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Author Topic: Caution1 Your FSUW is most likely infected with the H. Pylori Bacteria  (Read 18372 times)

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Yep, then I expressed mine. Ta da! The system works!
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I find Ronnie's approach offensive because of the way he named topic "Caution1 Your FSUW is most likely infected with the H. Pylori Bacteria "

He didn't write "Caution1 You and your family are likely to be infected with the H. Pylori Bacteria".

I find his formulation both discriminative and offensive.
What is offensive?  You (WM) are not "likely" (70-80 percent is quite high odds) to have the bacteria.  Your FSUW is more likely than not to have it.  I couldn't very well write it the way you wanted now could I?  BTW, the doctor said it is not something that is passed around in a family.  It comed from water and usually when one is a child.

Found this on the net....don't know how accurate it is.  Sure seems to be a lot of controversy here about the stupid condition.

Here are the 10 most common H. pylori symptoms;
H pylori could be contributing to your symptoms
if you are suffering from any of the following;


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1. Heartburn or Acid Reflux (GERD)
Whether these symptoms occur on a regular, or even infrequent basis, you may well be infected with H. pylori.

2. Diarrhea, Constipation, Flatulence, Bloating.
Because H. pylori interferes with acid in your stomach, you can't digest food properly.

3. Fatigue and Low Energy Levels.
H pylori creates a non-stop stress on your body, making you feel tired. Added to the possibility that you are not digesting your food properly, your body is not getting the correct nourishment to maintain it's proper energy levels.

4. Nausea & Vomiting.
Many people feel nauseous when with H. pylori infections. Sometimes this can mistaken for pregnancy morning sickness. In some cases, vomiting does occur.

5. Unplanned Weight and Muscle Loss.
Because H pylori affects acid levels - which affects the digestive process of fats and proteins especially - you may notice that you are losing weight. The problem is that this weight loss is due to muscle loss, which is a dangerous way to lose weight.

6. Difficulty Losing Weight
This is a surprising symptom opposite to the above. The reason for this is that a hormone called cortisol is produced when your body is stressed. Cortisol is known to cause either weight loss or weight gain, depending on the person. Cortisol can promote weight gain around the stomach area, and at the same time can also cause muscle loss.

7. Hormonal Symptoms including Mood Swings & PMS
These are usually caused by an over production of Cortisol caused by the stresses of the body trying to deal with infections.

8. Depression and Anxiety
A very important mood chemical (called serotonin) is largely made in a healthy digestive system. Any damage to your stomach by an H. pylori infection will lead to a shortage of this important chemical.

9. Gum Disease, Bad Breath and other Oral infections
Although the H pylori bacteria lives mostly in the stomach and small intestines, it has also been found in the mouth, and even in dental cavities.

10. Blocked nose, painful sinuses, colds and infections
Most people are unaware that the sinuses are joined to the digestive system, and that any irritation to the digestive system can cause sinus problems.
 

Other less common symptoms....
These may include tension headaches, clouded thinking, yeast infections, body chills, cramping, joint pain, painful lymph nodes and general body aches.

H. Pylori symptoms such as those mentioned above may seem quite broad and confusing, and some people can be completely overwhelmed by the number of symptoms that they are experiencing all at the same time.

Hopefully, this list of symptoms has helped you work out if you are infected with H. pylori. If you are still not quite certain, then please make sure by visiting a health professional, and insisting on an H. Pylori Stool Antigen (HPSA) test.
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That list of symptoms is about as helpful as a kick in the face. :rolleyes2: Half the illnesses known to man have one or more of them.

And let's be objective here; it seems that only a small percentage of people known to have H. Pylori have any health issues at all so try to get some perspective.

I also agree with mies when it comes to your choice of topic title; you've admitted to not particualrly liking much at all about the FSU and it shows in the wording of most of your posts.

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That's a strange comment SJ.  I don't believe I say what I like or dislike about the FSU, I simply tell it like it is or at least the way it is observed by me and many others.  What do you want people to say?  This thread is a health announcement that affects nearly all of us on this board.  Most have appreciated the info.  I know I would had someone posted it.  My wife is feeling much better now and did have many of the symptoms listed.  I would have liked to have known about it sooner.  It it is of no interest to you and your personal situation why bother to comment at all? 

As I said...strange.
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That's a strange comment SJ.  I don't believe I say what I like or dislike about the FSU, I simply tell it like it is or at least the way it is observed by me and many others.  What do you want people to say?  This thread is a health announcement that affects nearly all of us on this board.  Most have appreciated the info.  I know I would had someone posted it.  My wife is feeling much better now and did have many of the symptoms listed.  I would have liked to have known about it sooner.  It it is of no interest to you and your personal situation why bother to comment at all? 

As I said...strange.

You can be deliberately obtuse if you want but you're not so stupid that you do not realize that almost anything can have a negative spin put on it. And so far, all I've read from you is negative spin on everything FSU and that is strange when you consider what this forum is all about. Maybe you'd have problems reconciling your self confessed hero complex if you were any different though.

As for H. Pylori, yeah, well, seems like some people are adversely affected but the wording of your original post, particularly the subject smacked of scaremongering more than fact sharing. If I posted a similar thread on a RW forum titled, "Caution! Your American boyfriend may be infected with the H. Pylori Bacteria" I'd be immediately labelled anti-American. 

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Oh my! Until quite recently most folks in the FSU purchased their vegetables from open air markets.  As did I when I lived there for three years.  Unlike open air markets in Western Europe, the FSU kiosks did not have "cleaned up" vegetable produce.  In most cases local vegetables still had clumps of dirt and dung still attached to them.  The meat market had no refrigeration and had 100 times more flies than people, and nearly as many mangy dogs laying underneath or strolling about.  Hygiene?  What's that?  Every time I purchased vegetables, I brought them home, scrubbed them, then scrubbed them again in a dilute clorox solution.  Based on my own anecdotal experience, bacterial food poisoning is quite common in Ukraine, as is Hepatitis.  When I lived there, there was even a cholera outbreak.  H. pylori leading to ulcers is pretty common everywhere, but more so in the FSU and third world countries, my wife had it and was successfully treated for it, as did her parents and brothers and sisters.  So far, I'm OK :)  Ukraine has a per capita income that's about 10% of the more advanced economies.  This means that a great many people there live in poverty.  There is a correlation in any given population between poverty and disease and health care.  This is reality and is not anti-FSU. 

H. pylori is not the only issue effecting women from the FSU, you need to look at hypothyroidism and dental care as other examples.

Should the men reading here have some awareness of these issues, in my opinion they should.   

Should people with some emotional attachment (Rodina maya Rodina!) to Ukraine or elsewhere feel insulted when this subject is mentioned, then let me just say that Ukraine's diseases are the best and finest diseases in the world, far ahead of every other nation's.


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If I posted a similar thread on a RW forum titled, "Caution! Your American boyfriend may be infected with the H. Pylori Bacteria" I'd be immediately labelled anti-American. 

Not if it was a true statement. Backed up with facts from competent sources.

Ronnie:

My wife already recognizes the issues involved with having digestive track issues and wants the most thorough checkup and corrective treatment program she can get when she gets here. She witnessed my issues with bad water, general distress and then both listened to our doctors as well as read as much as possible about bacteria in the GI tract. She is adamant that the cleaner food in the US will be better for her if she can eliminate as much of the foreign bacteria as possible. I know the doctor there mentioned that there is one problem she will have difficulty getting rid of due to its tenacious hold on her system.

Thanks for the headsup Ronnie. Both my wife and I appreciated it.

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What is offensive?  You (WM) are not "likely" (70-80 percent is quite high odds) to have the bacteria.  Your FSUW is more likely than not to have it.  I couldn't very well write it the way you wanted now could I? 

you didn't give the incidence rate for americans, and unlike it is suggested by your formulation, it isn't "0", it is merely "lower". when you compare 50% incidence rate, and 70% incidence rate, even if the difference is statistically significant - you can only speak of a "higher incidence rate for population of FSU people". You as a native speaker of English should know the difference between the two formulations.

Krimster - I offered a joke with E. Coli, but Ronnie apparently didn't digest and didn't appreciate it - probably because he doesn't know much neither about Pylori, nor E. Coli - hence he can't draw the parallel. E.Coli also contributes/regulates the acidity level in the stomach, and can cause discomfort and other conditions as mentioned by Ronnie in his "list of symptoms". These symptoms can appear when you have too little of E.Coli in your stomach (problems with digestion and other), or too much (heartburn and other). If you take antibiotics - you kill the E.Coli in your stomach - this is what the term "selectivity of antibiotics" is referred to - the highly selective antibiotics would target the Pylori only (ideal objective but hard to attain).

The negative effects of thyroid diseases are known and proven. If you have it - you are sick, not like with Pylori. The # of people who actually have discomfort from bacteria are much less than 100% of infected. I have not seen any medical article which offers to eradicate the Pylori in everybody, because this bacteria potentially, with probability of 0.0000001% (or what is the percentage? Ronnie quoted it somewhere) can lead to ulcer. I tend to think that Pylori may have some useful functions in the body, which is not completely discovered yet, - same as the appendix (that was my second joke, also not appreciated by Ronnie. Does anybody know what % of people with appendicitis die? my guess - it would be something comparable to people who get ulcer from bacteria- i may be wrong of course). My attitude has nothing to do with "fancy" vs "not fancy" diseases. Though i appreciate your typical machist joke - same style as FSU male can do - I guess some features are pretty much international. If real macho doesn't have facts to support his argument - why not just saying "you women like fancy and fluffy stuff" :P
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Not if it was a true statement. Backed up with facts from competent sources.

Bollocks. You are perfectly aware that there's a difference between facts and tone, and his tone spoke volumes. Maybe this obtuseness is an American thing. :rolleyes2:

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Bollocks. You are perfectly aware that there's a difference between facts and tone, and his tone spoke volumes. Maybe this obtuseness is an American thing. :rolleyes2:

SJ,

 The only negative tone I'm picking up from this thread is yours.  Mies can be forgiven because she is emotionally involved.  Yours is a bit harder to understand unless you harbor some grudge against Americans. (If that's the case, ask us how much it bothers us.)

Should people with some emotional attachment (Rodina maya Rodina!) to Ukraine or elsewhere feel insulted when this subject is mentioned, then let me just say that Ukraine's diseases are the best and finest diseases in the world, far ahead of every other nation's.

On that topic, I have noticed that Ukrainians are somewhat more objective on issues involving their homeland.   Your comment is more descriptive, at least in my experience, of those FSUW of the Russian variety.  Everything that is not praise is taken as an insult.  Even genuine praise is often seen as sarcastic.  Oh well.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2009, 11:41:11 AM by Ronnie »
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People, people

The information Ronnie provided is factually correct

According to this wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori he provided

"...More than 50% of the world's population harbour H. pylori in their upper gastrointestinal tract"
"...Infection is more prevalent in developing countries."
"...the Third World has much higher infection rates than the West"
"...although this is likely related to socioeconomic rather than racial factors."
"...The lower rate of infection in the West is largely attributed to higher hygiene standards..."

There is nothing at all to indicate that the anecdotal report of a 75% infection rate among FSU women is incorrect.  In the USA general population the infection rate is about 1/3 that, and among middle-class White Males probably less because the USA statistic includes Hispanics and Blacks who have a higher incidence, likely due to "socio-economic" factors.

So, in terms of facts, his statement is correct.  If something has a greater than 50% chance of being true, I see nothing wrong with stating that it is "most likely".  There is nothing to argue about in regards to the truth of his statement.  It's a fact.

So what you are arguing about is his "tone".  I suspect that perception of tone like beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  Therefor the argument really has no involvement with the facts of Ronnie's statements, but instead about the attitudes and beliefs of those who object to them, such as "obtuseness is an American thing"  All you "objectors" are doing is demonstrating your own biases and bigotry and that seems to be your motivation for making these statements.  Ronnie on the other hand, was trying to provide what he felt was helpful information, and many here have thanked him for it (I would to, but I've already been down that road with my wife).


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You have a citation for that? I only see 50% mentioned as a number for worldwide infection.

Sure, you can find it in this college level Human physiology book. There are a number of different flora and fauna which live in our bodies naturally. Things can happen to adversely effect their numbers. As a result there are consequences... :o 8)
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The internet does say that this condition is common, and it is more common in third-world countries with lower sanitary norms, plus people in developed countries may be using too much antibiotics. However, I disagree that the observations of your doctor about disease incidence can be generalized to the whole population of the Eastern European emigrants. The real frequency may be even higher than 75%, but it is scientifically and statistically wrong to make such judgment as you do based on the opinion of one doctor.


I don't even understand what you're arguing about? Ronnie gave a piece of correct and valuable information. It's very well known in the "Russian', that is FSU community and with the doctors, who treat FSU immigrants.

I won't go into a variety of reasons why it's so prevalent over there (poor quality of tap water all over the FSU is one of the reasons), but the doctors, who work with many FSU immigrants prescribe the tests - gastroenteroscopy with mucuous membrane samples and stool samples as a routine for the first complete physical...

There need not be such dramatic symptoms as bouts of vomiting lasting 2-3 days (who is the woman - a moron? Even in a small town in Russia she would have been sent for a complete check-up with this), but much mildewr ones, which people take in their stride - heartburn, bad taste and smell in|from the mouth, acid reflux, intolerance to a wide variety of perfectly fresh and generally harmless foods, etc., etc., etc.

If you had those from the time you were a teenager, and everyone has these, and you just pop down some bicarb or mineral water like Borzhomi (or a shot - 2-3-... who counts - of vodka with your meals), - why would you consider there's something wrong with you? When everyone is like this? And the doctors do not pay any attention (even if you go and complain to the doctor) and certainly do not order all these tests or prescribe anything.

After my doctor when I first turned to him did a complete battery of various tests, this bacteria was found. And I had a week of very severe food and medication regimen (the meds were unplesant, I was feeling sick, I developed an awful yeast-like infection - one of the 3 pills was so strong that it was muder on the natural flora) - but after this I'm so well! I didn't even realise, how UNwell I were before. Gone are the heartburn, by breath is clean-smelling, I do not feel slightly sick after a meal or have unpleasant hollow sucking feeling before one, etc., etc. - to sum I'm feeling generally much better than I did in years and years, as long as I remember myself.

AS to the antibiotics - surprise, surprise! - their use is much worse in Russia than in the USA. Here at least one needs a prescription, and rare indeed is a doctor who'll give one without some reason. In Russia you either don't need a prescription, or the doctor will write it out for the asking, or you'll just go to the row of people who stand near a drugstore and ask - if the first one doesn't have it, they'll find somebody for you who does. Thus I bought sleeping pills, mild (and not so mild) tranquilizers, and much more...

On the Russian womens forum this is mentioned time and again how the Russian brides dose themselves and their families with all sorts of drugs brought from "home", including antibiotics...They even get angry that they couldn't buy their remedy of choice like ampicillyne over the counter - "It's so good! I treat everything with it!" ;)
 
 
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you didn't give the incidence rate for americans, and unlike it is suggested by your formulation, it isn't "0", it is merely "lower". when you compare 50% incidence rate, and 70% incidence rate, even if the difference is statistically significant - you can only speak of a "higher incidence rate for population of FSU people". You as a native speaker of English should know the difference between the two formulations.


I'm sure that you feel this allusion to statistics very logical and valid, but sorry - no, it is not. There's no statistic about the prevalence of the subj bacteria in the FSU, because it's not tested for and isn't even considered anything but natural stomach flora. Routine procedure like gastroenteroscopy (or colonoscopy BTW) is done only when something is seriously wrong. Stool - a cheap and easy test - is tested for parasites, blood and when there's a persistent diarrhea, not for Pylori. Again - it is (or was until very recently, like 2 years ago) considered a natural phenomenon, not a pathology which needs treatment.

In the USA the population is tested for this routinely, and it's treated immediately as a pathogene. With immigrants it's tested for just because they come for their first physical here - they start their case history. So you want to compare statistics for the most of American adult population to the statistics for those and only those who immigrate to the US.

BTW, immigrants from Asia - India, China, etc. and from Latin America do NOT show such a high incidence of these bacteria as immigrants from the FSU. Don't ask me why - I don't know. Also nobody as far as I'm aware is trying to track down Pylori in FSU - to fgind out what's going on. I think tyhat this is because of the reaction that you demonstarted here - to proclaim a statistically significant fact an insult to a nation ;D
Maybe you'll breath easier when I tell you that Pylori doesn't distinguish between great Russians, White Russians, lesser Russians (Ukrainians), Jews, etc. - it seems to be without prejudice ;)

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Dear Wienerin,
   Thank you for mentioning Escherichia coli. 

Ole E. Coli was really quite a fella
who giggled as he wiggled his flagella
RWD readers surely can relate
How ole E. Coli liked to conjugate

So friends lets stop all the hatin
and get on with how we're all realtin
What Brother Ron sez is all quite true
don't think my brother's dissin the FSU

Now break it on down....

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BTW, immigrants from Asia - India, China, etc. and from Latin America do NOT show such a high incidence of these bacteria as immigrants from the FSU. Don't ask me why - I don't know.
Maybe H. Pylori thrives on vodka ;)? How about setting up a serious research project, any volunteers :D?
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There need not be such dramatic symptoms as bouts of vomiting lasting 2-3 days (who is the woman - a moron? Even in a small town in Russia she would have been sent for a complete check-up with this),


you are offending Ronnie's wife

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Ronnie is not giving a blueprint for the cause of particular symptoms. He's only providing information that could help someone
help their Doctor in finding out what is causing a specific problem. The title doesn't say absolutely is, but says most likely is. Ok, the
title could say "could be", but, the title is not specific to anyone or to any specific symptoms. He is only providing information.
I don't understand the problem here.  There doesn't seem to be much here to get offended over. But, I have been wrong 1, maybe
more than 1 time before on this board.

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Sure, you can find it in this college level Human physiology book. There are a number of different flora and fauna which live in our bodies naturally. Things can happen to adversely effect their numbers. As a result there are consequences... :o 8)

That is a book advertisement.  I still go with the multiple citations contained on Wiki and the things which pop on Google. I see nothing that says everyone is infected. OTOH I see numerous original source citations from medical researchers, drug companies and reputable institutions.
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If you think about it, the H. pylori are takin jobs away from the other bacteria.  Just because they tolerate low ph environments and have this attitude, "oh look at me, I have my own genus"  Sure, but if there weren't other bacteria in the human gut generating H2 what good would H. pylori's hydrogenase production be then, eh, did you ever ask yourself that?

"Chuck" Darwin had it right of course and Helminthic therapy using Sea Monkeys is gaining popularity in Ukraine for treatment of unbalanced microflora, replacing Ethanol sterilization of the GI tract as proposed in the trial study of Sandro Labs.

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you are offending Ronnie's wife

I wondered that too.  Of course my wife has been to many doctors, both in the FSU (he mother was a pediatrician) and in the USA. The USA docs have been of all sorts, one India-trained, one Chinese, two US trained and three have been Russia trained. This last Russia-trained doctor and I'll give his name - Tim Gurtch, has been excellent, the best of the lot and not just because he ordered the H pylori test.

Thank you to Wienerin, Ecocks, Krimster, Markus and all the others who recognized that I did not chose this topic out of the blue to cast any negative light on anyone.  We love our FSUWs and want them to be be happy and healthy.
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you are offending Ronnie's wife

I'm not offending anyone - I'm just wondering why and how a sane adult regularly having this vomiting for 2-3 days in a row a) could function, b) didn't go to a doctor for a complete check-up... 9 out of 10 this could have been something much worse than simple H.Pylori.

But as to H.Pylori... well, highly probable this wouldn't have been diagnosed as a disease, as I've said earlier.

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Sure, but if there weren't other bacteria in the human gut generating H2 what good would H. pylori's hydrogenase production be then, eh, did you ever ask yourself that?
All the time. Do H.P.-ridden patients have to wear placards prominently displaying Warning, Hazardous Materials or Flammable Gas when in public places :D?
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That is a book advertisement.  I still go with the multiple citations contained on Wiki and the things which pop on Google. I see nothing that says everyone is infected. OTOH I see numerous original source citations from medical researchers, drug companies and reputable institutions.

No, that was my attempt at being politically correct and hoping you'd get the my point. Which was what you ask? Simply, that you need to do your own research, and figure it out. I'm not here to hold your hand and connect the dots for you. You wanted to know where you could find some more info. on the topic, and I posted a link to a primary source book and or location where you can purchase it. I have nothing to gain either way. FWIW, you could take a trip to your local medical school and sit in their library and research it for free. They would even hold your hand while you did it and help explain everything to you. One quick tip for you, which I tried to point out subtly to you. You should be researching normal physiology first as opposed to concentrating solely on pathophysiology...

Furthermore, I hate to further be the bearer of bad news for you but wikipedia isn't considered primary source info. by anyone in medicine. Therefore it ranks right up there next to useless. Try Up To Date, or other appropriate resources or better yet take an advanced A&P class. Message ends..Out Here
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No, that was my attempt at being politically correct and hoping you'd get the my point. Which was what you ask? Simply, that you need to do your own research, and figure it out. I'm not here to hold your hand and connect the dots for you. You wanted to know where you could find some more info. on the topic, and I posted a link to a primary source book and or location where you can purchase it. I have nothing to gain either way. FWIW, you could take a trip to your local medical school and sit in their library and research it for free. They would even hold your hand while you did it and help explain everything to you. One quick tip for you, which I tried to point out subtly to you. You should be researching normal physiology first as opposed to concentrating solely on pathophysiology...

Furthermore, I hate to further be the bearer of bad news for you but wikipedia isn't considered primary source info. by anyone in medicine. Therefore it ranks right up there next to useless. Try Up To Date, or other appropriate resources or better yet take an advanced A&P class. Message ends..Out Here

What a *snip*ing idiot. "I hate to be the bearer....." You probably couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the directions were printed on the heel. That's what we say when the first stage of subtle doesn't work and we start to realize we are dealing with an imbecile.

I clearly and politely stated, "You have a citation for that? I only see 50% mentioned as a number for worldwide infection."

Did you complete fith grade?

The reason I ask is that a fifth grader doing an elementary school report knows not to cite Wikipedia as a source but to pick the links found at the bottom in the Reference Section (see example since you apparently don't know how to utilize Wikipedia). Then  they track them to their sources to determine link credibility.

This set has links to real researchers at real Universities, over a dozen Medical Journals, the National Institute of Health, medical texts (properly cited though), papers presented/accepted by Medical Societies, several non-profit Medical Research and Clincal Centers and other reputable sources.

You apparently need to find a fifth grader and learn about how to cite resources which provide some proof for your point.

Example for those too lazy to scroll down a Wiki entry:

References
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