What would a U.S.-Russia war look like?

[lordtiberius]

Putin's smart huh? His economy was supposed to grow 2.8% now it is stagnating and may contract. 

Ukraine's economy will contract 7% because it is under the threat of war. Russia is stagnating and may contract not because of these pin prick sanctions but because investors know their money is not secure in Putinussia. 

The verdict is upin the air if Putin is smart or in control, but he is exposed.

[Maxx2]

Putin's smart huh? His economy was supposed to grow 2.8% now it is stagnating and may contract. 

Ukraine's economy will contract 7% because it is under the threat of war. Russia is stagnating and may contract not because of these pin prick sanctions but because investors know their money is not secure in Putinussia. 

The verdict is upin the air if Putin is smart or in control, but he is exposed.

Not fighting with you LT. Just adding in.


Contrast the real economic numbers with government distorted date and the US economy has been in decline since 2000 when offshoring started to take hold. This is why the average median income continues to drop and why 806,000 people last month gave up looking for a job. The government says these people are not unemployed because they decided to not work and just kick back and take it easy.

Have you ever wondered why the CPI, GDP and employment numbers run counter to your personal and business experiences? The problem lies in biased and often-manipulated government reporting.

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This can mean that the latest quarter can be reported with a positive annualized growth rate, while the actual annual rate of change is negative.  Such was the case for the 3rd quarter of 2009.

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[lordtiberius]

Just cause we disagree Max doesn't mean I dislike you or don't agree with you on other issues such as the LYING about how awesome our economy is.

As a Euromaidan supporter, I am ashamed that the hashtag diplomats have hung Ukraine out to dry.  Where is the IMF? US or EU?

Selfies don't stop bullets.  Psaki, Nuland, Pyatt, Kerry, Clinton, Power, Obama, they are horrible.  They make Baby Bush look good, I would root for Putin if he wasn't Hitler.  If I was Russian I would probably be in Donetsk right now.

[BillyB]

Putin's smart huh? His economy was supposed to grow 2.8% now it is stagnating and may contract. 

Pain will be shared. Russia's economy isn't the only one hurting based off current events. EU's economy will take a hit too and so will America's. We're already paying more at the pump and Russia is profiting from the higher fossil fuel prices.

[Maxx2]

Just cause we disagree Max doesn't mean I dislike you or don't agree with you on other issues such as the LYING about how awesome our economy is.

Ditto

[lordtiberius]

We don't trade very much with Russia or Ukraine.  So this crap about how sanctions are hurting us too is another Barack excuse. Besides if he gave a $h!t about Americans paying more for everything normally called inflation when we had a free media, the bastard would approve the Keystone pipeline and not ask for new regulations on the oil and gas companies.

(Full disclosure: I work for an oil & gas company.)

If you want to know what Putler will do next, read Mendy's blog:
http://russianreport.wordpress.com/2014/05/14/what-will-happen-next-in-ukraine/

5 reasons why the Putinistas are smoking locoweed:

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/top-5-myths-about-us-meddling-in-ukraine/500208.html

The real reason the Biden suddenly cares about Ukraine:
http://canaryusa.com/ukrainian-oil-and-gas-wars/2/

Hint, its the 4th largest shale oil reserve in Europe.

[lordtiberius]

One alibi, I have always maintained that for BHO Ukraine is not about Ukraine, its about Syria.  Ukraine splits Russia from the Assad Chemical deal.  If the deal is dead, BHO er I mean Al Qaeda fakes another attack Obama can use USAF to help al Qaeda establish a Caliphate (Erdogan is going to be pissed if its not him.)

Too bad Saddam is not hear to smoke this peace pipe.

[Dewed]

FYI

Youtube URLs start with HTTPS   the S is necessary

[Maxx2]

FYI

Youtube URLs start with HTTPS   the S is necessary

I don't know…...I have to remove the S to post a full screen youtube. Sandro taught me that. I''ll test that

[Dewed]

Uh, Sandro would be wrong 

All Youtube URLs end with an S..  HyperTextTransportProtocolSecure.  It's just like HTTP but encrypted, the same method is used for online banking or online credit card purchases. Youtube introduced using https across the board when they linked all their services like Gmail, G+ and Youtube to one user account to improve security.

just realized I said "starts with an S" before.  Uh.. yeah, END with an S  :/

BUT, it seems SMF software isn't aware of this. So Sandro is still wrong, but so is the forum software

[SANDRO43]

Uh, Sandro would be wrong  All Youtube URLs end with an S..

They DON'T when I access it...maybe it's browser- or country-dependent ?

Youtube introduced using https across the board when they linked all their services like Gmail, G+ and Youtube to one user account to improve security...BUT, it seems SMF software isn't aware of this. So Sandro is still wrong, but so is the forum software

So YOU are wrong , as evidenced by Maxx2's post:

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<param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/m1vndEG1Za4&fs=1&start="></param>
I don't know SMF's part in all this: is it configured to refuse inline attachments from secure sites?

[BC]

Doesn't look like https here.....

See the attachment

[lordtiberius]

Edward Lucas (not an American BTW): Obama wants Poland to delay missile defense shield.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardminiter/2014/05/15/why-putin-is-worries-about-poland-and-raytheon-but-not-obama/

Pretty much destroys the idea that US is behind this Nazi coup in Kiev ...

[Dewed]

sorry to muddy the topic but hey, what's a little more mud?!?!

Now you shouldn't need to remove the S    I've done a bit of tinkering to remove it automatically.

[GQBlues]

sorry to muddy the topic but hey, what's a little more mud?!?!

Now you shouldn't need to remove the S    I've done a bit of tinkering to remove it automatically.

I have never seen the 's' to bother with removal. Just as Sandro mentioned, it may have to do with what type of browser you're using.

What I have noticed is the *=share* tag being added to the link lately in many of the vids. Sometimes they even add 'feature' which preempt the actual video with whatever commercial they need to insert. For example...

'http:youtube.%$#@!5245dh2feature=Share'

Removing that word seem to skip it altogether and goes directly to the video.

Any thoughts on this Dewed?

[lordtiberius]

Rebellion localized to Yanukovych's home province who according to some posers on this forum is the only legitimate President of Ukraine.


http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21602289-despite-all-fighting-country-could-just-hold-together-after-may-25th-battle?fsrc=scn/tw_ec/into_battle

[GQBlues]

US Congressman grilling Nuland regarding the US new pending puppet colony about monies being finance for this regime change and ensuing 'non-repayment, matters concerning *legitimate elections*, neo-nazism, and mothers with flowers...LOL

Hunter Biden 2016!!!

[lordtiberius]

Youtube link inop

Tell us again how Yanukovych is President

[LiveFromUkraine]

US Congressman grilling Nuland regarding the US new pending puppet colony about monies being finance for this regime change and ensuing 'non-repayment, matters concerning *legitimate elections*, neo-nazism, and mothers with flowers...LOL

The minute Rohrbacker said Yanukovych was legitimately elected I knew this had to be Russian propaganda.

[SANDRO43]

Now you shouldn't need to remove the S    I've done a bit of tinkering to remove it automatically.

So I was RIGHT, after all ?

[Dewed]

I'm still unclear on why some of us apparently require the S to see the vid, but.. I sorted out a way for the forum software to show the video regardless.. SO we were both wrong .. and RIGHT ! and now the forum software just doesn't care either way 

[BillyB]

East Ukrainian citizens teaming up with local police have surprisingly pushed back pro Russians and taken back their cities. Good sign civil war may not happen.


http://www.upi.com/top_news/world-news/2014/05/16/thousands-of-miners-and-steelworkers-seize-mariupol-ukraine-from-separatists/7761400252244/


http://www.businessinsider.com/a-key-group-of-ukraine-workers-pushed-rebels-away-in-the-east-2014-5


Last post, this post and a few future posts I'll be attaching some of my favorite Putin Action Comics. Got to be logged on to see the attachment.

[lordtiberius]

Why hasn't Putin invaded BillyB? Is it because he is such a nice guy?

[lordtiberius]

Russian war games in Belarus reveal scenarios that include invading the Baltic's and nuking Warsaw.  Putin's Proton-m's failure to launch is a temporary relief.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/16/world/europe/russia-rocket-accident/

[Faux Pas]

Why hasn't Putin invaded BillyB? Is it because he is such a nice guy?

IMHO, he has invaded. Putin is playing chess and winning. He has Crimea doesn't he? Suppose Crimea, unrest and ineffectual government in Ukraine is all he wanted? Checkmate