She came here on our first meeting

[Wraith]

Y'all jess bin conditioned to them bigarse ol' mamas in toweling dresses and flipp flopps mowin' down everfing in their path through the Walmart isles.

I/O

[Misha]

Y'all jess bin conditioned to them bigarse ol' mamas in toweling dresses and flipp flopps mowin' down everfing in their path through the Walmart isles.

  Again, tastes are subjective. I, for one, prefer a woman closer to 90-60-90 than 60-60-60  :evil: And just to be precise, I am using measurements in centimeters and not inches 

[mies]

The fact that I said  that most Russian women are good mothers etc. and I don't trust this one  is proving that she is suspicious. I am repeating again: there are bad women in any country. My husband is AM but he has the same bad feeling about her, so it is not about being RW in this case. I am very caring personality and I am saying like if James was my brother or close friend.

You have 2 choice. You can go and meet some others RW and I am almost sure you will meet one, look at her eyes and you will know right away you want to kiss her and  be mother of your children. She may not speak good English or have an American visa but you will notice the difference.
Second way, you will continue with this one. Who knows, may be she is tired from her "shopping business" and is ready for commitment.  I would strongly advice go to her city next time, make sure she doesn't have a husband, let her introduce you to her parents, friends and relatives. Some people like to play Russian roulette and still alive.

Why dont' you just say honestly that you envy her?  
A pair of jeans and shoes and you call this a shopping trip?? You should see me on my weekend shopping stroll ending with 5 pair of italian shoes for me, several new pans, another set of professional japanese knives for our kitchen, a new cute blender for our bar, and half dozen of sweaters and jeans for my husband and some shoes for him (if he will be tired enough not to resist me)....  
and you call this poor girl suspicious? you are just envious - typical for russian women

Just for your record - people who are used to travel often - normally do not take huge luggage with them. It is rather inconvenient to be carrying a 29" luggage bag just for a week trip. Chances are the bag will be lost, and you will be already back home (wherever this home is) while the company you had a flight with will be still figuring your "compact bag"'s whereabouts.

As for James - based on my observations - when man is very interested in the woman - this man is happy to see her even while she is shopping. If man is not much interested (and OP said he wasn't initially interested) - he will be complaining of "her endless shopping" even though this shopping was a mere pair of jeans and shoes for which woman paid herself. 

[mies]

Again, tastes are subjective. I, for one, prefer a woman closer to 90-60-90 than 60-60-60  :evil: And just to be precise, I am using measurements in centimeters and not inches  

 90-60-90 would be voluptuous if the woman is short. 5'5" or less

[Ooooops]

90-60-90 would be voluptuous if the woman is short. 5'5" or less

I was just about to say that.   

[Aloe]

Haha! Well, however you slice it, the recipe worked! Your husband is indeed married!    Okay, new approach... next time I'm gonna serious plant one on her at the airport and use the "virtual kisses" excuse. Can't argue with success! 

hahahahaha, sure you can do it if you are hawt as hell like my husband! any less hot guy would have never landed 1 on sight on me 

[Misha]

90-60-90 would be voluptuous if the woman is short. 5'5" or less

I believe my wife is 5'4" or 5'5" I ain't complaining  :evil:

[JR]

I was just gonna write about it.   It looks like guys think that they know women better than women  know themselves.   

"It's a woman's perogative to change her mind." A man wrote that. Every man on Earth agrees to that. All women are still confused by this.....

Therefore: men DO know women better than women know themselves

And yes, this is just a joke!

[Daveman]

hahahahaha, sure you can do it if you are hawt as hell like my husband! any less hot guy would have never landed 1 on sight on me 

Well of course I'm hawt as hell... completely irresistible...       I look very young for my age too...   

God bless the ridiculous vanity of FSU ladies when it comes to wearing their glasses. 

90-60-90 would be voluptuous if the woman is short. 5'5" or less

From Passionate Perkies to Voluptuous Vipers -- It's all good if proportional.   I'm pretty happy if I find one not constructed primarily of latex, isn't a limb of the family tree, not genetically related to any animal that baaaaas, and at least mostly has a pulse! :-)   

[mies]

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2gM7ijqIrU[/youtube]
sorry - could not resist it here you have sunglasses

[JR]

I can relate as I share this preference. Women that are too skinny are a big turnoff for me. They can have the most beautiful face, the nicest eyes, and whatever else, but I will not be physically attracted to such a woman. It has nothing to do with the woman, just the way that I am wired. Time and circumstance will never change this for me, and I suspect James might be similar to me in this respect.

You've never been in the military have you? Way back when I was in Basic Training for eleven weeks I couldn't believe how UGLY the women were. I mean they were UGLY. Do you hear me? They were so ugly it hurt to look at them. I thought "Does the Army go out and find pigs that walk backwards?" All the other guys I talked to said pretty much the same thing too. Towards the end of Basic we were all talking about how hot they were!
The point is this: I've been to Houston and the women there tend to be big. So it's no wonder that James is used to and finds attractive woman with a little meat on the bones.
But he likes her. He likes being with her. The physical attraction will come. There is a difference between not being used to a certain body type and being repulsed by it.
What's so wrong with liking someone for who they are and building on that? Most of the time women are complaining: "He only wants me for my body."
Do I think James should see some other women? Absolutely!
Do I think James should see where this may go? Absolutely!

[Misha]

The physical attraction will come.

That was not my experience in 8 years of marriage to my ex. Looking back, I realize that I was not being fair to her, and I should not have gotten married the first time until I found a woman that was perfect (or as close to perfect as possible) for me. In my humble opinion, there are many fish in the sea, and it is better not settle. It is not a question of loving a woman just for her body, but rather to recognize that a marriage involves passion (which requires attraction) as well as the other stuff (trust, shared interest and values, an intellectual and emotional connections,...).   

[OlgaH]

The physical attraction will come.

Do you think a months of fast food will be enough?  

[JR]

Do you think a months of fast food will be enough?  

Nightly pizza might do it

But seriously, they like each other. In another thread Gator was talking about how great it is to have a friend. I think the attraction would come....and so would the weight!

[Misha]

I think the attraction would come....

And if it doesn't? Why not find a woman where there is both attraction and friendship?

[Daveman]

Well, they did love hanging at restaurants   that'll fatten her up rather quickly.

But, James seems to have vanished. I think she ate him... that probably put a little weight on her.  

So, since he hasn't returned, I don't mind playing in his thread.

Aloe, I was going to tell you this little story but I got caught up in goofing around.  With the very first lady I went to meet, we had a couple of months of talking on the phone prior to our visit and talked about a wide variety of subjects.  Well, one day we had a conversation about kissing and different kisses.. well, I tried to explain to her something we call an "Eskimo" kiss, where you very GENTLY brush your noses together as if you are both shaking your head "No", but it's very very soft, barely touching.  Well, it didn't happen at the airport (though we did have excellent chemistry from the first time our eyes met.. really good), but later that first evening at my flat, she walked up to me with this big silly grin on her face, leaned in, and I thought she was about to plant a kiss on me... so of course I leaned in to meet her... and then she SMACKED her nose against mine... I mean just about knocked my nose completely off my face.. well that brought out my southern drawl big time with a romantic "gawd DAHyum", while she simultaneously grabbed her nose and screamed with an equally tender "OY!!" ... my eyes began to water like crazy and I went into about a 10 minute sneezing fit (what a stud, eh?).  We did manage to get it right on the second attempt.   That's actually a true story. My first attempted "kiss" with an FSUW was disastrous ..

Luckily the rest of the visit went much better but for some reason I haven't really had the desire to have the "Eskimo" kiss conversation again.  

[mies]

You've never been in the military have you? Way back when I was in Basic Training for eleven weeks I couldn't believe how UGLY the women were. I mean they were UGLY. Do you hear me? They were so ugly it hurt to look at them. I thought "Does the Army go out and find pigs that walk backwards?" All the other guys I talked to said pretty much the same thing too. Towards the end of Basic we were all talking about how hot they were!
The point is this: I've been to Houston and the women there tend to be big. So it's no wonder that James is used to and finds attractive woman with a little meat on the bones.
But he likes her. He likes being with her. The physical attraction will come. There is a difference between not being used to a certain body type and being repulsed by it.
What's so wrong with liking someone for who they are and building on that? Most of the time women are complaining: "He only wants me for my body."
Do I think James should see some other women? Absolutely!
Do I think James should see where this may go? Absolutely!

I agree completely.

also, don't mix love and lust. If there is physical attraction - it does not mean there is automatically love. And physical attraction may come with time. It may also go with time. When there is no love - physical attraction may go away quite soon.
My husband in terms of looks is the opposite of the "type" I always liked. I always liked skinny/slim guys. And dated only super-slim guys. My husband is 190lbs of pure muscles - super fit. Men i was friends with before meeting my husband all were around 120-130lbs, and same height as my husband. I would not lie and say that I did not feel physical attraction for my husband from 1st moment i saw him. I find him extremely attractive. But he is totally out of the normal range of what i used to consider (and still do) attractive for other people. I like my husband because he is very strong and I feel protected and safe with him.
Applying same logic to the Jame's situation - he might develop attraction to slim/skinny woman because she looks more vulnerable than "meatier" women, and needs to be protected/taken care of.     

[Sculpto]

And physical attraction may come with time.      

No one ever had a friend of the opposite sex they were not originally attracted to but later found irresistible??

[mies]

well, I tried to explain to her something we call an "Eskimo" kiss,...
My first attempted "kiss" with an FSUW was disastrous ..

 this is very funny story it is even funnier for me than it is for you Daveman, because books of James Fenimore Cooper and Jack London were/are extremely popular in FSU, and there are some movies (not very recent though) based on their books. Also - there are many other authors-ethnographers describing the ritual of gentle nose-kissing among various indigenous tribes. The "Eskimo" kiss is well known among my friends back in Ukraine. Not all of them practice it, but they know what is it and the technique ;-) This is cute that your girl did not know it Or maybe she knew what is it, but she was nervous and missed/miscalculated the angle and strength ) which is even more cute

[mies]

No one ever had a friend of the opposite sex they were not originally attracted to but later found irresistible??

i did

[Misha]

And physical attraction may come with time.

Applying same logic to the Jame's situation - he might develop attraction to slim/skinny woman because she looks more vulnerable than "meatier" women, and needs to be protected/taken care of.     

Those are a lot of mays and mights. Again, my point is simple: why would you want to be with someone that is not the complete package in the hopes that you may come to be attracted to her and that she might one day be attracted to you? It would make much more sense, IMHO, to look for a woman who is attracted to you and a wonderful partner and a woman that you are attracted to as a woman.

Having learned my lesson, I decided that I would not marry until I knew that it was a woman that I would be happy with as a wife (including attraction) and made sure that she would be satisfied with me as a man (including attraction). I considered that it was not worth the risk of being with someone based on mays and mights. If others want to do this, they are free as they please, but they had better be ready to accept the fact that the mays and the mights may not come to fruit.

[Misha]

No one ever had a friend of the opposite sex they were not originally attracted to but later found irresistible??

Yes, but I wager that under normal circumstances people don't marry friends in the hopes that they become irresistible  This is the usual scenario: friends become irresistible and THEN they enter into a relationship, and if they never become irresistible, then the simply stay friends. Why would you want to force something that is not there? There are enough train wrecks as it is.

[Sculpto]

Yes, but I wager that under normal circumstances people don't marry friends in the hopes that they become irresistible  This is the usual scenario: friends become irresistible and THEN they enter into a relationship, and if they never become irresistible, then the simply stay friends. Why would you want to force something that is not there? There are enough train wrecks as it is.

at the end of his trip he felt something stirring..

some people say the most attractive part of the opposite sex is their mind..

[Misha]

some people say the most attractive part of the opposite sex is their mind..

Which is why, I am certain, that the brilliant yet not very attractive women in both the West and the FSU get all the dates  :evil:

[mies]

Those are a lot of mays and mights. Again, my point is simple: why would you want to be with someone that is not the complete package in the hopes that you may come to be attracted to her and that she might one day be attracted to you? It would make much more sense, IMHO, to look for a woman who is attracted to you and a wonderful partner and a woman that you are attracted to as a woman.

Having learned my lesson, I decided that I would not marry until I knew that it was a woman that I would be happy with as a wife (including attraction) and made sure that she would be satisfied with me as a man (including attraction). I considered that it was not worth the risk of being with someone based on mays and mights. If others want to do this, they are free as they please, but they had better be ready to accept the fact that the mays and the mights may not come to fruit.

Misha, I am sorry, but you missed the key message of my post. I wrote that feeling of emotional and personal comfort in my opinion is no less important ground for relationship than lust without feeling of emotional comfort.
I do not suggest that James should marry this woman.