Author Topic: Dream-Marriage Warnings. Scam in Nikolaev (Read 19650 times)

Billgreen54 · « **on:** January 16, 2009, 03:20:21 AM »

Everyone knows about the scamming that goes on at web sites. The belief is that there might have been a situation when a girl did something wrong. Maybe it was the shopping spree when they met or the fancy dinners. But there is the other way that all agencies and web sites deny.

Agencies and web sites claim they validate and verify ladies and this somehow makes a man think that this girl is honest. Web sites like Hot Russian Brides, Russian Love Match, Dream-Marriage and Anastasia claim they are honest and they should be trusted. Russian Love Match claims you can actually see the girls online so you know who you are talking to. They even offer a video presentation for your enjoyment. Dream's video presentation is a bargain at only $20 USD.

What these web sites forget to tell you is that they also make huge amounts of money scamming. Over the past years I have received many letters telling me about how web sites use, use and re-use photos and profiles. Of coarse, we all know about it, but until it happens to you, it's often considered just a rumor and can't be proven.

I now have proof because it has happened to us. Larisa and I first met on the Internet just over two years ago. For the last 14 months, we have been side by side just about everyday.

When I came to Nikolaev 14 months ago, Larisa had her profile removed from the agencies profiles. Although they did tell her that she should just leave it for a while to make sure we were both serious and had a future. After Larisa insisted they removed her profile about 13 months ago.

Three nights ago while Larisa and I were surfing the web, we went to Dream Marriage to see if there was anyone we knew. Both Larisa and I have never used Dream Marriage. We were both shocked when we saw Larisa's photo and profile. We couldn't believe our eyes that her profile had somehow ended up on any web site. Larisa started to cry, she didn't know how this could happen. That night she contacted the agency where she used to go. The agency manager told her that her profile would be removed in a few days. The agency manager said that Dream Marriage was probably doing some maintenance on her profile and that's why it was there.

Of coarse, we didn't believe her. There were two problems with this reason. In Larisa's profile it says her occupation is cosmetics distributor. Larisa didn't start selling Mary Kay until the middle of last year, long after she left the agency. The other major change was the age of men she was searching for. It had been increased from 50 to 63. Other parts of the profile had been re-written. Obviously, someone at the agency in Nikolaev had updated her profile and posted it at Dream-Marriage to scam innocent victims.

I asked a few friends if they used Dream Marriage and if they had ever seen Larisa's profile there. Guess what, two friends told me that over the last three months they had been invited to chat with her many times. They didn't realize who it was.

My suggestion to anyone who has been scammed by Dream with Larisá's profile ask for an immediate refund. Larisa has never used Dream. Larisa doesn't go to agencies. Larisa is a victim of dishonesty and scamming by Dream-Marriage and the agency she used to find me. Her profile number at Dream is 6641 and her name is Larisa from Nikolaev.

There is something to learn by all of this. If you can't see a lady on the video, you have no idea who you are chatting with. On a daily average at Russian Love Match, no more than 20 percent of the girls are using a webcam. This is because most of the girls are not there. It's the agencies scamming by paying girls to chat with men who have no idea what is happening to them. Any man who is using these web sites is throwing away his money.

Feel free to send me a PM if you have some thoughts to share.

Shadow · « **Reply #1 on:** January 16, 2009, 04:27:16 AM »

Sorry to hear about this. If you check here, you will see that there have been warnings before about this kind of scams by agencies.
Should they not remove the profile, I would suggest you to contact the internet provider with a complaint and request to take the site offline.

kievstar · « **Reply #2 on:** January 16, 2009, 05:02:58 AM »

That is why you fly over and why waste time meeting someone by letter, telephone, video first.

GoodOlBoy · « **Reply #3 on:** January 16, 2009, 09:03:11 AM »

Quote from: Billgreen54 on January 16, 2009, 03:20:21 AM

Three nights ago while Larisa and I were surfing the web, we went to Dream Marriage to see if there was anyone we knew. Both Larisa and I have never used Dream Marriage. We were both shocked when we saw Larisa's photo and profile. We couldn't believe our eyes that her profile had somehow ended up on any web site. Larisa started to cry, she didn't know how this could happen.

Sorry Billgreen about your troubles. My wife went through the same thing here 2 years after our marriage. Her profile showed up everywhere. She just changed her MAIL.RU account. When the men had no way to contact her, her profile's were eventually dropped by the different agencies.

This is a little

Doll and your drive-by sidekick Silverbullet.... If you are out there, where is your "righteous indignation" about this situation?

One of your fellow FSU ladies is having her reputation tarnished and the relationship with her man disrupted by "photo stealing".

I expect you and your RW mob to take action immediately and launch your "campaign of terror" against these dating sites. :evil:

GOB

Daveman · « **Reply #4 on:** January 16, 2009, 09:14:48 AM »

hi Billgreen54,
You are listed as a commercial member and I'd like to understand your commercial interest (no offense) so I can weigh that against the slant of your post.

Many commercial members here who are valid contributors with good advice. I just like to know what if any conflicts could possibly be in the situation while reading.

Thanks for the input.
Dave

Krimlover · « **Reply #5 on:** January 24, 2009, 11:36:06 AM »

I have solid prove now, that ANASTASIA INTERNATIONAL is sometimes using the following methode to make you waste your money on correspondence:
Someone in the agency is writing the letters and not the girl you are thinking to contact.
Case a) I met a girl through LOVEME.com and we became aquainted. It did not lead to love, but we are still communicating from time to time. I later found another profile of her on ANASTASIA-INTERNATIONAL. Just for fun, I wrote to her using my real profile. To my surprise I got a kind of standardized letter via ANASTASIA, apparently from my friend. However, when I asked her about it, she knew nothing about a letter from me !!! So who (your guess) wrote that reply?
Case b) Again I met a girl via LOVEME.com. She was only interested in presents and dragged me into a perfume shop within hours after our first date. I insulted her in front of all the shoppers in that mall and created a big scene for her. Of course that was the end of our "relationship". Guess, who contacted me via ANASTASIA only a few monthes later: Of course that very girl, who apparently was very interested to contact me after having read my profile in ANASTASIA. So who (your guess) wrote that letter?

My experince after having wasted more than 800 USD in letter forwarding by ANASTASIA: Girls seem to be all existing persons, but only very few of them have serious intentions. Furthermore ANASTASIA is trying to drum up trade by preparing faked communication.

Anyone, who has gone through similar experience with ANASTASIA?

Goodman · « **Reply #6 on:** March 09, 2009, 09:19:58 PM »

Yes I agree Dream Marrage is a total con
1. You can get a serious answer to the question you ask.
2. When try to cancel your membership the fails with an error how conenant for them.
3. When try to contact them it said the I have an invaided email address and this not true.
because I get the mail telling about new ladies and I if do not read or delete my emails on the
site for a while then I get emails too. I would remend that you do not touch this site with barge poll
It is a same the we can hire the A TEAM to put thease people out of action for good.

Leems · « **Reply #7 on:** January 10, 2010, 02:25:40 PM »

This is another you need to watch out for she registered on dream marrages 240453 and Anastasia 1140854

Chicagoguy · « **Reply #8 on:** March 14, 2010, 01:58:04 PM »

Wow These girls on SteveCubby's site sure look like my idea of the girl next door. I am sure they are very domestic.

Jack · « **Reply #9 on:** March 14, 2010, 02:37:50 PM »

Jumper · « **Reply #10 on:** March 25, 2010, 07:24:41 AM »

Jack, that's nothing compared to Dream

with the cities relativley small population ,
every young single woman in nikolaev must be a moldel and signed up with that agency
(or its affiliates)

The women in question Larisa? there are no 4 digit ID numbers on *Dream-Masrriage* that i am aware of.

This seems like one shady agency casting shadows on another shady agency .. lol
Just how big are the shade trees in nikolaev?

nitrous · « **Reply #11 on:** May 01, 2010, 11:13:00 PM »

billygreen reveal your commercial interests. I want to know what they are.
I have seen this larrisa stuff before, its old news... many years ago.
AND I HAVE USED DREAM-MARRIAGE. I have flown to the Ukraine twice and met up with 6 girls from the site. ALL REAL WOMEN. Not all of them were sincere, but they were the real faces on their profiles. I would Used Dream-marriage again and i still use it. I did have an interpreter/agency say to me that nikolaev agencies had a repuation for scamming. I have met Ukraine women from kharkov, nikopol odessa and nikolaev. aLl of them matched their profiles. and yes some of them i didnt see on live cam but met them in real life and they matched thier profiles. I wise man would rather see a girl live on video cam before spending too much time and money on them.

Billgreen54 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 26, 2010, 12:10:45 PM »

Interesting. You guys are saying that there are no four number profiles at Dream Marriage. When Larisa's profile was being used to scam by an agency in Nikolaev, the following profile was the one posted that we complained about. It was removed just days after we complained after we were able to proove that several members at Dream were scammed by someone posing as Larisa.

I think the real question is, WHO DO YOU WORK FOR?

http://Single Russian Girl Larisa 6641Larisa, ID: 6641 Chat with Larisa now! Email Larisa Send Larisa a Gift Meet Larisa Add Larisa to FavoritesView Larisa View Larisa's Introductory Video View LarisaAge: 36City: NikolaevCountry: UkraineBirth Date: August 11, 1972Zodiac: LeoHeight: 5' 3'' (160 cm)Weight: 137 lbs (62 kg)Eyes: greyHair: blackOccupation: Cosmetics distributorEducation: collegeReligion: ChristianityMarital Status: divorcedKids: 1Lanuages Spoken: RussianEnglish Proficiency: basicSmoking: no Beautiful Russian Woman Larisa from Nikolaev<<>> * Larisa - photo 1 * Larisa - photo 2 * Larisa - photo 3 * Larisa - photo 4 * Larisa - photo 5HobbiesI like to create comfortable hearth, I can sew and knit. I have a great desire to improve my skills. I enjoyed drawing in my youth. I like to listen to the pop music, to travel. More About MeI can say that I'm kind, gentle, modesty, romantic, decent girl. I'm steady, and good housewife, have a sense of humor, self –depended. I appreciate attention and care, but I hate liars. I dislike irresponsibility and faithlessness. I know that everything can be good; you just have to believe in it. Ideal RelationshipI want him to be clever, kind, noble, decent, generous and sensitive, with a good sense of humor. Looking For An Age Group37 - 63View Larisa View Larisa's Introductory Video View LarisaChat with Larisa now! Email Larisa Send Larisa a Gift Meet Larisa Add Larisa to Favorites Please read our Frequently Asked Questions before sending your question or inquiry * How does the membership work and what are the costs? * How do credits work? * How does Live Chat work and what are the costs? * How can I pay? * Are women on this site real? Are they models? They look too beautiful. * How do I place my profile on this site? * Can I include my personal contact information in my email, photos or chat messages? * Why can't I read incoming messages from the ladies?

Billgreen54 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 26, 2010, 12:12:35 PM »

Single Russian Girl Larisa 6641
Larisa, ID: 6641
Chat with Larisa now!    Email Larisa    Send Larisa a Gift    Meet Larisa    Add Larisa to Favorites
View Larisa View Larisa's Introductory Video View Larisa
Age:   36
City:   Nikolaev
Country:   Ukraine
Birth Date:   August 11, 1972
Zodiac:   Leo
Height:   5' 3'' (160 cm)
Weight:   137 lbs (62 kg)
Eyes:   grey
Hair:   black
Occupation:   Cosmetics distributor
Education:   college
Religion:   Christianity
Marital Status:   divorced
Kids:   1
Lanuages Spoken:   Russian
English Proficiency:   basic
Smoking:   no
   Beautiful Russian Woman Larisa from Nikolaev
<<>>

* Larisa - photo 1
* Larisa - photo 2
* Larisa - photo 3
* Larisa - photo 4
* Larisa - photo 5

HobbiesI like to create comfortable hearth, I can sew and knit. I have a great desire to improve my skills. I enjoyed drawing in my youth. I like to listen to the pop music, to travel. More About MeI can say that I'm kind, gentle, modesty, romantic, decent girl. I'm steady, and good housewife, have a sense of humor, self –depended. I appreciate attention and care, but I hate liars. I dislike irresponsibility and faithlessness. I know that everything can be good; you just have to believe in it. Ideal RelationshipI want him to be clever, kind, noble, decent, generous and sensitive, with a good sense of humor. Looking For An Age Group37 - 63
View Larisa View Larisa's Introductory Video View Larisa
Chat with Larisa now!    Email Larisa    Send Larisa a Gift    Meet Larisa    Add Larisa to Favorites
   Please read our Frequently Asked Questions before sending your question or inquiry

* How does the membership work and what are the costs?
* How do credits work?
* How does Live Chat work and what are the costs?
* How can I pay?
* Are women on this site real? Are they models? They look too beautiful.
* How do I place my profile on this site?
* Can I include my personal contact information in my email, photos or chat messages?
* Why can't I read incoming messages from the ladies?

Jumper · « **Reply #14 on:** September 26, 2010, 05:03:52 PM »

Quote from: Billgreen54 on September 26, 2010, 12:10:45 PM

Interesting. You guys are saying that there are no four number profiles at Dream Marriage. When Larisa's profile was being used to scam by an agency in Nikolaev, the following profile was the one posted that we complained about. It was removed just days after we complained after we were able to proove that several members at Dream were scammed by someone posing as Larisa.

I think the real question is, WHO DO YOU WORK FOR?

http://Single Russian Girl Larisa 6641Larisa, ID: 6641 Chat with Larisa now! Email Larisa Send Larisa a Gift Meet Larisa Add Larisa to FavoritesView Larisa View Larisa's Introductory Video View LarisaAge: 36City: NikolaevCountry: UkraineBirth Date: August 11, 1972Zodiac: LeoHeight: 5' 3'' (160 cm)Weight: 137 lbs (62 kg)Eyes: greyHair: blackOccupation: Cosmetics distributorEducation: collegeReligion: ChristianityMarital Status: divorcedKids: 1Lanuages Spoken: RussianEnglish Proficiency: basicSmoking: no Beautiful Russian Woman Larisa from Nikolaev<<>> * Larisa - photo 1 * Larisa - photo 2 * Larisa - photo 3 * Larisa - photo 4 * Larisa - photo 5Hobbies I like to create comfortable hearth, I can sew and knit. I have a great desire to improve my skills. I enjoyed drawing in my youth. I like to listen to the pop music, to travel. More About MeI can say that I'm kind, gentle, modesty, romantic, decent girl. I'm steady, and good housewife, have a sense of humor, self –depended. I appreciate attention and care, but I hate liars. I dislike irresponsibility and faithlessness. I know that everything can be good; you just have to believe in it. Ideal RelationshipI want him to be clever, kind, noble, decent, generous and sensitive, with a good sense of humor. Looking For An Age Group37 - 63View Larisa View Larisa's Introductory Video View LarisaChat with Larisa now! Email Larisa Send Larisa a Gift Meet Larisa Add Larisa to Favorites Please read our Frequently Asked Questions before sending your question or inquiry * How does the membership work and what are the costs? * How do credits work? * How does Live Chat work and what are the costs? * How can I pay? * Are women on this site real? Are they models? They look too beautiful. * How do I place my profile on this site? * Can I include my personal contact information in my email, photos or chat messages? * Why can't I read incoming messages from the ladies?

Steve,
I think my words were clear and easy to understand..

Quote

there are no 4 digit ID numbers on *Dream-Marriage* that i am aware of.

none i was aware of,
in review of the site now, still unaware of.. !

this doesn't mean your larisa's profile (or photos) weren't stolen /used and given a 4 digit number by DM.
and deleted.

I also said:

Quote

This seems like one shady agency casting shadows on another shady agency .. lol
Just how big are the shade trees in nikolaev?

Nothing has changed my opinion....

My opinion is that most big agencies are shady,
men's choices are simply from light grey to dark grey..

yet i have met sincere women through them.

as far as who i work for..
A motorcycle manufacturer, so it's hardly relevant to marriage agencies?
and its my real name as a *nick*

Now ,your turn..
who do you work for?

nitrous · « **Reply #15 on:** February 06, 2011, 07:32:50 AM »

after several meeting of dream-marriage.com girls they are fake scaming like coukas who only want mmoney and gifts, they someitmes get a % cut from interpreters and taxi drivers from whom they know. Id like to put an end to dream-marraige and Anasatsia .com. many dumb ass guys are going to waste time and money on this fraud.

tim 360 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 06, 2011, 09:46:37 AM »

Quote from: Chicagoguy on March 14, 2010, 01:58:04 PM

Wow These girls on SteveCubby's site sure look like my idea of the girl next door. I am sure they are very domestic.

"Girl next door?"

Chicagoguy · « **Reply #17 on:** February 06, 2011, 02:00:44 PM »

I am being facetious.

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