One woman's opinion of Elena's models

[BillyB]

Rambler,
  If you could, you may want to remove the link you put to the lady's profile in case EM feels she didn't do any wrong against their policies.

Some RW have become accustomed  to men paying for a date when they meet in a neutral place. You did discuss and initially agree to meet her in a neutral location. She did not initially ask you for money but you didn't offer either so she probably asked as it's the man's responsibility to pay.

My feelings are a man should pay for the date and it's rude for a woman to ask for money. At a minimum she was rude for asking for money and it may be against EM's policy for the ladies there to do that but you should have never agreed to a date that you aren't willing to pay for, in this case, meeting in Turkey.

[GoodOlBoy]

The OP stated that his female friend was disgusted by the old geezers who wrote her in spite of the fact she stated 40 as the maximum age she was looking for.

Speaking of Age differences.

Just curious....Does any member know of an AM who married a RW OLDER than himself?

There is a couple here in my condo building, he is 45 and she is 53 (and hot ), BUT...They are both Russian.


GOB

[Jooky]

Rambler, is that the woman you are planning to meet?

That same woman was only 28 when she wrote to me last summer. Must have been a rough year. 

She gave me her number and we chatted for about 10 dull and grueling minutes. She couldn't give a straight answer to the most basic questions, but she did manage to ask me to buy her a ticket to come to California. She wrote to me on Lucky Lovers as well, but she'd never heard of that site when I asked her about it. I had her same phone number saved in an email from there.

Looks like Elena's Models finally caught on to whatever she was up to (or someone complained).

Here's another example of questionable profiles you can find on Elena's. This woman also writes to men first and maintains a 100% EOI rate.

http://www.elenasmodels.com/index.php?ap=1542678
http://www.elenasmodels.com/index.php?ap=5619646

I think she's pretty hot. Too bad she can't decide whether she's 29 or 35, a doctor or a realtor. Now, she actually asked me to meet her in Moscow when I told her I was passing through there. I wonder which one I would have met, the doctor, the realtor or someone else.

[Misha]

Just curious....Does any member know of an AM who married a RW OLDER than himself?

I know one Canadian man (29 or 30) married to a woman three years older (33) and another young man married to a somewhat older woman with similar ages (plus or minus a few). Both went to Russia, both spent time there. Both a bit passive, so methinks they were the one who were caught and not the ones doing the catching  :evil:

[rambler]

Hi All
Well I will be happy to remove the link but I can't see a modify button right now  - I'll find it. The link is actually from our very own website on the welcome page so I was suggesting that RWD admin change it here too if possible.

No Elena is not the person I was discussing in the $1250 thread.

Let's just say the proposed meeting location, duration and terms were a subject of some discussion but not agreed after I got her expenses claim in advance! I am not going on her terms or to her location. Also her profile has changed and it reveals a very different character to the one I replied to...
I appreciate the comments though, debate is revealing.
BTW the easiest way to see if stolen photos are being used is to ask for a picture holding up 3 fingers next to their face. If you get back a man's picture holding up one finger you saved yourself a bunch of money and heartache! 

Rambler

[Lily]

I know one Canadian man (29 or 30) married to a woman three years older (33) and another young man married to a somewhat older woman with similar ages (plus or minus a few). Both went to Russia, both spent time there. Both a bit passive, so methinks they were the one who were caught and not the ones doing the catching  :evil:

After I turned 27, all my boyfriends were born several years later than myself. And they were very much doing the catching, all alpha males and hunters who did not understand 'no'. I did not met them online, therefore no one knew the year of birth. The d.o.b was never the issue. Only if and when the guy took my picture ID, they learned it, but it was already late  

But I see the online dating is different, as the year of birth comes first in profile, even earlier than the face does

[Gator]

I wonder which one I would have met, the doctor, the realtor or someone else.

If I were you, I would play "doctor" with her rather than look for a flat. :-)

When I first wrote RW in 2002, an amazing number of medical doctors were listed with agencies.  I contacted many of them.  Most were no longer practicing medicine because they could not earn enough money to support themselves under the pay scales for public practice.  Presumably, more doctors were educated during Soviet times than were needed in capitalistic Russia.  When I did another WMVM search in 2006, the number of medical doctors with agencies had declined.

Too bad she can't decide whether she's 29 or 35

Of all the women I met, only one was dishonest about her age.  What surprised me the most - a vast majority were truthful about their body weight.  These are not AW!!!

Many, however, used photos 2-4 years old.

[Lonewing]

profit and loss is black and white..

This was an old reply between the blacks and whites but....

I do believe this notion has been disproved by the economics geniuses around the globe.

Also see "Dick and Jane" for another description of a classic pyramid scheme that turns losses into profits.  In short, the parent companies gives huge loans to subsidiary companies in the form of revenues, thus allowing those companies to all report huge profits and thus the main company to also report huge profits, even though the Profits are actually just loans and thus losses!!

[SANDRO43]

In short, the parent companies gives huge loans to subsidiary companies in the form of revenues, thus allowing those companies to all report huge profits and thus the main company to also report huge profits, even though the Profits are actually just loans and thus losses!!

I'm puzzled, what bookkeeping trick do those subsidiaries use to post received loans as 'revenues' in their Profit & Loss statements ?

[docetae]

Speaking of Age differences.

Just curious....Does any member know of an AM who married a RW OLDER than himself?

There is a couple here in my condo building, he is 45 and she is 53 (and hot ), BUT...They are both Russian.


GOB

i am not american but my wife is older than me (5 months exactly)

[Lonewing]

I'm puzzled, what bookkeeping trick do those subsidiaries use to post received loans as 'revenues' in their Profit & Loss statements ?

I'd have to watch the movie again to get the whole part down, but in short I interpreted it as an accounting trick.  That is, your accountants simply call it something else.  As a result, by the time the rest of the world catchs up your lead executives have already made off with a whole lotta other people's moeny.  Kind of like how Bernie Madeoff with a whole lotta money!

The whole thing brings to mind the Milo Minderbender operations in Catch-22 where the internal operations reduce the price of an egg from 7 cents to 3.5 cents by simply laundering it through the system.

I realize this last situation may be farce or fiction, but I recognize that if some one was smart enough to set up the scam and get people to pay in, none be the wiser, particularly those who try to understand that system.

The short of it is, if something seems too good to be true, it probably is - and if something is too complicated for the general person to understand, something fishy is probably at hand.  Hence, perhaps you can see why I'm perplexed by the real cost and contribution of the economic stimulus packages, wary of the healthcare legislation, and completley puzzled over talk that this recession is over and we're coming around the bend.  The sad part is, how do you know who is being truthful when even those things we traditionally assume to be black and white have been muddled into gray as well?  Such dangers in making assumptions about anything anymore...

[neo]

confirming I am one of the "sexual maniacs" of which she speaks

On a more serious note almost every girl I have had a serious relationship mentioned she got about 7 letters of lewd content with blokes having their bo jangles out for every 1 serious letter. men, by the whole are a bunch of dirty animals.

Which pleases me in some respects because by comparison it makes my very normal conduct appear the height of chivalry and it impresses them no end.

 

[myrddin]

On a more serious note almost every girl I have had a serious relationship mentioned she got about 7 letters of lewd content with blokes having their bo jangles out for every 1 serious letter. men, by the whole are a bunch of dirty animals.

Which pleases me in some respects because by comparison it makes my very normal conduct appear the height of chivalry and it impresses them no end.

   At least some good can come of it!

One thing the internet seems to do for many is to lower (or eliminate) the normal barriers of "civil" conduct people once had when dealing with each other face to face.  There are a lot of jerks and idiots online, but sometimes I think this is reported in an attempt to reflect badly on WM seeking FSUW.  A lot of attractive AW online have similar experiences.

[Faux Pas]

confirming I am one of the "sexual maniacs" of which she speaks

On a more serious note almost every girl I have had a serious relationship mentioned she got about 7 letters of lewd content with blokes having their bo jangles out for every 1 serious letter. men, by the whole are a bunch of dirty animals.

Which pleases me in some respects because by comparison it makes my very normal conduct appear the height of chivalry and it impresses them no end.

 

The dogs are a useful tool in helping the ladies identify a serious man.