RW/UW Age 50 to 55

[jimz10]

Hello,

[jimz10]

Hello,

Sorry, my keyboard went bonkers on the first message, so i will try to finish it.

Much has been said here and other places about 20 something age range ladies.  I would be interested in comments about meeting Russian/Ukranian ladies in the 50 to 55 age range.  I have heard some comments that these ladies "age faster" than American women due to the tougher life there?  I would assume the women to men ratio is higher in that age range than in younger age ranges?   Do women in this age range actively look to date, or have they just given up?

I am a young looking, and fit 55, can still wear pants that I bought 25 years ago (Is Jaymar polyester still in style?) and have already discussed my situation in other posts, so please don't ask.  I have a special interest in dancing, ballroom/latin/swing, and feel that a common interest like this would greatly benefit a relationship.  Lack of common interests was one of many issues in my first marriage.

[Turboguy]

Personally I don't think the age prematurely any more than AW do.   I never dated any RW in that age range but did meet a few just a little younger.   My own feelings are that there are some stunning RW in that age range and they haven't given up.

Proably some of the other 55 year old men on RWD could help you out and hook you up with thier MIL.   

[boaterguy]

In my experience,the ladies in that age range I have met,those who take care of themselves generally look at least 10 years younger.

My wife turned 49 today! The oldest anyone thought she was upon meeting was in her late thirties,most think she is under 35!

[boaterguy]

Proably some of the other 55 year old men on RWD could help you out and hook you up with thier MIL.   

I am sure there are quite a few that should be married to there MIL! 

[viking]

Just one example.

http://www.amazing-women.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi?id=am28444&p=1. Not too bad for 51?

And there are many many more. Yes, some look like my grandmother, but others, wow. Just do a little bit more searching.

[I/O]

Proably some of the other 55 year old men on RWD could help you out and hook you up with thier MIL.   

Now Turbo, tsk tsk, you'd be one of very few who'd be older than their MIL? My now MIL who is only 4 years older than me joked with me when I was courting her daughter that I should be marrying her rather than her daughter. I floored her when I suggeted I could do a discount for a family package.

Anyway, you might enjoy this.


As for the 55 question, there is many very classy RW in that general age group ready willing and able.

[Vaughn]

 I have a special interest in dancing, ballroom/latin/swing, and feel that a common interest like this would greatly benefit a relationship.  Lack of common interests was one of many issues in my first marriage.

We know of several RW/UW married to Westerners in this area - average age 56 or so - and stunning. The
fact that you're an avid dancer, well, watch out for the stampede.

[Mars]

Much has been said here and other places about 20 something age range ladies.  I would be interested in comments about meeting Russian/Ukrainian ladies in the 50 to 55 age range.  I have heard some comments that these ladies "age faster" than American women due to the tougher life there?  I would assume the women to men ratio is higher in that age range than in younger age ranges?   Do women in this age range actively look to date, or have they just given up?

First, yes in my view the FSUW do age faster than WW.  This is readily apparent from late 40s onward.  Yes, of course, many can tell you of someone they know who does not fit this bill, but on average it is true.

Second, it is going to be rare that you find a woman in this age bracket who has any English skills.  Many of them studied German in school, but few studied English.  Again, there will be exceptions but like looking for the needle in haystack.

Third, computer and internet skills will not be plentiful for women in this age group.

Fourth, many (most) of them have given up looking for a man.

Fifth, like women everywhere, their interest in sexual matters is in serious decline if not extinguished altogether.  Yes, of course, we hear of the exceptions, but they are far and few between.

For a time, use of hormone replacement drugs kept the sexual drive alive for WW in this age group.  But the well publicised study of the dangers involved cut the use dramatically for WW with the corresponding decrease and in most cases the elimination of sexual urges.  In FSU there was little use of hormone replacement drugs to begin with.

Sixth, because of the decreased sex drive, most women in this age group really do not have an overwhelming desire for a relationship with a man.  Sure, they will tell you otherwise, but when it comes down to serious choices between having a man and possibly giving up somethings like a career, seeing children and grandchildren often, caring for their own parents, etc., etc., the true desire for a man will come very far down the list.

These women would be very happy to have someone to go out to dance with once in a while and have a man around to do some home fix-up work, vacation with, etc., but on a day to day basis a man is really not a priority for them.

[Chicagoguy]

I think Mars has pretty well summed it up.

My wife is 53 and all the women I dated previously were over 50. Up to 56.

Here is where I agree and disagree.
1. They do age faster. As my one Russian woman friend [ raised in Russia but now American MD ] says " they had a tougher life". This will probably not apply to the younger women in current Russia. And the current 50+ women sure look better that their mothers !
2. Not as many will speak good English but I did find some who were very competent. Their choices were German, English and French when in lower school. But not many continued when in University. Like me with Latin. It was a different era.
3. I think their computer skills are comparable to American women of the same age.
4. I don't know about whether they have given up or not.
5. There certainly are exceptions !! But then again ALL women go through the same cycle.
6. Again, I don't think their is much difference between American women and Russian

But jimz, I think the common interests might be the toughest to find.

Good luck and give it a try. I found mine !

[SANDRO43]

Just one example. http://www.amazing-women.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi?id=am28444&p=1. Not too bad for 51?

I thought so, too, after receiving a letter from her at Army of Brides and looking at her profile. I met Irina personally in Milan in 2007 - where I think she was on a WMVM - and she had gained a lot of weight .

A few more details here: http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=4798.msg102949#msg102949.

In 2008 she may have lost some weight, and the effect showed on her face - no longer like the photos she had used (those where she wears blue jeans) , which according to her had been taken "just a couple of months" before we met .

[Mars]

Here is where I agree and disagree.

5. There certainly are exceptions !! But then again ALL women go through the same cycle.
6. Again, I don't think their is much difference between American women and Russian

In my post I said:

"Fifth, like women everywhere, . . . . "

[Gator]

Jimz,  you will be able to find plenty of attractive women in that age range from the thousands listed on the Internet 

JB's wife is in her 50s and very attractive, and a University professor. 


 

 

[Gator]

After giving Jim some serious advice, here are some lighter comments:

I heard from a RM that "RW past 40-45 age in dog years." 

For sure something happens because if you walk around the streets of the FSU you will see plenty of tall slender dyevs and plenty of short, stocky babushkas.  Where did they go?  Did they shrink in height as well as spread in breadth?

Let us compare with AW.  I have attended a few high school reunions over my long years.  At age 50, the pretty girls from high school were still pretty.  At age 60, I saw a BIG drop off.  And then I looked in the mirror!   :hairraising:

To life!

[tfcrew]

The retirement age  in Ukraine [and Russia i think] is 55.
They don't work the women to death as non-observers might think.
If a lady has a retirement income and owns property there are those considerations.
**I would add that if they had kids their children would [or should be] grown and on their own.

[Phil dAmore]

Age faster?  Possibly, but that shouldn't really be your biggest concern.  A good cosmetic surgeon and an unlimited budget can work wonders.

You should be more concerned over their habits.  Women who grew up during Soviet time are far more likely to have a pronounced case of  what I call 'all or nothing' syndrome.  That is, there is no room in their world views for any shades of gray.  Something is either good or bad, on or off, up or down, black or white.

They can also be stubborn beyond any reasonable point, but this has been well documented.

Additionally RW over 50 are, IME far less likely to be open to new ideas, especially ideas that challenge what they might have been taught in the Soviet schools. (Go ahead, tell them that Gagarin wasn't really the first man in space, see what it gets you!)  I have found that once an RW learns a way of doing something, that is IT.  There can be no other way, and to suggest that there may be alternatives is to invite an argument... and do they EVER love to argue.  It's like foreplay to them.

As an example:

When Nina and I first started dating she decided to cook dinner for me one night.  Being the gracious guest I accepted her offer of sausages and potatoes.   Watching Nina prepare the sausages I noticed how they went right into a pot of boiling water. I made no comment on this and let her go about preparing the meal.  Everything came out fine although the taste was not quite what I was expecting, it was good.

About a week later I decided to cook for Nina and make... you guessed it... sausages and potatoes.  This time however, I grilled them with onions and instead of boiling the potatoes I baked them.

This was the conversation that ensued:

Nina:  What are you doing?  (ALWAYS her favorite question!)

Me: Cooking dinner.

Nina: That's not the right way to cook sausage and potatoes.

Me: Nina, it's not about right and wrong, this is another way to cook them.  I'm sure that you will like them.

Nina: That's not the way I make them.

Me: I know that.  As I said, this is simply an alternative.

Nina:  You don't like the way I make sausage.

Me: ...  ( I had nothing at that point because I was trying to figure out how she arrived at that conclusion)

Side note:  She didn't speak to me for a week after that.

That was my first lesson in just how rigid some RW can be. YMMV.

[OlgaH]

Additionally RW over 50 are, IME far less likely to be open to new ideas, especially ideas that challenge what they might have been taught in the Soviet schools...

Oh, not my mother   Right after Soviet Union breakup she put her Communist ID on the table in her city administration with words "Basta! I don't pay the communist due any more!" And when she tries to cook something I feel sometimes... that I'm probably conservative about cooking    She always has been inventive soul.

[Gator]

Phil,
I shared your delightful story here.

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=10613.msg207376#msg207376

[Chicagoguy]

I like the "Old Wives Tales" of superstitions, health ideas, relationships, drinking. Really too many to list here.