Statistical abberation

[Doll]

Do you like me also? 

I do in a way 

[Doll]

but I really don't think you have the grounds to comport yourself

Yes, he has! KenC went for a risky relationship, he knew he was risking, it didn't work for the rest of his life.Oh, well. Life is a stubborn animal.
Hey, my husband's ex cheated on him while being married, took his kids and...and it was not the end of the world. He started the whole thing all over. Things happen.
What doesn't kill us makes us stronger.
Right, Ken? 

[KenC]

Doll,
I agree.  I will always charish our memories of the last ten years as will Lena.  It wasn't forever, but it was good while it lasted.  Why Maxx cannot accept that and is trying to drag me into his hole of misery, is beyond me.  I am looking forward to a bright and fulfilling future.  Life moves on for everyone but Maxx.
KenC

[Doll]

I'll tell you what- it happens all the time! Like last weekend my son competed in a world BJJ championship and he wanted the first place badly! He was beaten in the first round and got somehow discouraged,"Mum, I am not sure what to do, I am at a loss"."Just suck it up, son, do it!" He put himself together and finally got two medals
(no first places though). He overcame his uncertainty. We were back home and started working much more at his skills.
 The boy is 15 years old , hr is learning to loose. To win is easy, to loose with honor is hard. Once you are capable to loose and remain on a track you will win.
Right, Ken?
 

[Maxx2]

It's OK Ken. No advice on women from me.   

My business advice to you is get yourself into things that are essential goods and services. The dollar is going to head down what with the trillions being pumped into the economy. There will be no need for frivolous things like landscape gardening.

I really do wish you well.


Maxx

[Doll]

 

[Doll]

No advice on women from me.   

Between us.... Maxx, it is hard to get any advice from a man who had 4 months of marriage and 5 years after that is still whining. 
10 years of a happy marriage vs 4 miserable months.

[KenC]

Just FYI, Maxx, I respect your business advice even less than your marital advice.  Yeah, my "frivolous" contracting business only grossed $2 million a year ago.  And my new marketing venture will do that on the first order. You see Maxx, a downturn in financial standing is relevant to where you begin the downturn.    the lower your starting point, the faster you hit rock bottom. Wanna tell us about it?

In business, like in life, you gotta know when to cut bait and move on to a better fishing hole.  Something you will never understand.
KenC

[Mishenka]

$2 million gross means nothing, like Galina says, it's only the net profit that matters. 

[facetrock]

2 million gross does mean something, especially in the landscaping business. It means you are doing a hell of a lot of work. But I would say in todays economy with house building at a virtual standstill it would be no where near that now. I got out of the concrete business a few years ago because I saw this coming. If I was still in it I would be lucky to get 2 months of work in a year. It is really that bad in some areas.

[Makkin]

  I don't think Ken needs your comfort and advices Maxxey. He's told you on several occasions that your input in not needed. Do you listen or do you just wish to argue and swim in your pain through Ken?
  In any case you have established yourself as one who cannot be trusted and of course your advice would need someone very desperate to qualify for your golden words.

Makkin

[KenC]

$2 million gross means nothing, like Galina says, it's only the net profit that matters. 

Ok "Mr Six Figures" 
When I need business advice from someone driving (living?) in a 1980's minivan, I'll give you a call.
KenC

[facetrock]

For the short time KenC was in the landscaping business, to go from nothing to 2 million gross, is impressive to me.

[Mishenka]

Ok "Mr Six Figures" 
When I need business advice from someone driving (living?) in a 1980's minivan, I'll give you a call.
KenC

Ken I don't offer advice, and I don't live in or drive an 80's minivan. 
What I drive makes no difference to what I earn, my 2009 toyota treats me well.I bought it when gas was 4.50 a gallon. Makes sense to me. Laugh all you want, Im doing great. I'm happy and still in love . 

Ken, Why not join us dancing with the Russian ladies at Dance Motion studios Tuesday or Thursday nights. getting out of the house will do you some good.  There are lots of beautiful women of all ages that need a dance partner.
Carmel Mtn Ranch/Camino del Norte, just a stones throw from you. Don't forget your dancing shoes!

Mishenka

[MarkLeftTX]

For me, the most astonishing thing here was watching KenC and Doll agreeing for the entire thread!

[Jumper]

 
  This thread is a perfect example of why i don't visit here often anymore.

 

[Vaughn]

Aw, c'mon, AJ, that's like sticking your head in the sand...

[Doll]

For me, the most astonishing thing here was watching KenC and Doll agreeing for the entire thread!

Because what is- is! What can't be cured must be endured (with a minimal damage)

[Faux Pas]

Because what is- is! What can't be cured must be endured (with a minimal damage)

Wow! Looks like a bit of actual wisdom.

[Jumper]

Aw, c'mon, AJ, that's like sticking your head in the sand...

lol no ,
its more like i just dont find the back and forth potshots ,or the dissecting of other people lives and relationships
,almost entirely based off very limited information ,all that interesting to read.

what used to be interesting to read ,
were the actual experiences of those contemplating or involved in
meeting someone from an entirely different culture (both sides of the equation)


The dissecting of them as a person, or the filleting of thier  personal situations,
not so much.

my post  isn't about KenC, he's been a big boy for a long time..
not much will ruffle his feathers any.

its about GENERAL board content.

There was a time when many of the boards were pretty wild,,
but still the undercurrent was one of common comradre
and more  a sharing of the experiences,and perhaps something learned from them.

it just wasnt that nessesary to spit out what was thought..about every detail presented or shared..
or take things way further than was needed or warranted.


kind of similar to sitting across the table from other people,
you just wouldnt say certain things , wether you thought them or not.

why? because of common courtesy and likely because what you "thought" was based on a hunch or vibe and not on facts or knowledge of the other persons situation.you wouldnt have the complete picture.


I dont think the line is that fine.

i think people in general know quite well when they've crossed it.


its become not only acceptable to cross,
but the main form of entertainment or *cough* value to way to many threads


i don't watch  jerry springer, its not my kind of entertainment at all.
 
its incredibly popular though, so a lot of people really like it.
 
A similar scenerio seems to run thru RW forums,,.
(and is a general thing in net forums at large)


i've a race i'm off to this morning, ,,early start and a long drive..
these type of personal back and forths,  were always around,,
but just arnt my cup of tea, and they've become more the norm,than the exception.
my wife has always wondered why i found anything of interest here ..
maybe she's been right all along , (see i'm not russian ,so  can admit that without losing in any pride lol)
or my viewpoint has simply shifted.


I wish everyone well..
life has been good for us,,and i hope for you all.

if so,, i'd like to read more supportive threads..
but i have little hope of that..lol





 

[ECOCKS]

Gets my vote for Post of the Month.

[Turboguy]

I can agree with you in theory.   I think it would be great if everyone could treat each other the way we would if we were sitting across from a dinner table from them but that doesn't seem to happen.

As much as I agree with AJ, it seems to be the threads where someone is ripping someone else apart or where someone has ideas way off in left field that have all the reads, machine gun rapid posts and create the most interest.   I think what I just said falls in the "sad but true" catagory.

[acrzybear]

I remember the first couple of years (2005-2007) when I first joined this forum, the original folks were helpful but at the same time they were not afraid to swing the "clue bat" and keep the ra ra folks in check.  There were a few lively discussions and disagreements, but with a few exceptions everyone was civil to each other.

  Now it seems like people are just looking for a reason to attack another person.

[KenC]

I remember the first couple of years (2005-2007) when I first joined this forum, the original folks were helpful but at the same time they were not afraid to swing the "clue bat" and keep the ra ra folks in check.  There were a few lively discussions and disagreements, but with a few exceptions everyone was civil to each other.

  Now it seems like people are just looking for a reason to attack another person.

Bear,
I have to agree with you.  Whether or not members can appreciate it or not, the "clue bat" is a form of tough love intended to help the member from making a perceived mistake in this process.  It is a verbal shaking of the member to ask "WTF are you thinking?"  This is usually followed with some logical advice.

A good example of this is what I did with Marcus or as I coined the phrase "one week wonder."  I was highly critical of his engagement after he met his wife only a few times and could not communicate with her.  I was hard on him because I thought he was nuts to take his coarse of action and did not want to see him fail.  As I said up thread, he then took the time and made multiple trips to get to know his now wife.  Whether my "clue batting" had anything to do with it or not, I do not know.  The purpose again, was to help him avoid a potential mistake.  Once he brought his wife to the states, I wished him well and dropped any negativity towards his actions.  Of course he has repeatedly thrown his "successful marriage" in my face and as in this thread comes back to attack my strong suggestions from the time past.  But in fact, he did do exactly as I had strongly suggested; he got to know his fiancee before marrying her.

Most of the criticisms of me in this thread have been of the "back bitting" variety.  The purpose of these criticisms have been for revenge from some perceived past injustice.  There is a huge difference between posting for revenge and posting to be helpful.  Regardless of ones stance on "clue batting", it does work on occasion and the intent is to help the person see the light.  I have always found the "ra ra guys" to be more harmful than helpful here.  Encouraging someone to do the wrong things just to be positive is wrong in my opinion.  Unfortunately RWD lost the most masterful clue batter we had in jb, and now we have a proponderous amount of back biters.
KenC

[Maxx2]

Something from an old timer you all would welcome with open arms.

Hey Maxx,

FWIW, you have the right to post your responses to Ken in his thread. You did take a lot of *snip*... you haven't given nearly as much as you got... but IMHO, you are wasting your time.

The fanboys will join with the "high roaders" and you will get little support...

Very true.

AJ mentioned camaraderie. That has been missing if it ever was here for sometime. Just take a look a Wayne's "wife split" thread. This nice man was dissected six ways from Sunday when he posted his story. Yep, there is uneven treatment given out by the "high roaders" of this place.


Maxx