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Re: A Serious Question
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2009, 03:43:38 PM »
I would personally inspect all of the ladies!   :evil:



I take this post seriouly. Why not make it a match making agency. Cater to those who'll spend the money to have one on one attention from start to finish. There are many people in America doing this and they make quite a good living.

So if I had my own agency I make it a personal one. I would charge a lot but would provide results.
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Re: A Serious Question
« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2009, 09:53:57 PM »
And give it a catchy name, like CBAXA.com    ;)

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Re: A Serious Question
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2009, 05:32:53 AM »
CBAXA.com    ;)

Dog?  My Russian is limited to less than 200 words.

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Re: A Serious Question
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2009, 06:48:21 AM »
Dog?  My Russian is limited to less than 200 words.


СВАХА
means matchmaker in Russian   ;)

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Re: A Serious Question
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2009, 07:30:52 AM »
СВАХА means matchmaker in Russian   ;)
Then this could be used as a background theme music ;):

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Hj7bp38f8[/youtube]
Milan's "Duomo"

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Re: A Serious Question
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2009, 09:02:13 AM »
Then this could be used as a background theme music ;):

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Re: A Serious Question
« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2009, 09:15:09 AM »
I cannot imagine after a thorough examination, and some time invested in observing, why one would expend the energy?

Good women are in bad agencies.  Women with less clear agendas are in good ones.  IT IS LIKE A GROUP OF ANY HUMAN BEINGS - a mixed bag at best.  Less so for sure, because of the implicit conditions and premises that are on both sides of the equation; AM and RW! 

Add to that the customers you have to FIGHT to win (that is where your earnings come from).  And, look honestly at any group of 100 men that travel looking for a foreign bride - notice I said "any group of 100", not a filtered or qualified group ... are these really the kind of people you would desire to spend time with as "clients"?

I have gotten very close to these affairs and it resembles a CIRCUS ... illusion; displays of courage; clowns (guess who); the whole caste is present.

We know of some agencies that made - apparently - good money years ago.  The mom and pops are a labor of love.

Finding good men and women is difficult. Having them find each other is more difficult still. Always has been; always will be.

« Last Edit: May 23, 2009, 09:18:12 AM by rivardco »

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Re: A Serious Question
« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2009, 05:59:58 PM »

- Our idea is simple: We want no weird people, both men or women.


That would leave you at best two Russian women and one male client...

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Re: A Serious Question
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2009, 07:22:39 PM »
Interesting, chat room access for a fee add-on rather than a per event basis. Hopefully Elena Petrova is checking websites like these for new ideas, that and a more lengthy application/qualification process are both positive thoughts on cleaning up the serious FSUW environment.

Lucky Lovers offers a public chat room for free, plus private webcam chat for any
of paying members ($20 per month).

FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Just kiss the girl, don't ask her first. Tolerate NO excuses!

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Re: A Serious Question
« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2009, 04:19:40 PM »
After giving it some more thought here is how I would run an FSUW marriage agency...

1.   I would charge a fairly steep price for personalized service to the male clients. Some of the services I would provide would include:

A.   I would limit my male clientele to about 8 per year.
B.   I would spend time interviewing/getting to know each of the male customers and creating a profile of what and who they are looking for. I would council them as to what is realistic and what isn’t. I would work up a list of important items to go over with them such as the language barrier and cultural differences, etc. which may for may not effect the situation.
C.   Personal training in a gym.  A lot of guys carry around extra weight and are in lousy shape. If you are expecting a woman to have a great figure then you should be willing to present her with the same. I would work up a program tailored to their needs and see that they follow it. I would work on any weakness I perceived or were brought out during the interview process.
D.   I would get them a personal dresser. Most likely an FSUW. Who better to make sure you dress for success with an FSUW?
E.   I would have a marriage councilor interview the men and come up with a personality type. This would assist in finding realistic potential mates. It would also help weed out the undesirables.
F.   I would have a contract which states that within a specified time period we would be on a plane me meet a certain number of potentials.
G.   I may or may not accompany them on their first trip. Either way I would have someone on the ground in county to meet them and take the pressures off of being in a strange environment.
H.   The men would have to pass a background check for criminal records and violence towards women.

2.   On the ladies side I would stick to two or three major metropolitan cities and their surrounding areas, say 2 to 3 hours travel by train. I know this might rule out some great ladies but I feel it the advantages would outweigh the negatives.

A.   I would have several categories such as age ranges. I would have not much more than 12 to 20 ladies in 4 to 6 age categories. Quality not quantity. I would try to have no more than 150/200 ladies total.
B.   I would charge the ladies a modest fee to apply to the agency. If someone is serious a small fee will not discourage them but it would get rid of the scammers and the “Internet Juliet’s.”
C.   The ladies would have an interview with a councilor also, for all the same reasons as the men.
D.   I would interview as many as possible, again for all the same reasons as the men. It would give me a feel for who they are.
E.   I would have someone like Elena P. do a background check for
F.   After the first meeting and if it was looking good between a couple I may make subtle (or not so subtle, as in bribery) inroads to the ladies friends as to her true intentions. If a small bribe brought out that she had confided to a friend or co-worker she was after a green card then the money and effort would have been well worth it. None of this would translate to the male client, it would not be his choice nor at his discretion. It would be part of my endeavors to maintain a reputation of protecting my clients.
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Re: A Serious Question
« Reply #35 on: May 26, 2009, 09:59:34 PM »
One of the more interesting things here is how some people think of the business plan and others think of the product from an emotional level.

Pick and choose carefully among the advice offered and consider the source carefully. PM, Skype or email if you care to chat or discuss

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Re: A Serious Question
« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2009, 01:33:04 AM »
F.   After the first meeting and if it was looking good between a couple I may make subtle (or not so subtle, as in bribery) inroads to the ladies friends as to her true intentions. If a small bribe brought out that she had confided to a friend or co-worker she was after a green card then the money and effort would have been well worth it. None of this would translate to the male client, it would not be his choice nor at his discretion. It would be part of my endeavors to maintain a reputation of protecting my clients.

that would be silly if you act on such info, so the jealous co-worker or friend who is stuck in a bad marriage can badmouth your name and get money for it, double satisfaction?

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Re: A Serious Question
« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2009, 02:17:09 AM »
After giving it some more thought here is how I would run an FSUW marriage agency...

1.   I would charge a fairly steep price for personalized service to the male clients.

Are there lots of very rich people looking for a MOB?   

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Re: A Serious Question
« Reply #38 on: May 27, 2009, 12:37:57 PM »
ooops, there are many rich men looking.  You will find in Kiev celebrities and professional athletes from USA who have gone through agencies..  Owners of 100 million plus revenue businesses you can see their photos in agencies who have married (for example the starter of golden corral or some buffet restaurant like that married a girl in Kiev and now owns a lot of property in Carribean were they live).  Guys who think making a million dollars a year is going to put you on the top of the money list will have a bruised ego quickly in Kiev. 

JR, I know EM offered a special service for 15,000 usd.  I remember they were only taking less then 10 men per year.  Not sure if they do this anymore or if anyone remembers the details.  I believe 50% of the money was returned if not married. 

Delphania in Kiev used to do special individual tours before they went the sex tourist way about a year ago.  I met one man who paid an owner of a Kiev model agency (not marriage agency) about $200,000 usd to find him a wife which he did.  Actually once  I was in Luganks for business and people  I was with took me over to the local model agency for lunch.  Women were to young for me being between 16 and 25 but there were about 20 of them all over or table. None of them knew English.

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Re: A Serious Question
« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2009, 03:48:44 PM »
that would be silly if you act on such info, so the jealous co-worker or friend who is stuck in a bad marriage can badmouth your name and get money for it, double satisfaction?

That is a possibility Aloe. However the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. You would have to look at everything as a whole, not just take one particular item and treat it as the only piece of the puzzle. For instance: if in the interview process it is determined that the lady is genuine and sincere but the "friend or co-worker" seems bitter and angry towards the lady in question then you would have to set her statements aside. But, on the other hand if the two supported each other then you'd have to tend to belive what you are being told.
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Re: A Serious Question
« Reply #40 on: May 28, 2009, 02:14:39 AM »
That is a possibility Aloe. However the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. You would have to look at everything as a whole, not just take one particular item and treat it as the only piece of the puzzle. For instance: if in the interview process it is determined that the lady is genuine and sincere but the "friend or co-worker" seems bitter and angry towards the lady in question then you would have to set her statements aside. But, on the other hand if the two supported each other then you'd have to tend to belive what you are being told.
bitter or angry? on the opposite they will tell you with a smile a "secret" they made up

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Re: A Serious Question
« Reply #41 on: May 28, 2009, 03:07:56 AM »
ooops, there are many rich men looking.  You will find in Kiev celebrities and professional athletes from USA who have gone through agencies..  Owners of 100 million plus revenue businesses you can see their photos in agencies who have married (for example the starter of golden corral or some buffet restaurant like that married a girl in Kiev and now owns a lot of property in Carribean were they live).  Guys who think making a million dollars a year is going to put you on the top of the money list will have a bruised ego quickly in Kiev. 


I'd think there is something very strange with those millionaires if they can't find a girl right there right now ... 

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Re: A Serious Question
« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2009, 04:59:06 PM »
Rich men can and do 'buy' women from their own locale. But a foreign woman brings a certain mystique and exotic appeal absent from the locals. Think of James Bond and his ladies :)
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