Statistical abberation

[Lit_1nce]

Maxx,

Diabetes as I am sure you know by now, is serious stuff..

My dad found out he had it, by passing out one day at work.. Now he was overweight for many years, and drank quite a bit.. strange thing was that at his home he never had real sugar, always that sweet & low stuff ever since I can remember.. Now for about 4 years, he half a**ed took care of his diabetes with medication in pill form.. the problem was he continued to drink, and "treat" himself with sweets.. and he progressivly had worsening health.. you see diabetes will attack the nervous system, in his case it became more and more painful to walk... In some people it attacks the optic nerves leading to blindness.

We then worked out a deal for him to come live with me, and I worked hard to monitor his diet, but he still would sneak his treats, and most of all some wine, or vodka when he could get away with it. He rapidly lost weight, and it was clear that something else was going on.. He went to gastro specialists, and had tons of tests, and then one day he could not get out of bed, so we had to call an ambulance.. After a couple of days in the hospital, the doctor told us that he had pancreatic cancer, the next day he died.. it was such a sudden thing, that I often wonder if he made some kind of deal with the doc to avoid having to go through chemo.

So please take this seriously.. and don't cheat or "treat" yourself.. change your life habits, and stick to them.

When I researched things for my dad, I read that the Atkins diet was pretty good.. because the foods in it are the ones that convert to less sugar.. in fact the whole Atkins approach is to reduce sugar intake.

Alchohol is a no no.. pretty sure my dad would still be alive today if he could have quit altogether.

Other than my genes, I don't have the same risk factors my dad did (not over weight, rarely drink), but I still worry about it, and try and have a good diet and exercise.. I also take a suppliment called ALA (Alpha-Lipoic-Acid) which is supposed to, among other things, help your body use blood sugar.. however I don't have diabetes, and I would suggest anyone who does to ask their doctor before taking it as a suppliment.

I wish you a speedy road back to good health, and a better lifestyle !

Lit

[Gator]

I still can't get the image of wrinkled old a*s*s of my all-time-favorite Jack Nicholson from "Something Gotta Give" movie  outta my brain when he was flaunting it in hospital gown .      Terrible...    But you can't fix that when person gets old...   No matter how many push-ups he/she can do... 

    True.  I will agree that men's popkas tend to melt away.  Why not mention that women's popkas fall down?  And falling occurs much sooner than melting.

Regarding men, do you know the meaning of “dickdo” disease?

Ooooops, good to see you posting again.

[Ade]

Maxx,

Diabetes as I am sure you know by now, is serious stuff..

My dad found out he had it, by passing out one day at work.. Now he was overweight for many years, and drank quite a bit.. strange thing was that at his home he never had real sugar, always that sweet & low stuff ever since I can remember.. Now for about 4 years, he half a**ed took care of his diabetes with medication in pill form.. the problem was he continued to drink, and "treat" himself with sweets.. and he progressivly had worsening health.. you see diabetes will attack the nervous system, in his case it became more and more painful to walk... In some people it attacks the optic nerves leading to blindness.

We then worked out a deal for him to come live with me, and I worked hard to monitor his diet, but he still would sneak his treats, and most of all some wine, or vodka when he could get away with it. He rapidly lost weight, and it was clear that something else was going on.. He went to gastro specialists, and had tons of tests, and then one day he could not get out of bed, so we had to call an ambulance.. After a couple of days in the hospital, the doctor told us that he had pancreatic cancer, the next day he died.. it was such a sudden thing, that I often wonder if he made some kind of deal with the doc to avoid having to go through chemo.

So please take this seriously.. and don't cheat or "treat" yourself.. change your life habits, and stick to them.

When I researched things for my dad, I read that the Atkins diet was pretty good.. because the foods in it are the ones that convert to less sugar.. in fact the whole Atkins approach is to reduce sugar intake.

Alchohol is a no no.. pretty sure my dad would still be alive today if he could have quit altogether.

Other than my genes, I don't have the same risk factors my dad did (not over weight, rarely drink), but I still worry about it, and try and have a good diet and exercise.. I also take a suppliment called ALA (Alpha-Lipoic-Acid) which is supposed to, among other things, help your body use blood sugar.. however I don't have diabetes, and I would suggest anyone who does to ask their doctor before taking it as a suppliment.

I wish you a speedy road back to good health, and a better lifestyle !

Lit

I didn't know of the association between diabetes and pancreatic cancer although from what I just read it seems likely; one thing I do know though is that once you have pancreatic cancer it's a death sentence for sure. I did some reading about this when my mother was diagnosed some years ago and I think the longest anyone had survived at that time was 5 years and most people succumbed within 6 months of being diagnosed.

[Ooooops]

Why not mention that women's popkas fall down? 

Ooooops, good to see you posting again.

Don't you dare!!!  :evil:   

Thanks, I'm glad to be remembered   

[Ooooops]

Regarding men, do you know the meaning of “dickdo” disease?

No.   Please, enlighten me!   

(I only know "mirror" disease regarding men)

[Turboguy]

So, did you adapt her or married her?      Sorry, couldn't resist...   

Good question Oooooops.  I spend time helping her with her homework, so perhaps I adopted her.   On the other hand as much as she mothers me and since I never really grew up anyway, perhaps she adopted me.

[Gator]

No.   Please, enlighten me!   

(I only know "mirror" disease regarding men)

I will enlighten you if you do the same regarding "Mirror" disease. 

"Dickdo" disease is when a man's stomach sticks our farther than his dick do.   

And man has another affliction, "mirror" disease?   It thought that was the RW's disease of not being able to pass a mirror without looking.

[JR]

I will enlighten you if you do the same regarding "Mirror" disease. 

"Dickdo" disease is when a man's stomach sticks our farther than his dick do.   

I have that problem and my stomach is flat and hard, what does that mean?

[SANDRO43]

I have that problem and my stomach is flat and hard, what does that mean?

Another disease: dick don't (exist) .

[Ooooops]

I spend time helping her with her homework, so perhaps I adopted her.   On the other hand as much as she mothers me and since I never really grew up anyway, perhaps she adopted me.

Well, as long as neither of you end up in foster home, then it doesn't matter who adapted whom   

[Ooooops]

I will enlighten you if you do the same regarding "Mirror" disease. 

"Dickdo" disease is when a man's stomach sticks our farther than his dick do.   

Pretty much the same thing - when a man can see his dick only in mirror reflection because of big belly.   

[Daveman]

Yep, and then there is "Giggledick" where the ladies point and giggle at the most inopportune moments

[Ooooops]

Yep, and then there is "Giggledick" where the ladies point and giggle at the most inopportune moments

[Gator]

Oooops,

You were ready for that one.

[Daveman]

 

Hey now! stop posting my photos on a public forum! 

[Ooooops]

Oooops,

You were ready for that one.

I love that cartoon, makes me giggle... 

[Ooooops]

Hey now! stop posting my photos on a public forum! 

You look different on your avatar.   

[ConnerVT]

I have that problem and my stomach is flat and hard, what does that mean?

Poor eyesight?

[Ooooops]

Ok "Mr Six Figures" 
When I need business advice from someone driving (living?) in a 1980's minivan, I'll give you a call.
KenC

Ken, Why not join us dancing with the Russian ladies at Dance Motion studios Tuesday or Thursday nights. getting out of the house will do you some good.  There are lots of beautiful women of all ages that need a dance partner.

Mishenka, you are a saint!   

[Ooooops]

I am afraid to put my personal questions out there.  This is very close to my heart and very dear to me and I cannot handle sniping taking place over my new family. 

I admit, I'm an old Internet junkie.   I've been on chat forums for ...  I guess 12-13 years.   And what I've learned from that long time experience - if you have something very-very personal, you never share it on a public forum.   Ever.   No matter how nice and protected that forum seems.   Because sooner or later that information will come back and bite you on your a*s*s       School districts, driving lessons etc do not fall into this "very-very personal" category, so no need to be paranoid too much.   

[Ooooops]

Prime example there was a member here that had a business in Russia and had a heart attack and ran into some financial difficulties.  Myself and several other members were in a position to help and we did without him ever asking, I would not see that happening now.  I ran into some unexpected problems in Russia and JB helped me out without a seconds hesitation and I had only met him face to face one time.

 This used to be a community, now it's a viper pit.
 

I'm sure people still help each other (well, they help those who they think deserve that help), but may be without too much hoopla?   How do you know it doesn't happen?   Only because it wasn't published on the board? 

[Ooooops]

Been too busy grappling with the loss of my father a week ago. Somehow "weeding them out" at RWD did not make it into the top of my priority list.

Dan, my condolences.... 

[AnastassiaAsh]

Well, I spent about 4 days reading this thread. It seems I am one of the last ones to reply, but i am really glad I was one of the first to actually learn from Ken himself what was happening in his life. Several months ago we exchanged some emails and a phone call. I felt all kinds of emotions as Ken's and Lena's situation in a way is quite close to me. I mean circumstance wise, not the outcome. It's a very good thing that being a strong man and relying only on himself, Ken decided to come out and share this tragedy with all of us. If not for others it's good for him first of all. It's very hard to do that on the internet, in a vertual world where a very wide range of reactions can emotionally squeeze you. But after some time he did it any way and I am aplawding him for that. We exchanged several pretty long emails. After reading this thread, i have realized that my opinion hasn't changed. So I will just copy and paste my email to Ken here that is on the subject:

Hi Ken,
 
Again, thank you for sharing these things with me.
 
Wow, what can I say. A common conclusion comes to mind - she used you. :-( When she needed you to start her pretty comfortable life in the US, she took you, when it came time to support, help and mostly unconditionally love you - she bailed! For some reason 10 years ago she didn't think that you would age and she would need a younger man with the same current life goals. Really, what a difference!

I know exactly all the details about what is involved being together with a very sick person. I know exactly how it all looks and how incredibly exhausting on all levels it is. But clearly, her decision was made not out of love or devotion. That's the time when I always say - what is there to bind you? What is there to bind both of you to each other forever? There are now vows to God or a promise to God! Legally - both you and her have a right for a divorce or separation. But then again - why marry then at all? I will probably never understand how people do this. In any situation and in this situation in particular - I always think - what would God want me to do? What would God think about me? about this kind of decision? What would I say to Him, looking into His eyes, when He asks me - "Ok, Anastassia, several questions to you - Why were you weak? Why didn't you do your wife duty to take care of your husband? How could you love him and not stand beside him to the end? Where is your devotion and love? Don't you understand, Anastassia, the way you treated your husband, is the way you treat Me!..."
 
When a person doesn't have faith, he or she doesn't even think this way. There is nobody to answer to for her or his deeds or words. Wrong or right, black or white - everything becomes gray and mixed up.
 
When everything is ok in the marriage - it's great, but only through such problems you will know how honest, true and devoted she is to you. These are bad things but it's good to go through these tests because only these tests will show you the true heart of a person you married. Visa problems - are absolutely nothing in comparison to this, and I know you know that. I see that Lena didn't think ahead at all. She didn't think what she would do in 10-20-30 years and how she would see herself beside you when you are so much older than her. She never thought about it and thus, never confronted herself to these ideas. We can only guess, though, what she did think about. I think you know the answer.
 
Of course I don't know all the details and it's not up to me to judge, but it seems to me all the ladies who marry much older guys are pretty quick to put themselves through universities or colleges here (using his money), pretty quick to establish their professional position and find a great job (save and stash her own money), pretty quick to send money back home to Russia....but their husbands and the relationship itself are on the 10th place and aren't paid special attention to as it should be.
 
So now the question is - How are you really spoiled? How did she spoil you? Are you sure you know what 'being spoilt' truly means? So far, it is her who was spoilt by you everywhere. Do you agree? Would you have been that depressed if she had stood by you 100%, prayed for you, was with you 24/7, encouraged you, told you that you were strong, that was only the matter of time, that she loved you no matter what......?
 
I perfectly understand the feeling of wanting to be with a healthy young person, with somebody who would take care of you, not you take care of him, who would be physically strong and beautiful, who wouldn't know what constant unbearable pain is ( when only several tablets of morphine can ease it) and who wouldn't think about death, who wouldn't throw up three times a day...on and on and on....I know the feeling, I know the feeling of the end and fear and anger and total injustice, I know the feeling of wanting just to disappear - I know too well how Lena must have felt - I just didn't choose myself, at the end I just chose Lance (my late husband). This is how I would want him to treat me too if the situation was reversed.
 
I am really sorry Ken. I hope that your are recovering and doing good in terms of your condition. It's very rare when a doctor truly cares about his patients. The best would be probably just to spend some time with your close friends and family, only those who understand you and love you. I wouldn't go to Ukraine or anywhere there at this time. I don't know if you pray, but I would say you need to do that and just try to start the healing process. It all starts from contemplating, admitting your own mistakes, being honest to yourself...
 
Anastassia.

[Ade]

When a person doesn't have faith, he or she doesn't even think this way. There is nobody to answer to for her or his deeds or words. Wrong or right, black or white - everything becomes gray and mixed up.

Anastassia, although I agree with your general sentiments I really wish people like you would realize that a belief in one god or another has absolutely nothing to do with ones fundamental moral character. In fact, I would go as far as to say that the most ethically and morally challenged people I've met are "believers".

And btw, ultimately, everyone has someone to answer to; themselves.

[ECOCKS]

Anastasia:

Thank you for the analysis and expression of a highly relevant point of view on the situation.