TV show about RW scammers:

[Photo Guy]

I recently received this email from Elena Petrova:

Hello Doug,

We urgently need your help!

I have been contacted by a producer from a popular Russian TV channel NTV
(Evgeni Balamutenko, from "Profession - Reporter").

They want to make a program about Internet dating scammers.

NTV is a very popular Russian TV channel for intelligent and smart
people that provides well-researched and throught-provoking programs.

They can attract support from local law enforcement agencies, private detectives and media.

If you are in contact with a scammer NOW, or have been taken
for a ride, please contact NTV producer Evgeni Balamutenko at: NTV_vs_scam@mail.ru

PLEASE NOTE: This special email address will only work for
a week or so - so please don't delay.

They can follow up and find your scammer, provided you supplied them with
all the relevant information.

I am sure they are going to be overwhelmed with requests, so do not delay.

Send your short story with your complete name, address (including country),
phone number and email address. Please refrain from sending photos and
emails of the scammers
because this can quickly overload the email account.

!!! Please remember: this is about RUSSIAN scammers only.

If you were taken by a scammer from a different country, save it for later or
send your comment through:

http://www.womenrussia.com/blacklist.htm#scammed

Thank you for your input.

Regards,
Elena Petrova
http://www.womenrussia.com

P.S. If you know someone who has been scammed, please forward them this email.


Elena's Models
Suit 407/51
Robina
 4230
Australia

[Rvrwind]

Oh, No!!!!

Doug as much as I would love nothing better than to see a program about scammers & scam agencies aired on television I feel I must caution you to beware. Not that airing it in Russia will accomplish anything other than the men looking like suckers anyway. Airing it in the west would be much more benificial & maybe teach a few guys about how they get ripped off & they might even learn something. But my feeling about airing it in Russia, is its a waste of time, other than to teach new scammers new tricks.

I have dealt with NTV in the past & found they like to twist things to the way they want it to be, not the reality. As in all things here in Russia if it doesn't conform to there concept of how things are, they will take broad licence & change it to the way they feel it should be. Be very wary if they ask you for an interview or to film you, they are very adept at making it look like you are the bad guy instead of those they say they are trying to expose.

I speak from personal experience in my dealings with this particular channel.

RVR-Canadian Cowboy/Agency Owner

[acrzybear]

HHHmmmmm, the Russian version of Jerry Springer?

[catzenmouse]

Sergei Springer? Kinda has a nice ring to it...

Elena recently watched a program on the internet Russian channel about Russian women being abused, mistreated, etc. (one was killed) and said that her family also watched the show. Next time they talked they told her to get her butt home right now!

Ken

[Rvrwind]

Elena recently watched a program on the internet Russian channel about Russian women being abused, mistreated, etc. (one was killed)

My wife & I watched the same show on television, it was pretty sad actually. Out of the 6 couples shown only one I would say was what I would consider a average normal couple.

The first guy got scammed by a woman using Valerias picture(in case you are unfamiliar with that name, she is a famous & well known Russian singer)is secound time out he met with a woman much to classy & out of his league in my opinion. Even listening to him talk I could tell right of he was a loser.

The secound guy was 300 plus pounds with tatoos everywhere skin was showin' & uglier than 50 mile of bad road. Chances of him gettin' laid by the cutie he was chasin' were about a billion to one.

The third guy brought his RW to the US 7 introduced her to his trailer & 30 freakin' dogs & then couldn't figure out why she wasn't happy.

The fourth guy didn't like the fact that his puppy developed a brain & decided to speak for herself so he killed her. Fat old fart didn't deserve her in the first place.

I could go on add nauseum but I'm sure you get the drift. They didn't pick the sharpest tools in the box to interview & certainly not ones that would suggest anything to RW other than Westeners are losers. Not the most highly representative bunch to emulate.

There are really some major losers out there in this process & it just irks me sometimes that they are too f@#king stupid to get a clue. Theres a 70+ year old guy in Tver right now with another agency & he's dating late twenties to mid 30's. The guy is a nice guy, I grant you that but he looks his age. He's fishing in the wrong pond but even my blatant hints don't seem to phase him at all. When will they learn?

RVR-Canadian Cowboy/Agency Owner

[catzenmouse]

There are really some major losers out there in this process & it just irks me sometimes that they are too f@#king stupid to get a clue. Theres a 70+ year old guy in Tver right now with another agency & he's dating late twenties to mid 30's. The guy is a nice guy, I grant you that but he looks his age. He's fishing in the wrong pond but even my blatant hints don't seem to phase him at all. When will they learn?

RVR-Canadian Cowboy/Agency Owner

RVR,

 From what I've seen and heard about 80%+ of them will never learn. They will continue to prove to the world that WM are idiots.

Ken

[ConnerVT]

When will they learn?

Usually never.  Remember: Never try to teach a pig to sing.  It wastes your time, and it annoys the pig.

[Leslie]

Natasha and I have watched a couple of russian TV programs on MOB.  I would stongly caution anyone from taking part.  You will not be allowed to put your viewpoint.  By the time they have "sound  bited" what you said you won't even recognize it

The "viewpoint" will be set by the shows producers.  NTV is a commercial TV station. The slant will reflect popular opinion on MOB in Russia.  Reckon it will be worse than anything you could read on Antidate ! 

Problem is that MOB deserves this image.  The scene is populated by inadequete gomers and desperate women.  Happily ever after stories don't fire the ratings.  Examples of bizarre sexual slavery and murder do....

There is a saying that there is no such thing as bad publicity.  Elena Petrova is probably counting on this.



 

[anono]

There is a saying that there is no such thing as bad publicity. 

anytime anyone would bounce at a dropzone somwhere, we always had a spike in first jump students

 

[jb]

Too say nothing about the jaundiced looks my wife gets everytime some of that garbage gets aired in this country.

I'd say give it a miss.

[Kvinna]

 I would stongly caution anyone from taking part.  You will not be allowed to put your viewpoint.  By the time they have "sound  bited" what you said you won't even recognize it

 

 

Well well well I didn't want to be member on this board after this guy called Dan banned me... but in this case I want to say. well you can refuse to take part as those people prays you, but then don't be indignant if you should listen only to our point of view. I strongly believe, now is the time to begin some dialogue between Antidate and RWG/RWD. If you don't want is your business/ We will take part in this film

[Rvrwind]

We will take part in this film

[/size]Of course you will, was there ever any doubt?:huh:

RVR-Canadian Cowboy/Agency Owner

[Kvinna]

We will take part in this film

[/size]Of course you will, was there ever any doubt?:huh:

RVR-Canadian Cowboy/Agency Owner

[/quote]
 

by the way I hear you are also going to take part on this film, despite on your strong warning others... do you want to promote your MOB business without your competitors?

[Rvrwind]

by the way I hear you are also going to take part on this film, despite on your strong warning others

If this is an advance on the lies you will be spouting to the TV Channel I have no doubt I can portray the exact outcome/slant of the entire program.

If I am on it, it will not be voluntarily & they will only be able to use cuts from the previous interview that they had with my wife & I which I was not impressed with the outcome & how they twisted everything to suit their agenda which is exactly why they will never get either of us to do it ever again.

If they have any new material they got it on the sly without my permission & I will sue their asses off if they do that, that you can count on. They pissed me off once, they don't want to do it twice!!!

do you want to promote your MOB business without your competitors?

I don't have any competitors. When your the best, competition is not something you loose sleep over.

RVR-Canadian Cowboy/Agency Owner

[Admin]

I strongly believe, now is the time to begin some dialogue between Antidate and RWG/RWD.

So what, exactly, do you have in mind as for a "dialogue"? Another way to ask is: What do you have to offer RWD that would encourage us to WANT to dialogue with you and A/D??

- Dan

[Bruno]

For information, i have make these post on both forum... some don't like cross posting but it is needed...

First, before judge a program TV, wait the final version... it is not always the same journalist who make the reportage...

For one time that a program allow to speak over the scammer and can reach a big audience, the reflex from several is to fight... for one time that agency and forum can say something in the hope to stop or slow down it, use your energy for work together and not fight between us...

RW don't like the arrogant RWD, WM don't like the vindicative Antidate... but scammer exist on both side... of course, i use the word "scammer" in a large signification : keyboard romeo, sex tourist, looser, wisa whore, gold finder, trade up, ...

All the "scammer" certainly laugh when they see forum fight each other, when they see agency fight each other... if we wish really clean these business, it is only possible when all together we work on it...

Really, it is like two child who fight for a candy... and during these time, the bad guys steal the bike of both of them... please, be adult and both, don't forget the main function of forum : protect and inform the visitor over the risk... and this on the both side...

The real question is not "what do you offert"... but "what can we make together"... the problem of scammer cannot be fight from only one side... both side, men and women need to be informed, both side need to clean his own dirty...

Why do you think that the bad guys and girls win always... because the good one fight each other in place to work together...

This is only my meaning, i know that several will not agree with it... some cannot forgive and forget some evements of the past... but act like this help only the scammer.