Statistical abberation

[Admin]

Actually Ken I was wearing the kid gloves with my comments. I should be very happy closing the door on these last ten years. I hope next time you make a better choice. 

>>Actually Ken I was wearing the kid gloves with my comments.<<

Maybe YOU think so, but what I read in your post was speculation and supposition under the guise of posing rhetorical and insincere questions.

>>I should be very happy closing the door on these last ten years.<<

I don't buy that. If you were sincere with this comment, you would have accomplished it already - long ago - but you haven't.

>>I hope next time you make a better choice.<<

"Better" ?!? In what respect? KenC has already provided his perspective and experience. Who are YOU to stand in judgment and suggest he should make a "better choice"?

- Dan

[ScottinCrimea]

Actually Ken I was wearing the kid gloves with my comments. I should be very happy closing the door on these last ten years. I hope next time you make a better choice. 

However you feel it was worded, this post showed a lack of understanding and class.  I hadn't pictured you that way.

[Maxx2]

Ken's sugar coating it big time. No wonder he is so grouchy. No matter how awful a life is with a Russian woman is still hurts when they go. 

[Maxx2]

However you feel it was worded, this post showed a lack of understanding and class.  I hadn't pictured you that way.

At last you respond to one of my posts!

When I was going through the worst of it the few months after my divorce Ken was not so kindly with me. I would post on another now defunct board giving my advises of finding a good RW. Suddenly Ken would roar up and tell me "who are you to give such advice?". Ken would remind me that he was "going off to Palms springs for a romantic holiday" with his lovely wife, "Paca!" and I was alone loser. This happened over and over again until the point Jaypatches a moderator told him to stop harrassing me, "He has the right to post".

[Admin]

Ken's sugar coating it big time. No wonder he is so grouchy. No matter how awful a life is with a Russian woman is still hurts when they go. 

>>Ken's sugar coating it big time.<<

How do you KNOW?!? More speculation?

>>No wonder he is so grouchy.<<

Actually, I have noticed the same thing many others have - and that is that Ken has been remarkably composed and forthcoming with his story. A story he was under no obligation to share with you or RWD or anyone - but he has.

>>No matter how awful a life is with a Russian woman is still hurts when they go.<<

Dave, you see things (like we all do) through the lens of your own experience. In your case, it colors your perspectives, and when you make assumptions about others (as you are doing here), you are prone to introducing "facts not in evidence."

How about doing just as Ken suggested upthread and if you have a question - ask it. If you ask and get an answer, take it on face value as truth. Anything else is utter speculation - as you are doing now.

- Dan

[Admin]

At last you respond to one of my posts!

When I was going through the worst of it the few months after my divorce Ken was not so kindly with me. I would post on another now defunct board giving my advises of finding a good RW. Suddenly Ken would roar up and tell me "who are you to give such advice?". Ken would remind me that he was "going off to Palms springs for a romantic holiday" with his lovely wife, "Paca!" and I was alone loser. This happened over and over again until the point Jaypatches a moderator told him to stop harrassing me, "He has the right to post".

So is THAT what this is all about Dave - payback for perceived slights of the past?

How BIG of you.

- Dan

[Maxx2]

How about doing just as Ken suggested upthread and if you have a question - ask it. If you ask and get an answer, take it on face value as truth. Anything else is utter speculation - as you are doing now.

- Dan

Over the years I hear first hand accounts. Not speculation. I can understand a person not wanting to be conmpletely open on a public message board while a divorce is pending. I just hope that after thats past that we hear some reality and facts.

[Admin]

Over the years I hear first hand accounts. Not speculation. I can understand a person not wanting to be conmpletely open on a public message board while a divorce is pending. I just hope that after thats past that we hear some reality and facts.

>>Over the years I hear first hand accounts.<<

Sheez Dave - of course this is speculation or at best, it is hearsay. Either way, it is irrelevant.

>>I just hope that after thats past that we hear some reality and facts.<<

Who's to say you are NOT hearing (reading, actually) that now?!? Do you possess some special insight (ESP or something) to allow you to see/know things are different than what Ken has written? Are voices in your head telling you the "reality and facts" that are disparate from Ken's account?

Do you REALLY not recognize how judgmental and arrogant (and boorish) you seem - or do you just not care?

- Dan

[Maxx2]

So is THAT what this is all about Dave - payback for perceived slights of the past?

How BIG of you.

- Dan

Dan, not payback at all. Just showing that Ken did to me (far more actually) what I am accused of doing to him. He needs to humble himself like you need to do also.

[Admin]

Dan, not payback at all. Just showing that Ken did to me (far more actually) what I am accused of doing to him. He needs to humble himself like you need to do also.

Ahhh - I see.

Others need to be more "humble" - eh Dave?

And YOU?!?

- Dan

[Maxx2]

>>Over the years I hear first hand accounts.<<

Sheez Dave - of course this is speculation or at best, it is hearsay. Either way, it is irrelevant.

>>I just hope that after thats past that we hear some reality and facts.<<

Who's to say you are NOT hearing (reading, actually) that now?!? Do you possess some special insight (ESP or something) to allow you to see/know things are different than what Ken has written? Are voices in your head telling you the "reality and facts" that are disparate from Ken's account?

Do you REALLY not recognize how judgmental and arrogant (and boorish) you seem - or do you just not care?

- Dan

"First hand" is not hearsay or speculation. Red Herring

The rest of what you say is argument and debate tactics (Ad Hominen) that all but little children can see through.

[Maxx2]

Ahhh - I see.

Others need to be more "humble" - eh Dave?

And YOU?!?

- Dan

Only Moses is more humble than me. The Bible says in Exodus "Moses was the humblest of all men"

[Admin]

"First hand" is not hearsay or speculation. Red Herring

The rest of what you say is argument and debate tactics (Ad Hominen) that all but little children can see through.

True - "first hand" would not be speculation or hearsay - but YOUR recounting of those experiences you "heard" most certainly IS hearsay. Moreover, your feeble attempt to apply whatever it is you "heard" to an entirely separate matter is speculation pure and simple.

"debate tactics"?!? Nope. Merely pointing out your logical fallacies.

Only Moses is more humble than me. The Bible says in Exodus "Moses was the humblest of all men"

How about we let the readers draw their own conclusion on that score Dave.

- Dan

[GoodOlBoy]

Once you go Russian, you can never go back.  
KenC

I couldn't agree with you more KenC !!   


GOB

[Maxx2]

How about we let the readers draw their own conclusion on that score Dave.

- Dan

Why do you insist on calling me by my Christian name? 

[Admin]

Why do you insist on calling me by my Christian name? 

It is easier to pronounce than the numeric at the end of the Maxx.

You can write my Christian given name as well, if it makes you feel better.

- Dan

[KenC]

Maxx,
How someone could take such great pride in being the guru of doom and gloom has always been a mystery to me.  Take your crap on outta here.  I remember the posts I made that you refer to.  You started a whinny thread about how terrible RW and marriage was to them with all the negativity in the world.  I started another thread with how good things can be to counteract your misinformation.  I say "misinformation" because there was another , much more positive side to be told.  You have immersed yourself with the "dark side" of this process and it has tainted you to only look at and expect the worst.  As I told you for years and years, you only make yourself more miserable and negative.  You have allowed your poor decisions to ruin the rest of your life.  Sorry, but that aint me and I certainly will not apologize for being optimistic or having the ability to move on and have a good life in the future.

I do take exception to some of your BS statements here.

I hope next time you make a better choice.

A better choice?  WTF you talking about?  You should hope to find what we had for TEN YEARS!  You married a psycho beetch from hell and you think you are in a position to give ME advice?  Go share your wisdom with your following of losers dude.  Not me.

I should be very happy closing the door on these last ten years

Why Maxx?  Was my happiness uncomfortable for you?  Why is your state of emotions even relevant here?

Ken's sugar coating it big time.

You are so used to wallowing in the underbelly of this process that you cannot understand that some of us can handle adversity with class and dignity.  That there are good RW that aren't looking to phuck over their man, even if the marriage is ending.  I know who Lena is and was when we married.  I am not surprised by her dignity and class as our marriage now ends.  Talking about better choices, maybe it is you that made the bad choice not me.

I just hope that after thats past that we hear some reality and facts

First of all, you will only hear what I choose to share here.  Secondly, everything I wrote was factual and accurate.  I know that two people parting ways with dignity and class is a difficult concept for you to grasp, but try real hard with that sick and twisted brain of yours and maybe you'll get it.  Oh, and here is another tidbit of information I now choose to share here that I am sure you will insinuate I am lying about; after the divorce was filed, Lena ripped up the settlement agreement that would give her years of alimony because she knew my business was in the dumper.  You see Maxx, there are people (even RW) that have good character and high principals.  But you have never seen that side of life.

No wonder he is so grouchy

Grouchy?  Give me a break.  I wasn't grouchy until you began speaking out of the wrong orifice.
KenC

[Maxx2]

Ken, I hope your next Russian woman will be a kind, thoughtful sweet woman. Someone who is not argumentative and proud. Who will stay with you through thick and thin "In sickness and sorrow". Someone who will be faithful to you. And someone who will not spend you into the ground but rather be conservative with your money.     

Maxx

[KenC]

Ken, I hope your next Russian woman will be a kind, thoughtful sweet woman. Someone who is not argumentative and proud. Who will stay with you through thick and thin "In sickness and sorrow". Someone who will be faithful to you. And someone who will not spend you into the ground but rather be conservative with your money.     

Maxx

Again you make incorrect assertions that you have no clue about. Lena was always 100% faithful and I was the spender in the family not her.  Maxx just speak of what you know because you certainly have no clue about me or my relationship with Lena. No matter how hard you try, I will not allow you to taint my story with your doom and gloom BS. You've become a very sick puppy, Maxx.  I feel sorry for you.
KenC

[Daveman]

There's nothing quite as ugly as attempts to add insult to injury, or gloating in another's misfortune.  Maxx2, in other threads you seem to lend some sound advice, but here you're just coming across as a gloating prick.  But then again, that's the whole point. eh?

[Faux Pas]

There's nothing quite as ugly as attempts to add insult to injury, or gloating in another's misfortune.  Maxx2, in other threads you seem to lend some sound advice, but here you're just coming across as a gloating prick.  But then again, that's the whole point. eh?

I agree. Equates to a male version of a succubus except Maxx seems to be attempting to sapp off some of Ken's misery. I am disappointed in you Maxx. I considered your causes noble but displays such as this reveals a very shallow and bitter man.

[Makkin]

Maxx,

  If you had any credibility before you posted on Ken's situation then I'm sure you now have a lot less or none.


  Imagine a guy honest enough to explain his situation as Ken has and get a kick in the bag from you about how he should cry about things and come clean about details.

  Ken's a big boy and I've always respected that in him. We have seldom if ever commented on each others posts but I tend to agree with his mentality at about 95%. I suppose you just don't get it ....YET...

Makkin

[ScottinCrimea]

I'm starting to sense that Maxx feeds on misery.  Where there is none, he seeks to create some

[TwoBitBandit]

One of the problems I've seen with these boards is that the subject matter is intensely and inherently personal.  The process of looking for a wife, romancing women, flying all over, the ups and downs and failures of relationships, are, well, personal.

For these boards to have any meaning or use at all, some of the participants have to be willing to show their underbelly a little.  In admit what they did wrong and right, they help others that are on the same path.  And perhaps, they can be helped along their path by some constructive criticism from the community with an appropriate tone.  We can all learn from one another with an intellectually honest but tactful exchange of ideas and experiences.

But the problem is that there's always someone who wants to kick you in the nuts, just because they can.  It is unfortunate, because it can really ruin the sense of community.

[Kuna]

I too used to read Maxx's posts with moderate interest, but no ill will. 

Reading his posts here reveals a person who is bitter and very unhappy - and seemingly happier when immersed in misery.  It's not uncommon in some circles and I've seen it often in a former gf's gay friends... Unhappy people are so destructive to be around!

Ken,  your continued posting in this thread gives is all insights which haven't been available before.

Thanks, and congratulations.

Kuna