Why I want to marry a younger woman...

[Misha]

A Russian man reading this would smile.  They know and can tell you how to bear the weight of horns    

LOL! I like these  :evil:

[Taz]

I think this link directly addresses why there are so many young(er) RW available.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31544292/ns/health-addictions/

[Shadow]

I think this link directly addresses why there are so many young(er) RW available.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31544292/ns/health-addictions/

There is one nitpick with this research.
The increase in alcohol consumption shows the official figure after the prohibitons wee lifted. Those who know Russins under the prohibition will know that the unofficial alcohol consumption decreased dramatically in the same period.
It would be near impossible to get the correct figures, but I sincerely doubt that the real consumption of alcohol doubled.

[OlgaH]

I think this link directly addresses why there are so many young(er) RW available.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31544292/ns/health-addictions/

Taz, when they say Russians it also includes some part of female population.

[AramisLux]

groovlstk,

you and i both know that this thread doesn't contain the first example of your very absurd, wholly presumptuous, stupid, illogical, insulting, prejudiced replies to a post of mine. when i read the first of your very absurd, wholly presumptuous, stupid, illogical, insulting, prejudiced replies to a post of mine, i decided to not respond to it. i guess i decided to 'walk away' from your reply because, at the time, it seemed to me that you were much more in need of sympathy and a good psychiatrist. but now you seem to have decided to make a pattern out of doing 'what you do'. so i am going to respond.

any objective reader of YOUR bile would have to conclude that you must know all about my motivations, my powers of perception, my ego, my reasons for having used hrb, what kind of people i related to there, things i wanted to 'hear' from girls at hrb, etc etc. can you just admit that, in reality, you know virtually nothing about me? you know nothing about my motivations, you know virtually nothing about who i related to at hrb, and you know nothing about 'what i want to hear from' girls at hrb. you really know nothing on this subject, do you? And yet you make all manner of statements suggesting you know everything about it. of course, i don't really expect to get any admission from you.

do you know anything about the hundreds of emails that i never wanted to read because they were lewd or too 'R' rated? do you know anything about the 'beautiful' women that i told i would not write to because they obviously were not 'real', that they couldn't keep their stories consistent? do you know whom i chose to relate to at hrb and why? again, you know nothing. you have no evidence whatever of me seeking out 'what i want to hear' at hrb. there can't be any evidence of something that never happened.

for the benefit of anyone else reading this (in my estimation, groovlstk will never be reasonable about this subject), i will be happy to provide something of an illustration. the attached is one photo of someone i got to know at hrb quite well. she sent me lots of really interesting, helpful letters. she told me lots of things about her town, her university, her classes, classes she had completed, what Ukraine is like, and things she likes to do with her family. all of it gave me very good insights into the culture of Ukraine. she never asked me for anything and the only flattering thing she ever said to me was that she thought i could be a good professor at her university (her university was one of our favorite topics). she is extremely intelligent, and she was always a very good ambassador for Ukraine and all of Ukraine could be proud of her. people like her make hrb worth using. so i hope that this will illustrate to reasonable people who are willing to look at the objective facts, that not everyone that happens to use hrb is some kind of pervert or dupe. and not everyone whom you might meet at hrb is a prostitute. don't buy into groovlstk’s prejudices. clearly, he is a guy who trades in prejudiced, stereotypical insults like it is still the nineteenth century.

than again, maybe groovsvlk still believes that everyone at hrb is a prostitute. that is how he writes about hrb, and he likes to suggest that i defend prostitutes. do you want to try to suggest, grooovslvk, that the woman in the attached photo is a prostitute? are you willing to make that statement? are you going to try to tell us that this photo has been photo shopped? are you going to suggest that she doesn't exist at hrb and that her letters were ghost written by someone else? are you going to suggest that her letters were actually written by some man? am i just defending a prostitute now, groovlstk?

if you had any balls at all, you would be holding your head low in shame and apologizing to me. but i know you are way too disturbed and too emotionally unbalanced to actually do anything like that (from your padded cell at the state hospital chained to a steel bed frame with a football helmet on your shrunken head).

it amazes me how you can suggest, without any irony whatsoever, that i am spitting bile here. most of your posts that i have read are bile and worse.

and the only thing here that is chickensh$t and foolish is your very absurd, wholly presumptuous, stupid, illogical, insulting, prejudiced posts. you are the definition of chickensh$t.

[AramisLux]

Gator:

First of all, I am not here trying to share observations about rw-uw. Unlike some people, I do try to reserve judgment when discussing things I know I have little knowledge of.

Do seasoned rwd members somehow become non-judgmental? I don’t see much evidence of this.

What parallels do you think are silly? Maybe I can explain.

I don’t know what you mean with reference to Lily. Care to elaborate?

you know that it was not very long ago when i mentioned that calling someone a prostitute here was a little over the top. then you explained that sometimes people exaggerate in order to make their point. this i can very much understand.

what i had to say about Ooooops behavior (my comments did not focus so much on the substance of her posts) could be viewed in exactly the same light. yet i get criticized for it. but it is ok. i understand what is going on here. it's quite clear to me. in fact, i think even stevie wonder could see it. there is clearly a double standard here. if someone wants to write a completely absurd, presumptuous, unfounded, prejudiced insult about hrb or someone who may have used hrb, most participants here will practically pat that person on the back for doing it. just look at groovlsk's behavior in this thread (which no one but me is willing to criticize); but if i exaggerate somewhat regarding Ooooops serious lack of etiquette, posters here will try to excoriate me. and groovlsvk wants to try to misrepresent completely what i wrote. it's really pathetic.

next time you explain to someone that exaggeration is sometimes used here to make a point clearly, be sure you add this universal rejoinder: "please be sure to insult through exaggeration those who are not here to defend themselves or have no one to defend them; of course, if you exaggerate 'for effect' comments regarding the behavior of someone we like and who can defend themselves but won't, you will be roundly condemned for it. And then we will compound the insult by accusing you of lacking sensitivity. put simply: we have no sense of fairness here, and we deliberately choose to not concern ourselves with it".

i thought Ooooops made parts of this thread really aggravating to read. she made Taz explain over and over things she could have read and thought through carefully on her own. i don't believe for one second that her lack of etiquette made this thread in any way a better thread. from my perspective, that is just bs.

i am really kinda surprised Taz continued to suffer through her 'questions'.

[Sculpto]

Aramis..

Calm down man..

now.. about that girl.. how do you know it was in fact her typing and writing letters?  Even when you could see her in chat how do you know? 

See, here is the thing.. when I went over there the scammers made one big mistake.. they took me to the agency on a sunday when none of the girls were there.. guess what i found sitting on the desk at one of the computers?  A really detailed script written in English.  I was there with the interpretor and asked her about.. her face turned bright red and she grabbed it from me and never said a word.  Later on that evening after having met three girls with this terp.. she confessed a lot of the BS that goes on. 

I am sorry you want to believe in that girl.. but I would put a considerable amount of money on it that if you went over there and met her she would not know much about you.

BTW.. I talked to her too.  I talked to hundreds of them.. the really good scammers on there are just like her.. very nice.. very polite.. never ask for gifts.. but guess what.. they get them anyway.

[AramisLux]

Sculpto:

i certainly don't doubt anything you say about your own experience. i am sure it is all true (what you saw in person).

i have never tried to suggest that i KNOW absolutely. but her letters were very informative and helpful. if i found out that she didn't actually write the letters i received, i would not be at all surprised, and i wouldn't necessarily feel in any way cheated. the letters were very well written and very informative. she was very good about responding to things i wanted to know about, and she was always consistent with her facts. nothing at all unusual about how she related to me via letters.

she didn't seem to be there for 'the gifts' or the 'money'. but of course that could be all a part of their scam. i will admit that.

but i am moving on from hrb; it was interesting for a time. now, i do want to get some distance between myself and all those things that are dishonest about the site.

[Sculpto]

Thats good Aramis.. the thing is.. they terps keep notes.. if a different terp is writing for the girl they will review whats already been written.. they are really pros

[Vaughn]

don't buy into groovlstk’s prejudices. clearly, he is a guy who trades in prejudiced, stereotypical insults like it is still the nineteenth century....if you had any balls at all, you would be holding your head low in shame and apologizing to me. but i know you are way too disturbed and too emotionally unbalanced to actually do anything like that (from your padded cell at the state hospital chained to a steel bed frame with a football helmet on your shrunken head).

 most of your posts that i have read are bile and worse.

and the only thing here that is chickensh$t and foolish is your very absurd, wholly presumptuous, stupid, illogical, insulting, prejudiced posts. you are the definition of chickensh$t.

AramisLux, you arrived here last January thanking groov and others for the warm welcome, and immediately launched into
the "Yeah - I know that" rhetoric. And OK, you're not a 21 year old greenhorn, you've got relationship experience. But in many
if not all of your 60+ posts it seems like you never came here to learn but to impose your beliefs - which is fine - but to take
such issue with hard comments to the point of stooping to the above "bile" - and fully knowing groov's firsthand experience,
knowledge and actual time on FSU ground - your discourse lapses into hilarity. You might be better served trying to heed and
listen rather than cling to "gut feelings" developed in hrb communications. Now that you've decided after all to exit the hrb
fantasy world, it seems groov's judgement was not so far off the mark after all. In fact, after years of reading his helpful posts,
I've come to regard his opinions very highly. Think about it. Or don't.

Vaughn

[Gator]

Aramis,

I look forward to hearing the tune you sing AFTER you make your first trip to the FSU.

[Ooooops]

I'm surprised that you even dignify this kind of troll with an answer...    :evil:

[ECOCKS]

"... if i found out that she didn't actually write the letters i received, i would not be at all surprised, and i wouldn't necessarily feel in any way cheated."

Excuse me but I just cannot make sense of this part.

You seem to be stating that you simply don't care if Fat Yuri or some 60 year old pensioned English professor babushka has been writing these wonderful letters to you. Is that right?

[Sculpto]

Excuse me but I just cannot make sense of this part.

You seem to be stating that you simply don't care if Fat Yuri or some 60 year old pensioned English professor babushka has been writing these wonderful letters to you. Is that right?

In the case of the HRB affiliate I visited it was other hot girls that did the fake writing.. the ones that spoke English got the job.  The reason the terp spilled the beans to me was that the agency manager hadn't paid her in two months and she was pissed.  It took him 45 days to pay her what I paid him.. and of course he had demanded payment in advance.  I complained continuously to HRB CS about that issue to no avail.

[AramisLux]

ECOCKS:

because i was getting good, interesting information back based on lots of questions.

[ECOCKS]

OK, that's what I thought you were saying but I just couldn't believe it.

If you don't care about a scam that's your business and more power to you.

Enjoy.

[Shadow]

Sculpto:

i certainly don't doubt anything you say about your own experience. i am sure it is all true (what you saw in person).

i have never tried to suggest that i KNOW absolutely. but her letters were very informative and helpful. if i found out that she didn't actually write the letters i received, i would not be at all surprised, and i wouldn't necessarily feel in any way cheated. the letters were very well written and very informative. she was very good about responding to things i wanted to know about, and she was always consistent with her facts. nothing at all unusual about how she related to me via letters.

she didn't seem to be there for 'the gifts' or the 'money'. but of course that could be all a part of their scam. i will admit that.

but i am moving on from hrb; it was interesting for a time. now, i do want to get some distance between myself and all those things that are dishonest about the site.

The facts in Harry Potter are also consistent and informative. But I still hurt from trying to get on to the 9 3/4 platform.

[Sculpto]

Unless he had a friend telling him the truth about the scam agencies any information he thinks he got is questionable.  I really wish there was a way to get through to the men who are enabling sites like HRB and wake them up.. but.. its unlikely to happen and guys gt real brainwashed from the fake attention they receive. 


technical info below.. its really interesting.

http://www.quantcast.com/hotrussianbrides.com

[Gator]

ECOCKS:

because i was getting good, interesting information back based on lots of questions.

I think it was because your HRB "correspondent" was telling you what you want to hear. 

Related to this, you do not like when RWD posters tell you stuff that you do not want to hear.  It does not fulfill your dreams.
 

[Gator]

Unless he had a friend telling him the truth about the scam agencies any information he thinks he got is questionable.  I really wish there was a way to get through to the men who are enabling sites like HRB and wake them up.. but.. its unlikely to happen and guys gt real brainwashed from the fake attention they receive. 


technical info below.. its really interesting.

http://www.quantcast.com/hotrussianbrides.com

Interesting technical info.  Do I interpret correctly that the most frequent "service" site visited by men using HRB is lowermybills.com?

[Sculpto]

Interesting technical info.  Do I interpret correctly that the most frequent "service" site visited by men using HRB is lowermybills.com?

it means the average dude that goes to hrb is 2 times more likely to go to lowermybills than the average internet user.  They visit that site in the same frequency as they go to paypal. 

[JR]

because i was getting good, interesting information back based on lots of questions.

I think the best thing for you is to just get on a plane and go find out for yourself. Then you can put a feather in your cap and say "Been there, done that!"

Just hope you realize that most likely the "interesting imformation" wasn't even about the girl in the photo, it just came out of someone's imagination and was directed at what they thought it would take to keep you on the hook.

[Sculpto]

he isn't going to listen.  And I doubt he will ever get on a plane.

[Daveman]

Unless he had a friend telling him the truth about the scam agencies any information he thinks he got is questionable.  I really wish there was a way to get through to the men who are enabling sites like HRB and wake them up.. but.. its unlikely to happen and guys gt real brainwashed from the fake attention they receive. 


technical info below.. its really interesting.

http://www.quantcast.com/hotrussianbrides.com

Sculpto,

I must say that your efforts around here to expose the nature and modus operandi of these kind of sites is a great addition to the forum.  Of course many "guests" remain hidden, and if they become an active member would not admit to having been taken in by HRB...

I think you have already and will continue to help guys see the reality of the situation... you're not going to get a great deal of feedback... but I am sure your efforts are appreciated. At least by me.  Thanks.

[JR]

he isn't going to listen.  And I doubt he will ever get on a plane.

I think you're right on both counts.....and man I hate admitting that!