Is stubborness a common trait amongst RW's?

[BrianW]

FIrst let me say, I hate to generalize. I have been going out with a 26 year old UW for two months now. She is very smart, sweet and cute. However, she is also as stubborn as a mule

But her worst trait is her self absorption. She is generous and kind but she talks about herself almost all the time. She hardly ever asks me about myself. I don't even think she knows what I do for a living. Is this common amongst RW's? Perhaps among the younger generations only? Thanks.

[JR]

Two strikes, one more and you're out!

Seriously, if she constantly talks about herself she is self-absorbed and you are nothing more than a piece of bling in her wardrobe. Move on!!!!!

Quack-Quack

[Daveman]

 

Can't wait to see the answers on this one   

[JR]

 She hardly ever asks me about myself. I don't even think she knows what I do for a living. 

Do you know why she doesn't ask you about yourself?

Let me explain:

She doesn't give a shit about you!

Is that plain enough?

Seriously, is it?

[Mars]

First, yes stubbornness is a prime trait of FSU women.  Dozens of guys have posted here about it over the years.  I think it is a close relative of their unwillingness to ever admit to being wrong.  Something was posted before about this being part of general FSU mentality that developed over the years due to the political and economic system or something like that.  So it is going to be a lost cause if you get hooked up with one of them who does this to the extreme.

Second, self absorption, I haven't really encountered it in the way that you describe.  In fact, as I think about it, hardly any of the women spontaneously talked much about themselves.  They would answer question, but not go on and on about themselves.  They mostly wanted to know about my life, my family, my work, etc.

But I don't think JR has it quite right in this case.  The OP said: "She is generous and kind."  That doesn't describe a woman who doesn't give a sheet about the man . . . if he meant she was generous and kind to him.

So on one account, you have found the typical FSU woman.  On the second count, doesn't sound typical to me.

But if she really is kind and generous to the OP, it may not be a deal breaker.  Isn't it possible that some people talk a lot about themselves when they are a little bit nervous in the beginning of a relationship.  Maybe easier to just blab on and on about something you know very well.

[JR]

 They mostly wanted to know about my life, my family, my work, etc.

BINGO! When a woman is "into" you she wants to know "about" you.....

[BrianW]

BINGO! When a woman is "into" you she wants to know "about" you.....

I don't think I'm totally being fair here. She has called me to see how I was doing. I've given her some small gifts and she's returned the favor. I have volunteered a ton of information about myself and perhaps that's why she doesn't ask as many questions She is an interesting character, she's the smartest girl I've ever met but in some ways is so naive and clueless......

She's hard to read. She's also ambitious and driven. It's funny when she is stubborn, because she is such a nice girl so it's an interesting combination.

[Shadow]

RW are not stubborn. I had a long discussion with Mrs Shadow and she would not accept that they are.  :evil:

[BrianW]

I can deal with the stuborness, but I'm not a fan of self centered people, it's a pet peeve of mine

Next time we go out I'm going to ask her what the deal is, tactfully of course

[SMS60]

Being self centered is not the same as being stubborn.

Dont ask her about it.

This is what dating and face time is for. If she has a personality you dont like, now is the time to eject. This pet peeve will only get worse as time goes by. If this  behaviour is troublesome ( it should be). Dont make excuses to justify it. Just move on to someone who actually cares about your life.

Good thing you only have 2 months invested. It could be alot worse.

[Rina_G]

Move on!!!!!

Lol JR - do you know some another acts exept MOVE ON?

[GoodOlBoy]

I have been going out with a 26 year old UW for two months now.

She has called me to see how I was doing.

Hey BrianW.

GOB is curious.......does this UW live here in the GoodOl' USA?

If so, (if you don't mind me asking) what state do you live in?


GOB

[Gator]

What you described is not stubborness.  It is the mentality of a spoiled "princess" who has not yet learned how to work a man.  

When you find the right woman, you will be hanging on to every word.  Talking with her will be fun, interesting, enlightening.....not a chore.

[Johnny2009]

This is quite simple, and the first answer to the OP said it all, "shes into herself more than she is into him"!!

And the question about RW  women are women, it doesn't matter if they are American, British or whatever, if shes only talking about herself, its not going to change and she will just get worse!

Gator's correct shes a "spoilt little princess", either you accept it or move on!

[Rina_G]

to BW
there are several reasons for this girls^
1. she has bad comunity skills (sorry we have no place to learn it)
2. she knows english not good
3. she don't like you
and just you can reply - what is it in really.
Points 1 and 2 maybe desided
third - never and in this case MOVE ON - lol
 

[Mars]

Being self centered is not the same as being stubborn.

I don't see the logic of this comment!
Where did the OP suggest he thought the two were the same?

[BrianW]

We live in D.C. She has been here for a couple of years. I do enjoy talking with her, it just seems her favorite subject is herself

[SMS60]

I don't see the logic of this comment!
Where did the OP suggest he thought the two were the same?

Mars pull your panties out of your crack and relax. Its for the OP to digest not you.

I feel the OP is trying to pass off the self centerness for stubborness and justify it because women are stubborn.

[ScottinCrimea]

I don't think I'm totally being fair here. She has called me to see how I was doing. I've given her some small gifts and she's returned the favor. I have volunteered a ton of information about myself and perhaps that's why she doesn't ask as many questions She is an interesting character, she's the smartest girl I've ever met but in some ways is so naive and clueless......

She's hard to read. She's also ambitious and driven. It's funny when she is stubborn, because she is such a nice girl so it's an interesting combination.

First thing, don't rationalize her poor behavior.  That's bad road to take.

Extreme stubbornness seems to be a very common trait among RW, to the point that it can be very amusing at times.  Don't expect that to change, but as long as you are sure you can deal with it, that's fine.

The self absorpton, on the other hand, is not an attractive or promising character trait.  She may outgrow it, but then again, she may not.

I'm just curious what it is you find attractive about someone who only likes to talk about herself.  At some point that has to get boring.

[JR]

I don't think I'm totally being fair here. She has called me to see how I was doing. I've given her some small gifts and she's returned the favor. I have volunteered a ton of information about myself and perhaps that's why she doesn't ask as many questions She is an interesting character, she's the smartest girl I've ever met but in some ways is so naive and clueless......

She's hard to read. She's also ambitious and driven. It's funny when she is stubborn, because she is such a nice girl so it's an interesting combination.

Stop making excuses for shitty behavior and don't start defending her. Your original post is closest to your heart. Now that we are scrutinizing her you want to justify the behavior. Either you lied about her in your first post or it really is how you feel she relates to you. Which is it? Don't smother shit with sugar and expect it to taste better, it doesn't. It's just candy-coated shit!

[JR]

Lol JR - do you know some another acts exept MOVE ON?

Yes, "Move in!"

How's that one?

[JR]

RW are not stubborn. I had a long discussion with Mrs Shadow and she would not accept that they are.  :evil: