Her mailing address?

[Aloe]

So your real concerns that she is for real...May be a private investigator could assist you?
In case her emails are regular, could you ask her straight why she cannot accept personal calls at work or snail mail at home?

Rubicon, in case she is not real, knooper should not invest his time and emotions talking to a ghost. Scammers would want their victim to fall for the 'ghost' so that later they could ask money with a higher probability that the victim will not refuse because of his emotional investments in her. Therefore it is in his interests to discover scam in case it takes place here.

I read a topic on antidate yesterday. A girl wasn't giving her address to a guy she knew for 6 months, cuz there are tons of crazies out there. So he hired "an investigator", who called her and said she had a flower delivery from this guy, so she gave him the address. The "investigator" then came over and asked to see her passport lol, she refused, so he went and talked to all her neighbors who she doesn't communicate with, and then stalked her, and relayed to the guy who hired him that she has a boyfriend, while in fact the guy who comes to pick her up is her tennis partner. The "PI" never mentioned anything to the guy who hired him that she goes out with tennis equipment to meet that guy   So the girl called her guy who hired the PI and got their website out of him, funny on the website they say "the girl will never know she is being investigated" Lol. They just plain stalk the girls and then relay incorrect and incomplete + misinterpreted information. What does a girl have to do to deserve such horrific punishment?

[Aloe]

The thing with those "PI's" is they are only interested in your money and nothing else. It is basically the same fat yuri's who scam men, maybe even the same organization, but these ones just half ass their jobs and stalk girls (best case), worst case what's stopping them from making it all up and never leaving their apartment? It's not like it is a legal business.
Oh did i mention, the "PI' i told about above is now offering the guy who hired him to "put this girl in jail", for some extra money of course. Very funny. The girl actually hired a lawyer to sue this "company" for intrusion into her private life

[Muzh]

What does a girl have to do to deserve such horrific punishment?

Excellent comment, Aloe.

Knooper, you are dealing with is an evl spirit. No, wait. She is a vampire, yes, that's it. A vampire. Get your holy water and garlic, she may show up later at night.

The above is as plausible as what have been said of her so far.

My advice to you Knooper. Drop her. You already muddied the water and you are not going to drink it. However, if you keep muddying the waters, better get a taste for that because that's all you will drink.

Good Luck, you are going to need it.

P.S. Did I tell you EVERY RW is a scammer? (That should last a few weeks.)

[Nat]

Well, I personally think there's nothing weird when a girl, who lives in a strange town, doesn't give her real address to people she meets online. The story with her working phone is a bit more weird. Maybe she doesn't have a mobile or maybe incoming calls aren't free of charge in her network... Anyway, if you don't feel comfortable, why not ask her all these questions directly?

[viking]

I knew a scammer once who had 3 addresses. First one was hers and the other two were "fronts" that she and other girls used to "entertain" men. Flowers were delivered to the fake addresses and since they were called by the delivery service prior to delivery, it gave them time to scoot over and accept delivery. It was only when I happened by chance to run across another man corresponding the the same woman and we compared notes that we both realized we were being duped. All kinds of strange things out there.

[dbneeley]

It is very different to say that you must get to know someone a little better before giving the personal contact info, and claiming you have neither mail address or cell phone.

There is relatively little chance in the second situation that the lady is genuine. The first would be both more honest and quite understandable given the number of true creeps on the Internet.

David

[LAman]

Knooper, I hope you are writing to many other girls.
 I don't see the scam here. It is not like she is getting xtra money for letters. Curious how old this girl is.
 I have met some girls that were hesitent to give addresses/ numbers due to some strange circumstances that have involved men previously. Eventually, I always got the info.

Thanks for story lily. I know of an actress which lost work in a model agency due to the antics of a man who 'was' writing her....too much info can be bad.

[JR]

All these stories and advice, all good but....

Just tell her whats buggin you, let her respond then make a decision. Don't play games and don't beat around the bush.

[ML]

Well, I personally think there's nothing weird when a girl, who lives in a strange town, doesn't give her real address to people she meets online. The story with her working phone is a bit more weird. Maybe she doesn't have a mobile or maybe incoming calls aren't free of charge in her network... Anyway, if you don't feel comfortable, why not ask her all these questions directly?

I will go along with what Nat wrote here in general.

Further:  The gal may live with her parents or other relatives, and she doesn't yet want them to know about a foreign guy (or maybe any guy.)  Letters coming to the mailbox and phone calls to the landline will let the secret out.

Sometimes (often?) neighbors snoop into mailboxes and will see letters from foreign countries and then a huge gossip grapevine starts which can make life uncomfortable for the gal and even her family.

Phone calls to an office number are also dicey as there are rules against such, in most any country of the world.

Phone calls to a mobile are a little harder to discount.  But, consider that she might think she will somehow be charged for such.  And where does she answer such calls.  Maybe she will most always be at home or at office when such arrives, and again she doesn't want her family and co-workers to know about a 'foreign affair.'

Note: I am not trying  to completely wipe away any red flags, but there are a lot of possibilities out there, even if the situations are not very usual.

In one instance, I have known a particular FSU gal for nearly 10 years.  We are not romantically involved.  I have been to her apartment many times and have slept over on several occasions.  When she and I arrive and depart together, she asks me to move along the halls and stairs quickly to minimize being observed by neighbors.  She just wants to minimize the gossip that would get started by neighbors.   And this is in a very large city.  Toss into the mix a smaller city and . . . .   oh my!!!

[knooper]

Well, I persistence pays off. When I told her, I would not be able to continue correspondence with her, she gave me her friends phone number in her next e-mail! I talked to her for an hour. She was very nervous at first. She explained to me, everything I asked her. Turns out, she is that poor. She lives with a woman who will not allow her to give her address to men. Too many creeps, she said. I believe her. At first, she seemed very paranoid/nervous, after about 10 minutes, she settled down. Her English was much better than I had anticipated! She says, she can use her friends phone once a week to talk to me. Thanks everyone for you helpful input. Oh, by the way she is 31. Never married.