Scammer

[Bruno]

The scammer is very good ... she can build a trust relation with the man and at the last moment ask money... not always directly but slowly...

The first victim was a American man. The second myself... she have not receive money from me...

One other victim from Italia in November 2004... these man have send me her international passport... And the last victim, in January, a man from finland... he stay in contact with her and game :-)

Why i am sure she is a scam... when i have become suspicious, i have track the e-mail and this lead to Yoshar-ola and not to Cheboksary... I have control with her GSM compagny but these compagny don't work in Cheboksary ( but they work in Yoshar-ola )... and at last, with the copy of passport from the italian man... it is a false passport...

You can check it at http://www.love-from-russia.be/passport_scam.jpg

Now, i have begin post her data on some anti-scam site...

But Guy's, you can yourself check the origin of e-mail, don't be lazy and read the header... and when you receive a copy from passport, control it, some little detail can show that it is a false.

More scammer not listed in anti-scam site come soon below ... i need to search my personal archive ...

[Bruno]

Now a little more about scammer... yes, they exist but don't be parano... today, i have find some woman listed like scammer ... but for me, they was not a real scammer...

Marina, ukraine, Kremenchug listed because the following letter :

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Hello Dear XXXXX! Thank you very much for your e-mail. I was very glad to receive it. I'm very sorry but my today's e-mail will be short. I just want you to know that if there will be a delay in my answer it's not because I have changed my mind about us, it's because now I have big problems. I have these problems at work, in fact they have reduced our wages. Our school is not a private one and the government does what it wants referring to absence of economical stability in our country. But the explanation doesn't make feel any better. The wages they paid was hardly enough for me to pay high flat rent and now I just don't know what to do. I'm sorry I bother you with all this, I understand that this is my problem it's just so bad in my heart I just had to share this. I want you to know that our writing is very important for me and I will do everything possible for it not to stop though I'm in a despair. I want with all my soul our relationship to go on and lead to happy future. I hope we will not lose each other and will overcome all the difficulties. I hope to hear from you. Send you my best wishes, Sincerely, Marina

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The guys have listed her in scam site because she need money... ok, she need money but she ask nothing... she only explain that letter will be more short and not so often... because of shortage of money

Before put a lady in black list, be sure that she is a real scammer...

[Felice]

Right no scamletter where is she listed?

[Bruno]

Right no scamletter where is she listed?

Felice, you can see her at http://rwbl.com/view.php?id=88 ... it is the black list from freepersonals.ru

Now, about the first woman, the link to the passport is not more working, a new one below... the false up, a real below for compare

[TheArrow]

Long live Adobe Photoshop!

[Fiorella]

About photo is not correct - now it can be color OR black and white. Anyway, do you see it ethical to post here real passport with number and so on of REAL woman? She has right to file complaint to the court.

[Bruno]

About photo is not correct - now it can be color OR black and white. Anyway, do you see it ethical to post here real passport with number and so on of REAL woman? She has right to file complaint to the court.

Yes, the new model from passport accept color photo but they are a little different, a 3D logo replace the stamp and you have a special bande at the left and top side of the photo...

Now, about the real passport, the woman know it, you can find it on my site, she is one of my customer... people who have submit a ads on my site and who wish the high level of certification allow me to publish copy of passport... and the rule are the same for man and woman... so if she have allow me to publish it, why she will complaint to the court ???

 

[Fiorella]

If she allow you to publish her passport EVERYWHERE it is ok.

[ConnerVT]

I must agree with Fiorella on this one.

[Bruno]

If she allow you to publish her passport EVERYWHERE it is ok.

She know the montage i have make and she have agree several month ago... it is not publish everywhere but only on my site... if she ask me to remove it, i delete it on my site and he will dissappear from here... i have not upload the photo, it is only a link...

Because it seem to be a problem for some people, i have remove the real passport and keep only the false... no more problem for someone, except the scammer... if you wish compare with real passport, visit my site

 

[Fiorella]

If she allow you to publish her passport EVERYWHERE it is ok.

She know the montage i have make and she have agree several month ago... it is not publish everywhere but only on my site... if she ask me to remove it, i delete it on my site and he will dissappear from here... i have not upload the photo, it is only a link...

Because it seem to be a problem for some people, i have remove the real passport and keep only the false... no more problem for someone, except the scammer... if you wish compare with real passport, visit my site

 
[/quote]
Good idea

By the way, I have couple of single friends - may be on your site are some nice single guys?

[Admin]

By the way, I have couple of single friends - may be on your site are some nice single guys?

Fiorella,

Have you considered asking your friends if they would like to post their information HERE, on this board - and maybe participate in a few of the threads?

I am not anxious to get into the 'agency' business, but if a few single and looking RW were to decide to post on the board, I would imagine they would find quite a bit of interest.

Just a thought.

- Dan

[lawman65]

There are some  single men here, that is why we are here. I will give it a chance to find some nice lady here. It is hard out there in cyberspace looking for the right one. Anyone have a nice girlfriend I can meet? Lawman

[Elen]

There is a lot guys here who did already two or more trips to U/R. Each of them met several girls who for some reasons didn't fit with their interests (not necessarily those reasons were the result of "bad" qualities of girls)

So why don't invite those girls here? At least those girls really look for somebody abroad , you did see them in reality, you know they are real, you may do a conclusion about lack of their "scammer's" talants. (in first approximation) 

Well?? Is anybody ready to "share"?

[Bruce]

Elen, luckily the reason why there is a "scammer section," is because the scammers still are a distinct minority once you are communicating with real people.  Scammer websites and agencies with slick scamming female clients unfortunately seem more and more numerous.  The guys that get scammed usually are scammed prior to going to the FSU.  So, the way for a guy to greatly diminsh his chance of getting scammed is to just go and write girls he knows are legitimate later, or if he prefers to correspond prior to meeting, to just deal with agencies every guy knows are legitimate (not many). 

Guys could post the pictures and profiles of girls they met, know are legitimate but just are not right for whatever reason for them.  Since guys tastes, wants, desires etc. in women are so varied posting legitimate girls in distinct places within the FSU would be a good idea - but that information is again second hand dated information.  Also, guys just do not want to be bothered.  Your idea does have merit and if scamming continues may be another viable solution to the problem. 

Elen, did you ever think of finding legitimate girls yourself and posting their information for guys?  You could get into the business yourself!!!

[Elen]

Elen, did you ever think of finding legitimate girls yourself and posting their information for guys?  You could get into the business yourself!!!

Firstly.

Are you sure you would want to deal with women introduced to you by no one but Elen? 

Secondary.

 I can't recomend you women who I don't know personal and I don't want  to be a matchmaker for my own girl friends. There are too many chances things would go in wrong direction (again I'm not about scammers (that I would be abble to garantie you) but about "broken women's hearts":?) So I just don't want to be the first the only one who would be blamed for "bad" end of love story. And besides as I told already I have friends only about 40 years old But according to posts on this board it seems they are just from "dinasaur's" era for you:D

 

[jb]

My wife is 48 y.o., I'm sure she will be glad to know you consider her to be a dinasaur.

[Elen]

It's not ME it YOU guys who're looking for younger women in Russia.

Should we start one more poll about YOURS age requirement for brides from Russia?

[ConnerVT]

My wife is 48 y.o., I'm sure she will be glad to know you consider her to be a dinasaur.

You cradle robbing old geezer! 

My wife is 6 1/2 years younger than me.  My mother was 10 1/2 years younger than my father.  They both were American (of German descent), one from Queens, the other from Brooklyn.

If the statistics show that there is a greater age difference between AM/RW couples, it is probably skewed by the decisions of the RW involved.  AFter all, it IS the woman who ultimately decides things related to relationships...

[Elen]

If the statistics show that there is a greater age difference between AM/RW couples, it is probably skewed by the decisions of the RW involved

 No.  It is the result of disproportion in numbers of males and women involved in this business and a lack of young males on "market" (not older than 35 at least)  . If things would be like one bride defiles through "crowd" of fiances the age difference would not be more than 5-10 years.

  So it is more likely  "На безрыбье и рак - рыба":P (Kidding It's only saying )

PS (My mom is married in second time on man who is 7 years younger than she:P. My husband is the same year as I myself)

[Fiorella]

By the way, I have couple of single friends - may be on your site are some nice single guys?

Fiorella,

Have you considered asking your friends if they would like to post their information HERE, on this board - and maybe participate in a few of the threads?

I am not anxious to get into the 'agency' business, but if a few single and looking RW were to decide to post on the board, I would imagine they would find quite a bit of interest.

Just a thought.

- Dan[/quote]Dan, it could be good but it is not easy to chat here on English when someone's knowlege is not very good. And here are mostly american men... Why don't you promote the board more?

[Admin]

Dan, it could be good but it is not easy to chat here on English when someone's knowlege is not very good. And here are mostly american men... Why don't you promote the board more?

Yes, I agree that the predominant use of English makes the board a bit intimidating for someone who lacks a strong ability in English. Still, I think there may be people here who would be willing to help with translation - maybe by doing a computer translation and then modifying the resulting translation where necessary. In other words, the girls could post in Russian - and I bet there are plenty of guys that would make the effort to try to understand what they are saying.

What do you suggest in terms of promotion?

- Dan