Be honest: Why are you looking for a woman in Russia and other countries of FSU

[OlgaH]

Can the men on this board be honest and tell the truth.

My question is Why are you looking for a life partner in Russia, Ukraine and other countries of FSU?

Why do I ask?

My question to one of the members of this board was

Do you want to say that guys on this board, guys who are looking for a life partner, go around the world just because their looks and assets do not let them to date and marry a local woman?

and he answered

Most times yes, and most times they will claim other reasons (search for a more traditional woman, cultured women, etc...). If you look at the postings, the most common complaints that always comes up is that American women are overweight (to put it politely). If the men in the MOB thought they could get an equally attractive women at home, few would ever leave their homes in search of foreign brides.

Is it true that the most of the members on this board are looking for a woman abroad because they can not get an equally attractive women at home and reason is their looks and assets do not let them date and marry a local woman?

Are you one of that men?

Please be honest and give your answer, your main reason.

[Chicagoguy]

Well, this ought to get some answers !

I came to the dance backwards. I was going to Russia for business and ended up making good friends there [ men ]. This all started in 1992. I ended up going over quite a few times and some of these friends came here to the U.S, including couples. But I couldn't help but notice the Russian women and thought they were very appealing. As chance would have it I was happily married during these times.

I do not dislike American women but I believe Western men have a chance for a better "deal" in Russia. Or other FSU States. My wife died over 1 year ago so I began corresponding with Russian women. Mainly because I understood Russia best.

And what about the women? Why are thay looking ?

[OlgaH]

Well, this ought to get some answers !

I do not dislike American women but I believe Western men have a chance for a better "deal" in Russia.

What exactly do you mean saying  "Western men have a chance for a better "deal" in Russia? What a "deal" you are talking about?

And what about the women? Why are thay looking ?

I think it can be a separate thread 

[ca71447]

... if by assets you mean finances - if a man can't get afford to find a woman here (USA), it seems like it would be foolish to try to find one over in the FSU as the cost of the search would be way more expensive than courting someone local.  I think part of it is that most really good looking women in the USA are very picky about who they will go out with.  I have been turned down just because I'm bald.  And I am in excellent physical shape.  I have actually been called "very well stacked" by some casual female (married) friends at work.  And as for age ... I broke up with my last girlfriend partly because she was too young (33).  And let me tell you, she was very, very beautiful.  But, as I said, I have had AW scorn me for being bald and for having a lot of body hair!  The few experiences I have had with foreign women, none of this was any kind of a problem.  They were far more accepting of me exactly how I am.  For some they may be looking because they think they can easily get some sweet young thing.  And I know of one person in particular who did just that.  The man is my age, but looks several years older and he in NOT in very good shape.  But he is a millionaire ... so at 61 he has hooked up with a 26 yr old girl.  And he plans to marry her.  And if you only knew the rest of that story .... I think you'd want to join me and try to slap some sense into him ....

[heelbilly]

I am looking because I have had 3 long term relationships (9 yrs/3yrs and my marriage of 14 yrs) all of which ended due my mates lack of respect for our relationship and in some cases cheating...The attitudes of Russian/Ukrainian women seem much different as it relates to marriage, family, and their devotion, than those here in the USA..I may be wrong about that, but I figure if I keep doing the same thing over and over again with the same result, how stupid am I? Therefore, I have decided to try something different with the hopes of a better outcome.

[SANDRO43]

I think it can be a separate thread

There already is one from last year, called "Ladies, why are you looking ..." in the board monitored by Lily, IIRC .

[Misha]

Therefore, I have decided to try something different with the hopes of a better outcome.

But why RW? There are thousands of cultures across the world, why choose the FSU?

[OlgaH]

... if by assets you mean finances - if a man can't get afford to find a woman here (USA), it seems like it would be foolish to try to find one over in the FSU as the cost of the search would be way more expensive than courting someone local. 

If I understood you  you don't have any problem to date a local woman just because your assets don't let you do so,  and it is not your reason why you are looking a woman overseas. If not please correct me. 

I think part of it is that most really good looking women in the USA are very picky about who they will go out with.
 But, as I said, I have had AW scorn me for being bald and for having a lot of body hair!  The few experiences I have had with foreign women, none of this was any kind of a problem. 

Is your look a reason to search a woman overseas, because AW scorn you?

[OlgaH]

There already is one from last year, called "Ladies, why are you looking ..." in the board monitored by Lily, IIRC .

Thanks Sandro, we will find it 

[Enot]

Honestly, after getting to know women from the FSU I liked their goals in life and the way they think.  It seems that FSU women and I are more compatible then I with American women. 

[docetae]

Separated with 3 children 50% of the time at 33, all women in same situation than me, with same level in life (stable life, good job, same interests) were over 40. Second factor was physical, I am 6ft6, trying to stay in good shape and I am not attracted at all by women under 5ft9 or fat.

So when I subscribed to a local dating site, there was only 4 women who were a match in my city... I met two of them and nothing "clicked" . In north america, trying to find a woman who will want to relocate to start a new life is almost impossible...Third factor, I am french, living in Canada and by experience now, I know that my view on life is more close to an european or FSU woman than a north american one.

My first contact with FSU was for work and aviation and I discovered the possibilities to build a relationship were existing too: highly educated women, with same situation in life than me (early 30 with child or children).

Last factor is from my family history, we are all over the world and traveling is part of our genetic now I think. I have family in Chile, Luxembourg, UK and France. My father spent 20 years in south america, my grand father was living in Tunisia, one aunt was married to a British governor during colonial time in west Africa, one another to a civil engineer and spent a large part of her life in Indochine. So this was almost a natural process !

[mark2353]

I was married for 14 yrs to a woman that was very attractive, very self centered and had zero respect for money!   Refuse to work because we had one child which she had constant sitters for "help". Then we had house cleaners...... what did she do????
Before finding out about the Russian women I looked on too tried the local dating sites and most of the interested ladies were 5 to 10 yrs older (I am not even going to discuss looks or education!).
 Then believe or not saved by scam lady! Which I started to research and landed on EM dating site. Well nothing to loose so..
Also having traveled quite extensive and having been born in another country at times I find that I have very little in common with AW personality.   
After writing to a few I discovered a gold mine!  highly educated, sincere, very attractive.  
Finally after meeting one of these ladies in person a very caring and someone. I would be happy to share the rest of my life with.  

[Sculpto]

As I have written in other threads I came into this somewhat backwards also.  I went to Ukraine the first time chasing my roots and along the way discovered the beauty of the women.  On one hand I never had a problem dating great women here, and some of them were quite a bit younger than me, but, I always became fed up with selfishness and a variety of self esteem issues and ended the relationships.  By the time I went to Ukraine I was feeling really down on the idea of ever finding a woman that would make me happy.  It was the sweet nature of Ukrainian ladies that made me decide to persue this goal in earnest.

[SANDRO43]

Thanks Sandro, we will find it 

It's "Ladies, why did you decide to search for a mate abroad ?", topic=5404.

[felix8787]

Well Olga,
In responce to you thinking that I am shy or something about as to why I am looking abroad. In my locality, I have dated skinny, average and a few bigger then myself women, they have been ugly, average, good looking and hot, some I would not consider marriage others I have given it though but decided against it. Some were emotionally handicapped, some had substance abuse problems, others drug problems. Some were interesting others were not. Dated younger and older women. All had one thing in common, no respect for the relationship.

I have been interested in FSU women for sometime now, but never acted on it, until last year. Does them looking good have anything to do with it...sure, who wouldn't want to be with a good looking woman, but it is not everything.

If you rated yourself say a 9, would you marry a 3? Probably not, unless you have ulterior motives. That being said, I don't know what I would rate myself at, I have been told everything from being ugly to being hot, fat or stocky, it is all in what that woman wants and likes.

At this point in my life, I am not interested in AW. Why FSU, don't know really, I have always been keen to European women and made friends with a Russian woman here 3 years ago and I guess that is where my interest in FSU woman came from and I have met some more here also but always kept my friendship with her and to this day she appreciates my friendship also.

For me there isn't any one specific point as to why I am interested in FSU.

felix8787

One more thing.....as far as "Main Reason" there isn't one main reason, not for me anyways...example: "like I'm going to go to FSU to find a blonde RW and nothing else." I'm sure there are many reasons as to why a man would want a FSU woman and not just rely on one specific main point about a FSU woman.

felix8787

[OlgaH]

felix8787,

As I understand from your post neither your look nor your assets are the main reason why you are looking for a woman abroad, and you are not one of that men who are relative "most time" in my first post in this thread,  and you did not have any problem with your look and assets to date any local woman Only one problem was all that woman had no respect for the relationship.

Do you want to meet a woman who is not only attractive, but also have respect for the relationship?

[Ooooops]

What do you mean by "respect for the relationship"?   

[kievstar]

I date women all over the World as I travel a lot, however, I do want to live in Ukraine in the future.  Living abroad was a problem with my AW (of 10 years) - great lady by they way.  I changed not her.  I like moving around from country to country. But Ukraine is my favorite by far.  I fit in very well culturally there.  More so than the USA.  But USA and Bush are always number 1 for me.

So in past 6 months I have dated in several countries - USA, Belgium, Ukraine, etc.  However, I have never found a girl outside Ukraine who would live in Ukraine.  So I decided to focus on Ukraine and get a Ukraine girlfriend 2 months ago which I did.  I lived in Kiev in past and will live there again.

About three years ago I went to Chicago thinking I had a hot blind date but was a try out for a popular television program in USA called "Bachelor".  Friends played a joke on me.   Anyways got called back twice and was set to be trained for 3 months for the show but I met a girl in Ukraine on business and did not go on the show.  Dated this girl in Ukraine for almost two years and than moved to Ukraine after breakup to do business. 

I have a very good girl right now in Ukraine and visit her several times a month.  But I was open in past year to girls in any country but they will need to be comfortable to live in Ukraine.  Not many women will do this outside Ukraine.

I have never had a problem meeting women and women liking me.  But I always try to improve myself and listen to criticism. I do take a lot of grief from American men telling me why date a girl overseas you can get any girl you want in USA.  Also, why I would want to live in Ukraine.  But AW tend to think it is very romantic that I fly several times a month to visit my girlfriend.     

[Ooooops]

kievstar, where are you from originally if it's not a secret?

[Lily]

Is it true that the most of the members on this board are looking for a woman abroad because they can not get an equally attractive women at home and reason is their looks and assets do not let them date and marry a local woman?

 

Olga, you may remember MaxxumUSA who went to Samara to find his woman. He is wealthy and very attractive, I have had a pleasure to met him in person. His character and personality makes him the best of a man. You might think what his chances in the USA were, and why he was looking for a RW.

Another most recent case would be IMHO ambach123. Another handsome and rich guy, a great catch for anyone. I guess he probably found in Ukraine what he was looking for.

Just a few examples on the topic.

[Ade]

Can the men on this board be honest and tell the truth.

My question is Why are you looking for a life partner in Russia, Ukraine and other countries of FSU?

...

Please be honest and give your answer, your main reason.

I guess I'm one of the few here that didn't go looking for a FSUW, in fact, over years that I have been meeting and dating people online (more than most I guess) I've actively avoided Eastern Europeans and Filipino women for all the obvious reasons.

The only reason I'm dating my incredible girlfriend now is that her first email to me caught my eye (she was able to extract an encoded email address in a very old profile on a dating site I hadn't been active on for a long time), and the rest is history.

I have doubted my sanity on occasion as I've done the international dating/marriage thing before with a Norwegian; it's a PITA, frustrating and, for those without a bottomless barrel of money, quite expensive until you are actually living together.

I've always dated women that are younger than me, not that I actively go out of my way to look for much younger women; it just seems to happen that way. In Norway I've had attractive girlfriends 10 years my junior but this is probably the biggest age difference to date at 13 years and although it concerned me at first, she says that not only is it not an issue, but that she prefers and has always dated older guys.

To be honest, I  don't see the big difference between FSUW and Western European women that people talk about, at least not in attitudes; their average looks are on a par with Scandinavians I'd say but they also have a lot of very good looking women walking around.
But then again, I don't have vast experience with Russian women, so what do I know, right?

I must admit to finding it quite bizarre that men deliberately go out of their way to only to date FSUW because of some preconceived idea that they are the holy grail of womanhood. In my experience, covering several Western European countries, you can find good, attractive women just about anywhere.

[Ooooops]

Just a few examples on the topic.

I don't buy it.   If you have to jump through the hoops to get something then there has to be a flaw in the equation.    

[felix8787]

felix8787,

Do you want to meet a woman who is not only attractive, but also have respect for the relationship?

Of course OlgaH, there are other factors also, like love, chemistry, compatibility, understanding, trust, respect etc etc.. I'm not going to get into a list of things.

What do you mean by "respect for the relationship"?  

Respect meaning: Don't keep little secrets thinking that they won't effect the relationship (drug habit, drinking habit or any other habit). If you have problems let that person know. If you keep in contact with ex's have respect and let the other person know and not hide that fact. Trust in the other person. Lying to safeguard the relationship. Hm, I think that is enough examples to get the meaning of where I am going with this Ooooops. Hope that clarifies it.

felix8787

[Ooooops]

Respect meaning: Don't keep little secrets thinking that they won't effect the relationship (drug habit, drinking habit or any other habit). If you have problems let that person know.

Oh, you mean to disclose your shortcomings before getting any deeper into relationships?   But I think that drug habits or drinking habits or any other habits are hard to hide if they are true habits.   

And still, I wouldn't call that disclosure "respect for the relationship".    I see totally different thing behind these words...

[Chicagoguy]

OlgaH

I probably should not have used the term "a better deal". It was just shorthand for what many of the guys here have said.
 
I found the Russian women more feminine. Working to take good care of themselves and careful how they dressed. But even more was the attention they payed to me.
Slightly more subservient. So far !? And yes, maybe a few years younger and a little better looking than the women available here for me.

Could I have found this in an American woman - yes. How long would this take - maybe years.

But these are MY experiences. Of course others will have different ones.