Why not Colombian women instead? Why Russian?

[Faux Pas]

Classy, bland, stylish, sexy, slutty, pretty, beautiful and ugly are all subjective descriptions leaving much room for interpretation. Everyone on this forum could have a different idea of which is which. For example, many years I wouldn't have a woman that wasn't a bit on the "trashy" side. During that time I saw that as classy but trashy. As I got up in the years I preferred less trashy and more classy. It is all a matter of preference.

My fiancee doesn't wear heels or clothes that leave little to the imagination. She is beautiful without a bit of make up but, wouldn't dare going out of the house without some on or without being dressed to the nines. I find her look classy. Many of you may find her look bland but I see her as beautiful.

[OlgaH]

Time to time I like to watch an American TV-show What not to wear. It is interesting to see a reaction of husbands and relatives when women change their shapeless T-shirt or some kind of weird clothes to a nice dress, fixes their hair, put proper makeup and appear in front of their men so beautiful, that some husbands even start to cry of delight    

[Gator]

SJ, I'm guessing you're not a fan of Karina Barbie

She's an odd-looking provincial girl who has achieved some kitsch fame (and more notoriety) in Russia.

Odd-looking is an understatement, yet nice tits.  She dresses like a Walmart cashier who has just spent her tax refund on a new wardrobe.

That link needs a warning.  What a bunch of crap.  

[Gator]

One thing has not changed; she always does her hair and face before she goes out, even to the grocery store.  That is one cultural difference that I think will not change for her.

Each RW is unique.  My wife will go to the grocery story in flip flops, no makeup, and hair tied back.  Still looks fabulous.

[Gator]

I do judge those women and girls, and find them guilty of the crime against common sense and good taste. The verdict: most of them look vulgar and cheap.

Exactly.

Me and my girlfriends were lucky to be able to travel abroad when we were teenagers, look at the styles in the Western countries, and see that something is really wrong with the way women are trying to look so aggressively  sexy back in the FSU.

Even for dyevs who can not afford to travel, they still could study ads in fashion magazines.  So I am puzzled why they think they look good.  So many are so WRONG!


 

[Chillidog]

back to the OP's question.

personal preference!

for me being of Eastern European decent. this is the look I prefer. I enjoy and focus on light colored skin, a bit on the tall side (has to be at least 168 cm), thin and NOT "top heavy" (prefer small and perky). and for me I prefer blonds but would not kick out of bed a brunette/red head that had a pretty face and beautiful eyes. The look of the South/Central American, Asian, Middle East, even the Italian/Greece (Mediterranean) woman is different and does not appeal to me (and I am also 1/2 Italian)

for me looking in South/Central America would be like looking for a needle in a haystack, possible but is it worth the effort

[OlgaH]

Each RW is unique.  My wife will go to the grocery story in flip flops, no makeup, and hair tied back.  Still looks fabulous.

But I think she looks at herself in the mirror before leaving and "hair tied back" means she fixes her hair  

[Gator]

OK, I will enter this pissing contest about RW fashion.

First, I wish to say something nice about our lovely RW.  RW eyes are the most beautiful in the world, even better than their Scandinavian sisters IMO.  And those full, soft lips.  Mama mia!

Now to the points most frequently criticized about RW style.

Makeup - I noticed an inverse correlation between education and dreadful, pancake makeup.  There are plenty of RW who wear minimal makeup and look wonderful.

High heels - Comfort does not seem to be an option with most RW. For sure, the young, tall, thin dyevs with legs to their shoulders do look great in heels if they know how to walk (and some don't).  I suppose the majority of RW see these glorious examples and assume that all they need are the heels to look just as good.  WRONG!  Form should follow function.

Tight clothing - Such is almost universal among FSU women.  Yeah, many RW have great bodies; however, a great body is adequately apparent in stylish, loose fitting pants if made of high quality material.  In fact, I find such far more inviting than skintight crap.  My ex-fiancee shunned tight clothing even though her 5' 8" frame was splendidly slender and lithe.  She learned this from having worked as a European and Moscow fashion model for 14 years.

Eyebrows - Some RW do butcher their eyebrows.  RW on average have little body hair, and I wonder if that trait extends to thin eyebrows.  Because my wife has light hair, she says her eyebrows do not show (I see that in her daughter).  So, she had her  eyebrows tattooed (and they look great).  BTW, she says that she has not noticed good tattooed eyebrows in America.

[Gator]

SJ, reason I think it is easy as I know many women in Brussels and America who are thin after children.  Why, because they want to be in good shape.  But someone has to want to be in shape.  Of course body changes but people need to adapt. 

Kievstar, what will you do if your future wife does not regain her teenage body if she has children?

[groovlstk]

She dresses like a Walmart cashier who has just spent her tax refund on a new wardrobe.

She's a complete tramp and dim-witted, but her appeal is that she's 100% genuine and totally unselfconscious - I would guess that she mistakenly thinks she's achieved some fame because she's sexy yet people watch her because she's a curiosity.   

That link needs a warning.  What a bunch of crap.  

Noted and rectified in my original post.

[ScottinCrimea]

Okay, my turn to jump in.  In my opinion, you can find beautiful women anywhere, but it seems there are a higher percentage in the FSU that fit my definition of beautiful.  Nowhere else that I have traveled have I found my jaw dropping every five minutes.  In the US this would happen at best once a week.  The other thing that makes them attractive to me is that they dress to enhance their femininity, not distract from it.  Of course there are women who go over the top, and perhaps more in the FSU because they more often make the effort to appear sexy and don't quite get it right.  Still, there are men to whom this appeals and the women must be getting some positive feedback or they wouldn't dress this way.  I wonder sometimes from whom Tammy Fae baker got her feedback.

I knew I had been away from Ukraine for too long when my stepdaughter arrived in the US.  Her style of dress was definitely NOT what one would see in a 17 year old in the US.  Not trashy, but a bit lot more sexy that an American father likes to see.  Shopping for school clothes, she is looking at what someone here would only wear for a night out but that would seem perfectly normal there.  Where some men here might see such dress as a come on, it would not be considered as such there.  There is much to be said for the cultural differences, not only the personal preferences.  I quite like how she looks, but I know it could send the wrong message here so I 'll need to have her tone it down a bit.  As for her make-up, she does a nice job and it enhances her good features rather than distracting from them.

[Daveman]

...
First, I wish to say something nice about our lovely RW.  RW eyes are the most beautiful in the world, even better than their Scandinavian sisters IMO.  And those full, soft lips.  Mama mia!
...

Yes indeed.  Those eyes are definitely my knockout drops...

[kievstar]

Gator, good question.  How my fiance looks is her personal choice not mine.  I could care less if she is heavy or thin in the future - not reason I am marrying her.  My only point is if you really want to be in good shape it is not hard.  But people need to have a positive attitude and want to be in good shape.  Weight loss is very mental and stress can cause weight gain.  The main thing is understand what makes you gain weight and what makes you lose.  Than be strict and do not do the things that make you gain weight. 

My fiance did tell me I want to look in good shape for you but you want many kids.  I told her than stay in good shape and kids no excuse.  Than I explained to her how she would stay in good shape.  She liked the idea of the hot 20 year old man to be her personal trainer.

Weight loss is a personal choice and should never be forced on someone.  Beauty is really inside someone.

[GregfromGa]

and hopefully that will never happen. We've been together almost 7 years. I would probably look South before ever considering the FSU again. I got extremely lucky with finding my sudba. She can be as crazy as a sprayed roach at times but she is what she is. She is a great mother,great wife,  isnt afraid of work,funny and still outlooks every girl in the room in my opinion.  A guy I graduated with recently got engaged to a girl from Colombia. There are a ton of good looking girls from that area and I would presume that most are Catholic and  they would probably be with you throughout the long haul if their mama raised them right. I dont know. Tough call.

[Gator]

But people need to have a positive attitude and want to be in good shape.  Weight loss is very mental and stress can cause weight gain.  The main thing is understand what makes you gain weight and what makes you lose.  Than be strict and do not do the things that make you gain weight.

Kievstar, good and reasonable answer.  You initially came across as dictatorial and now you seem like a mentor and coach, the role for a husband.

Some of this is genetic and not determined by the mind.  For example,  my ex-fiancee was somewhat lazy, yet many years ago when she had her first baby, she told me that she was a news item on Moscow-TV for returning to modeling in three weeks!!!  That, I believe, was due mostly to biological factors beyond her control plus her naturally svelte body. 

Some women try, yet are not able to return to their former shape.  It does not matter if you love them truly. 

She liked the idea of the hot 20 year old man to be her personal trainer.

My wife prefers an energetic, muscular Latin man. 

[kievstar]

Gator, my writing style is very different than who I am in person.  Several RWD members I have met in person said this as well.  I am more of a face to face person. 
I have had numerous bosses tell me my writing style is a little direct.

I also change my view a lot.  I learn a lot on this board and adjust my thoughts. 

I once lost more than 55 pounds in less than 30 days.  Did not eat one ounce of sugar for 12 days.  South beach works for me.  Biking, stair climber, and skiing aerobic type machines makes me gain weight in my abs even if several hours a day.  Running on a tread mill makes me lose weight in my abs.  Whisky makes me lose weight but beer does opposite. 

Reason I was heavy as I had a competition with my ex brother-in-law who could get to 300 pounds the fastest.  We were both around 210-220 pounds at the time. Both of us over 6 foot 3.  He won but I got to 285 pounds.  I was around 185 pounds after 3.5 months on south beach.  100 pound weight loss.  But 70 pounds of it was easy weight loss as it was rapid weight gain. 

[Simoni]

I once lost more than 55 pounds in less than 30 days.  Did not eat one ounce of sugar for 12 days.  South beach works for me. 

Body for Life works best for me.  I dropped 40 pounds and added much muscle before I started dating FSU girls. 

Now that I have found one and "fattened" up, I have started Body for Life again.  So far have dropped 10 pounds...

[Maxx2]

The safe women from Latin America are only found high up in the Peruvian Andeas mountains hearding llamas so I have been told.

[Diplomacy]

I think those are Alpacas Sir!

[Faux Pas]

  I once lost more than 55 pounds in less than 30 days.  Did not eat one ounce of sugar for 12 days.  South beach works for me.  Biking, stair climber, and skiing aerobic type machines makes me gain weight in my abs even if several hours a day.  Running on a tread mill makes me lose weight in my abs.  Whisky makes me lose weight but beer does opposite. 

Reason I was heavy as I had a competition with my ex brother-in-law who could get to 300 pounds the fastest.  We were both around 210-220 pounds at the time. Both of us over 6 foot 3.  He won but I got to 285 pounds.  I was around 185 pounds after 3.5 months on south beach.  100 pound weight loss.  But 70 pounds of it was easy weight loss as it was rapid weight gain. 

Kiev,

This really isn't a healthy way to lose weight. I understand it works for you and may not be as unhealthy as carrying around an extra 100 pounds but rapid gain and loss is stressful on the heart. How old are you if that isn't too personal? I ask because I too could put it on or take it off almost at will with no diet, just a change of eating habit. When I hit 45 that all seemed to change.

[Makkin]

  I swim five days a week and usually cover a half mile per day. Funny thing is I've gained weight in muscle mass and now weigh in at over 200.

Makkin

[Diplomacy]

Kiev:

Why in the world would you to try to do that?  You had a bet on who could weigh 300 lbs? 

[Ade]

Kiev:

Why in the world would you to try to do that?  You had a bet on who could weigh 300 lbs? 

Dude, this is the guy that claims to fire every single university graduate that he has a chance too. Maybe he burns books in his spare time too. 

Faux is right, losing and gaining large amounts of weight in extremely short periods or time is very unhealthy, doing it for a bet is just plain dumb. 

[turniptruck]

I think those are Alpacas Sir!

Alpacas make very bad dates.  I'm just saying is all.

[kievstar]

I used to play football at 270 pounds plus.   I never said this was healthy.  Never said it was smart.    

When I carry a lot of muscle and inshape I am around 245 pounds with 6% body fat but I do not like that look and prefer to be slender now.  I have a wing span of a guy who is 7 foot 2 and weight gain is very easy.  I have long arms and long legs so more places to put it. 

SJ, for work I am currently hired to cut cost and improve quality.  That is what I do.  So when I show up at a company it is not to make friends.  I have a lot of work in Europe right now.  I fire ivy league grads so get your facts straight.  Why pay people $200,000 plus when their trained to talk and not do.  I would rather hire a hard working kid from a small poor town who will do a lot more.