that your are making progress, PeeWee! And yes, I have noticed that Russian women DO NOT like to spend money--they are very tightfisted

Myself, I remember almost being killed by my FSU girl when I tipped too much in South America. I guess she wanted me to save that money to spend on her

I am glad you are spending this money for the attorney and I hope it makes the process both more clear and efficent.[/quote]
Thanks, Michael. With one correction. She is going to pay for the attorney. I had noting to do with her immigration, that was her idea. I did offer to pay for the attorney but she got mad at me. "I will do it myself! I do not need your help!" She is very very independant in that regard yet she no problems asking me for money when she does not need it. There is no logic to it. She may change her mind when she finds out her attorney is at $225.00 per hour. LOL!

PeeWee

PeeWee · « **Reply #71 on:** September 30, 2005, 07:42:40 AM »

Finally, Larrisa and I had a chance to get together to contact the USCIS regarding the status of her immigration. After talking to 3 seperate agents and larrisa in a three way converstation, all I can say is that I learned a few things about the process.

Regarding her green card. You all know this but I didn't. The waiting time for one to receive this document is now up to one year. If one cannot work without this card then us guys pretty much have a total dependent for a year or so. We did find out that she can visit our local immigration office to have her visa extended untill she gets said card and that, if in 5 months time has passed, and she has not got the card, we can fill a G731T.

Just show your passport to the agents at the immigration office the guys that we spoke to said and they will extend the visa time limit. Now all we have to do is to figure out how to get her back into the country so that she can visit our local immigrations office. Ok, now it's time for the lawyer to get serious about this.

That is all I know for now. Thanks for your help.

PeeWee

BC · « **Reply #72 on:** September 30, 2005, 08:35:13 AM »

The border is not the problem.. Heck you could probably paraglide into the us and nobody would notice. The entry and exit stamps already in her passport will be the real deal breaker. I don't think they hire dummies.

Come clean with the lawyer and follow his advice however hard that is.

PeeWee · « **Reply #73 on:** September 30, 2005, 08:58:55 AM »

Quote from: BC

The border is not the problem.. Heck you could probably paraglide into the us and nobody would notice. The entry and exit stamps already in her passport will be the real deal breaker. I don't think they hire dummies.

Come clean with the lawyer and follow his advice however hard that is.

BC, you assume so much. Each page of the passport has been faxed to the lawyer. No one is hiding anything. Where do you come up with this conspiracy theory stuff? This entire process has involved both CIS and the attorney. She read the visa information to the agent verbatum. From that he told her how to proceed. Unless he was trying to trick her then his instructions she will follow.

PeeWee

jb · « **Reply #74 on:** September 30, 2005, 08:59:06 AM »

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If one cannot work without this card then us guys pretty much have a total dependent for a year or so.

This is why we file for the EAD.

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