Age Disparity: Once more into the breach :)

[Shadow]

I don't want to hijack this thread, just put my newbie two bhat wort in. I am 39, and it may be easier to believe (from what I have read at RWD) if I say that I am the definition of ugly. I weight 500lbs and haven't seen my d#$% in 10 years. Though, I must have a different take on this.
 The first or second time I meet a women from (insert country here) I admit that the 1 to 10 scoring system comes into play. After a while though it changes. I will call it an A,B,C,D,F system. Dependant on a hundred factors including how she treats me, how we relate, her intelligence, etc.
 Though I do get a kick out of "walking through the door with a 9 on my arm."

RW require you to be better looking as a monkey. Which was pretty hard for me. 

[bigdeg]

 Daveman...the girl I am going to see is 28, I am 39. I have allready talked with her sister-in-law on skype. I know that N thinks i'm a catch. No I really aren't 500 lbs., I've weighed 195 ever since high school.

[JR]

Uh-oh, 28 to 39 is eleven years....people are gonna start screaming ! ! !

[GoodOlBoy]

One of the things that would be helpful to us newbies in these discussions of age differences is what the age difference is between the WM who post here is and their wives...

GOB 52 and my beautiful wife is 41 1/2.

When we met....47 and 36 1/2.

wedding pic:
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?ind=gallery&op=foto_show&ida=502


GOB

[tfcrew]

  At 47, I'd still like to have children ...a second look is remote so I've expanded my search overseas.

 what the age difference is between the WM who post here is and their wives, fiance's, girl friends, etc. 

I'm 6 years older.

God has blessed me with no children.
At 50 YO, the child would be 10 and dad then 60?
That's not dad..that's grandpa.
However, an Asian bride usually has children later in life than other countries.
Good luck in any case...............................

Karl

[Boethius]

At 50 YO, the child would be 10 and dad then 60?
That's not dad..that's grandpa.

I suppose it depends on the father.  My father was always a "Type A" personality - usually no more than 5 hours sleep, always "go, go, go", worked hard, played hard.  He is 65 now, and retired.  He does a lot with my boys, because he didn't have sons, and also was working all the time.  But, there are some things he can't do that their father can - chase a soccer ball for hours, powerskate, or snowboard.

[JR]

It's better to have a good "old" father than a shitty young one or an absent one of any age.

[Jooky]

An ad on my Facebook page had me cracking up today. Here's what it says:

It's a known fact. Hot chicks dig older guys.

That's from match.com, so they should know. There you have it folks! (And you don't even have to go to Russia)

[jamesbond]

"we talk a lot about how we should behave when we are with women, but often its overlooked is how are they treating us in return?
"

  One thing I always practice --- Don't SHORT yourself !!! My experience at the beginning of this year  made me realize it again !

[Sculpto]

you always practice or rather.. you wish you always practice?

too many contradictions.. no wonder your DR fantasy turned out so rotten.  What girl in her right mind would tolerate such behavior?

[2tallbill]

Uh-oh, 28 to 39 is eleven years....people are gonna start screaming ! ! !

My basic opinion is that if you are normal looking and have the time, money
and energy to pursue this, take 10 years off your age. Don't take any more
unless, you are very handsome, very rich or are very ____________something
else that makes women attracted to you.

[Trenchcoat]

My basic opinion is that if you are normal looking and have the time, money
and energy to pursue this, take 10 years off your age. Don't take any more
unless, you are very handsome, very rich or are very ____________something
else that makes women attracted to you.

BillyB had a Seventeen year old he ended up marrying when he was in his mid forties, roughly. Wealthy? Quite wealthy it seemed. He hasn't posted here in a long while which is a shame as he had a lot of experience and I think common sense.

I don't really believe in creating artificial age brackets to contain yourself in. What if you were mid forties so you said to yourself, 'I'll go max 10 years younger, so if I'm 45 I'll date as young as 35'. Only not realising that you could be jumping over a girl who would be perfect for you in your search who is 33 years old.

People come in all shapes and sizes, personalities, issues, etc.

She could be a young girl in her late teens or twenties with anxiety issues for example and preferring a much older guy to lead the way as they feel more comfortable with them. It could be all sorts. She may prefer an older guy who is steady in his job, has his own house, a bit of money behind him, even a big step up in wealth from the local guys without necessarily wanting a millionaire. Of course in any case she may just me into the guy in addition to anything else that makes the relationship work.

I agree on the idea not to be an old guy chasing eye candy without realising that some girls are just going to be messing around even in the FSU. It looks ridiculous to many in the West but there can be a big age difference and it work without it necessarily being a gold digger scenario.

So I would say just keep batting the balls until you get one that works and don't worry too much about age differences. You'll find out by experience what girls don't rate you for the age gap and/or anything else and which girls rate you regardless. It's really down to how often the girl wants to interact with you.

[Daveman]

My guess is that BillyB would admit in a heart beat that his situation is far more the exception than the rule. It also took him, IIRC, a number of years of searching to find her.  So yeah, if you were to put in the time - doing exactly what he did - you could get the same result. 

Ten years is an excellent rule of thumb.  Though not all I think most men in more extreme age-gap relationships (say 20+ years) are much more likely to age out at some point with some sooner and some later regardless of the good intentions of the woman going into it.

[ML]

BillyB had a Seventeen year old he ended up marrying when he was in his mid forties, roughly. Wealthy? Quite wealthy it seemed. He hasn't posted here in a long while which is a shame as he had a lot of experience and I think common sense.

BillyB was not 'quite wealthy.'
He usually had a good income from his excavation business; he had some huge equipment.
That work may be subject to substantial ups and downs, not sure.

There is an opinion here that when married guys stop posting after several years, that might mean the marriage failed.
But . . . who knows ? !

[ML]

. . . age out at some point with some sooner and some later regardless of the good intentions of the woman going into it.

Holy sheet . . . age out !

But Turboguy can probably tell us about this.

[Trenchcoat]

BillyB was not 'quite wealthy.'
He usually had a good income from his excavation business; he had some huge equipment.
That work may be subject to substantial ups and downs, not sure.

There is an opinion here that when married guys stop posting after several years, that might mean the marriage failed.
But . . . who knows ? !

That thought crossed my mind as well. He was always talking of having kids with the girl but I don't think ever did. Whether he has done now who knows, if they are still together. My thoughts are also that they may not be, they do say that where the guy is a lot older than the girl and there are no kids then a lot of those marriages fail a lot of the time. It depends if course in whether the woman wants kids and whether with that man.

That it had gone a while without having kids and BillyB kept suggesting they were at some point got me wondering. If kids are wanted and it's not happening then it is usually for a reason. I think that her being so much younger than him can be a big liability and although I am not privy to their private lives my thoughts were that on paper there were potentially some ominous signs. She seemed more intent on her career in nursing as I understand it and seemed in no hurry to have kids despite BillyB's advancing years, I would guess early to mid fifties at least I would assume.

So unless the girl herself has got issues or is majorly into the guy does she want to stick with him? She I guess is/was roughly around her early to mid twenties with a guy in his early to mid fifties, approximately. A guy heading towards retirement while she is still in the prime of her life. She would doubtless have options of guys around her age. She would also have her Green Card even probably Citizenship. She could divorce him and take him for a good amount of money I assume after the years she has been with him. I personally think he was there with his goolies wide open ripe for a good kicking with that one. It would be a shame as I think he had a generally good take on relationships and most stuff, had logical thinking and common sense.

I do think though that he might have gone for someone too young and was too willing to let it hang out there, potentially complacent. If it were me and I was wanting a long term relationship then to my mind that comes with kids. If you're a guy who wants to have no strings attached relationship that's fine no kids needed but otherwise it's too easy for either party to walk off, years wasted on a relationship where one party wasn't committed. If it were me I would be saying to myself and the girl, look you wanted a long term commited relationship, we agreed to have kids, we got married now we either commit or we divorce and split up if she doesn't seem in any hurry. Otherwise the guy can be messed around for years. She said she wanted kids and the guy doesn't deserve to be messed around.

Too many people unfortunately waste other people's time in a relationship instead of telling them that something is not what they want and moving on.

Anyway, Iif that has happened I guess it goes to show that even with experienced members one false move and you can really mess things up.

[2tallbill]

I don't really believe in creating artificial age brackets to contain yourself in. What if you were mid forties so you said to yourself, 'I'll go max 10 years younger, so if I'm 45 I'll date as young as 35'. Only not realising that you could be jumping over a girl who would be perfect for you in your search who is 33 years old.

You are operating under the false impression that younger good girls would want someone
who is more than 10 years older. The older the girl the more likely she would overlook a
few negatives.

If you have any negatives. Like low social skills and you are 45 then you should only
date 37 and older. If you need to make a trip for only 4 days because you can't afford
to stay longer, then you only date 39 and older ............ and so on.

Your silly opinion is to pursue younger girls, because one of them might be perfect for
you. The part that you can't wrap your head around is that those younger girls are
far, far more likely to have dubious motives for not ignoring your pursuit. A good girl
who wants love and happiness, will ignore you. The bad, evil, devil woman will think oh
boy here is a loser/sucker that I can sink my claws into. The evil woman will reply to all
of the 15,20 (or more) years older than them. When they find one who lacks experience
and savvy, that's who they are really looking for.

Imagine a 20 something girl, in blighty with her nice little paid for house recently won in
the divorce because her ex-hubby put a baby inside her. How many kilometers ahead in the
race of life is she now? You can know for sure that there is a 20 something girl who is
out there right now returning letters to men far too old for her.

I hope devil girl never crosses paths with you.

[krimster2]

someday, someone will break you so badly...
that after that you will become unbreakable

similar to "that which does not kill you..." meme
suffering, builds character
yada yada

this is a "horse and buggy" website
for people afraid to go 15 mph in Model A Ford Automobiles

23 Skidoo!!!
Tippecannoe and Tyler To!

[Trenchcoat]

You are operating under the false impression that younger good girls would want someone
who is more than 10 years older. The older the girl the more likely she would overlook a
few negatives.

If you have any negatives. Like low social skills and you are 45 then you should only
date 37 and older. If you need to make a trip for only 4 days because you can't afford
to stay longer, then you only date 39 and older ............ and so on.

Your silly opinion is to pursue younger girls, because one of them might be perfect for
you. The part that you can't wrap your head around is that those younger girls are
far, far more likely to have dubious motives for not ignoring your pursuit. A good girl
who wants love and happiness, will ignore you. The bad, evil, devil woman will think oh
boy here is a loser/sucker that I can sink my claws into. The evil woman will reply to all
of the 15,20 (or more) years older than them. When they find one who lacks experience
and savvy, that's who they are really looking for.

Imagine a 20 something girl, in blighty with her nice little paid for house recently won in
the divorce because her ex-hubby put a baby inside her. How many kilometers ahead in the
race of life is she now? You can know for sure that there is a 20 something girl who is
out there right now returning letters to men far too old for her.

I hope devil girl never crosses paths with you.

I've already had one devil girl to compare, KG. I think both good and bad girls could go for an older guy. Yeah we've seen plenty of bad girls go for an older guy and the consequences. For me younger girls just work better with me I think particularly FSW that can be a bit forward as the age disparity balances that better I think. There can be good reasons a good girl prefers an older guy. I personally don't think that much more than 18 years is helpful as the guy is retiring off after a while, where the girl could be in the game for a second life depending on her situation.

Low social skills isn't always a problem, the girl might also not be the best socially. Plus with a foreign girl it often doesn't show up as much as the social communication level is often restricted a little even with a decent foreign English speaker. There's also the case that some people who are good socially don't like competition so they may prefer someone who isn't as social. In the main the world is full of different people, all sorts of combinations can happen. Sure, if you hit the dating sites after a hottie, 15, 20, etc years younger than you many probably most will just try to screw you for your money. But I wouldn't restrict my search too much on age because of it as you might find a good one who is right for you, you might even surprise yourself thinking it's the wrong way to go but find a girl just perfect (enough) for you. So I'm not saying chase younger girls that will likely turn up the bad ones but be open to younger girls in your search.

[Daveman]

Holy sheet . . . age out !

But Turboguy can probably tell us about this.

Regardless of the outcome, TG had an excellent run -- going solely by what he posted here. Their fifteen years beat the "first marriage" average of fourteen that someone mentioned somewhere among the forum pages.  He knew the risks going in and accepted those risks.  I would surmise that most of those large gap relationships will have the same eventuality (the woman not wishing to be a caregiver). There will obviously be exceptions depending on the individuals involved.

[krimster2]

 it's EVER SO MUCH FUN watching the hamsters try to run on a dysfunctional hamster wheel...
just like it's  fun to watch the little turtles struggling on their backs in the hot sun...

the air of "lack of fullfillment" is so thick here, it could be bottled and sold with some "French" label  in a small blue bottle
Eau Du Dissapoint, c'est magnifique!!!!
old women will have it on their dresser, they chug that sheet down HOLMES!!!!

but nothin
beats ganja dipped in melted opium
nothin...

under it's influence, I once spent nearly 30 minutes examining the curvature of Japanese Sake Bottles in a bustling Tokyo Super Market
they were the most beautiful bottles I EVER SAW

[Turboguy]

Regardless of the outcome, TG had an excellent run -- going solely by what he posted here. Their fifteen years beat the "first marriage" average.

If I had it to do over again and went into it knowing the outcome, I would do it again. 


The nice part is we are still friends and will help each other any way either of us can.  I see a lot of people who end up in a nasty divorce and come away almost hating each other. 

[krimster2]

this is where a BIG age difference can WORK in yur favor!!!
cuz if yur rich and old, and she's young
she's NOT gonna divorce ya
she's just gonna wait until ya DIE!!!

I'm here to "help" as well as make fun of ya'll
c'mon keep those funny stories coming

all time BEST
Billy's tale of a tryst at a cemetary being interrupted
a freakin classic
called "number 62" in the prison joke book now

anybody...

[2tallbill]

I've already had one devil girl to compare, KG.

HaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You __________ (word for ignorant idiot without being so mean). That girl left
you intact. She was not a devil girl. Good lord, she had a few red flags, you left
with your kidneys intact. You could have been suckered into an apartment, robbed,
beaten and left for dead, that's a devil girl experience. Watch the movie hostel then
report back.

You don't know what you don't know. That girl might be a semi-normal girl. I know
a guy who was jailed and in legal peril. I know total horror stories, yours had a
nonoptimal outcome, boo-hoo. I've met devil girls in the USA. I know a girl who
stabbed a guy with a broken beer bottle.

You still have a thing for KG. Devil girls are when you go to church to light a candle
because you got away.

[2tallbill]

this is where a BIG age difference can WORK in yur favor!!!
cuz if yur rich and old, and she's young
she's NOT gonna divorce ya
she's just gonna wait until ya DIE!!!

Anna Nichole Smith