Tashkent...

[BillyB]

she hasn't responded to my emails from a week ago which she said she would do, hasn't been on the dating site where I met her in over two weeks

 I am calling her at the agreed upon time

Start calling her at the un-agreed upon times. Sometimes the phone system works better during hours where there's less people using it.

If you do get a hold of her and things are smooth, tell her to get to the internet immediately if she does not hear your voice for two days straight. You have a pattern of calling her everyday. If the pattern is broke, she should be worried that something happened to you if she cared.

RussianWind, in this endeavor I think most men vanish not because they found a woman, but because they won't make the trip. Some statistics say only 5% of the men who write RW get on a plane.

[RussianWind]

RussianWind, in this endeavor I think most men vanish not because they found a woman, but because they won't make the trip.

Just on the contrary. They vanish because they make the trip... to another woman.

[GQBlues]

I know the phones in Uzbekistan can quit working for a while. The phones may ring but she may not hear the ringing on her end.

I was under the impression UZ is fairly high tech these days. Here's proof of that...

[Ludmila]

JR,

If this situation with her disappearance didn't take place, it would've been worthwhile  creating it.

You were ready to hit the road without any signs of dedication on her part.

In a similar case, she should've  been able to contact you somehow (  unless it becomes clear later it has been a force majeure sit-n, beyond her control), either call you herself, have her friend write you an email, just anything.

So, if later  she  surfaces, let her give you  her explanations. By bringing it up to her  she will know you care,  aren't superficial, you aren't indifferent to people being obliging, and that you were very upset that she didn't  find the way to contact you.

This episode must not be lost in the sense of building a relationship and working out mutually binding rules of,  at least,respect to each other.  And, undoubtedly, it WILL DEMONSTRATE HER MOTIVATION. Call it  homework, if you wish. 

There should be a number of cases  when both of you demonstrate motivation, when the situation isn't standard. Otherwise, you will be "stepping on the same rakes".

[JR]

BillyB: Start calling her at the un-agreed upon times.

Did that, good suggestion. She was at work and asked that I call her later. I confirmed what time I should call and did so within minutes of the predetermined time. No answer. Called twice more in the following half hour, no answer.

Ludmilla: If this situation with her disappearance didn't take place, it would've been worthwhile  creating it.

Agreed.

Ludmilla: So, if later  she  surfaces, let her give you  her explanations. By bringing it up to her  she will know you care,  aren't superficial, you aren't indifferent to people being obliging, and that you were very upset that she didn't  find the way to contact you.

She stated that she was very sick and thus could not answer my calls. Not sure I'm buying that but I'm trying to give benefit of the doubt. I told her I was beginning to worry and that I was glad she was feeling better. I agree that she could have found a way but really we are at the beginning of things, one email each way and a few brief phone calls.

Ludmilla: This episode must not be lost in the sense of building a relationship and working out mutually binding rules of,  at least,respect to each other.  And, undoubtedly, it WILL DEMONSTRATE HER MOTIVATION. Call it  homework, if you wish. 

Good point. As of this moment I doubt I will put forth the effort to make a trip before the end of this year.

[BillyB]

Did that, good suggestion. She was at work and asked that I call her later. I confirmed what time I should call and did so within minutes of the predetermined time. No answer. Called twice more in the following half hour, no answer.

I would have told her right there "NO, the phone doesn't work at those times. We need to talk now." I would call her again and keep it short and simple by telling her the communication between you two is poor and that you can't have a relationship with a woman that you can't talk to. Being able to walk away from a pretty lady makes you look like a strong MAN. It's attractive. She would either do as you say and give you more communication through the phone and email or she'll wish you well if she's not interested anymore. You'll have your answer.

[Ludmila]

JR,

Yes, people do feel sick at times. Nothing strange about it.

You are still at the stage of "learning her ways, her character,  her " codes".

 

I am never biased towards people, BUT I allow myself ( and them) to prove this or that :

One time something undesirable happens-- is an incident

Second time the same happens-- may be a co- incidence.

Third time-- is a tendency ( or a character trait). Then i make conclusions accordingly. AND NOTHING CAN DISSUADE ME then.  ( if this happens three times, the chances she will " fall ill" upon your arrival become VERY HIGH.

 So, my point is " learn , analyse her ways, BEFORE you  " unchain your heart".

Stay the course, JR.

[Sculpto]

Communication to Tashkent is not very reliable.  I used to talk to a girl there and we often had the same problem with her phone ringing on my end and her never hearing it.  Last time I sent her an sms message she got bent because somehow my sms came through to her with a Russian number and she was sure I was in Russia and somehow deceiving her.  We never recuperated from that. 

JR.. have you looked into any of the van tours to Samarkand and Khiva?  If you decide to go you will be in a very very interesting part of the world and Tashkent is the armpit (craphole) of that country.  If I was going I would arrange for a van tour with any lady I was interested in.  They are not very expensive and look fascinating.

[Mars]

Last time I sent her an sms message she got bent because somehow my sms came through to her with a Russian number and she was sure I was in Russia and somehow deceiving her.  We never recuperated from that. 

Yes, this same thing  can happen if you use a calling card to call a number in FSU.  The calling card provider rents blocks of wire time from various providers including FSU providers.

So on the FSU recipients phone caller ID, the incoming call will show up as from a local number.

Then, hard to convince the FSU person that you are not already in country and deceiving them as to your whereabouts.

May not always be the case, can't testify to that, but it does happen frequently.  So best to try to warn them ahead of time.  But even the heads up warning may not suffice to convince them.

[facetrock]

  Mars, thats happened to me several times. Its weird trying to explain your not hiding around corner in her home town.

[JR]

Good advice Ludmilla. I didn't try to contact her this weekend but I'll do so tonight. At any rate a meeting at the end of this month isn't going to happen now as I'm very quickly running out of time to make preparations and I wanted to use the time from the last week for us to learn more about each other. We'll see what happens but the flavor of it is turning sour...

[BillyB]

Communication to Tashkent is not very reliable.  I used to talk to a girl there and we often had the same problem with her phone ringing on my end and her never hearing it.  Last time I sent her an sms message she got bent because somehow my sms came through to her with a Russian number and she was sure I was in Russia and somehow deceiving her.  We never recuperated from that. 

I always come out smelling like roses when a different number shows up on a RW's phone. Take what is a negative and turn it into positives. An opportunity to like this to build trust doesn't come around often when you are thousands of miles away from a woman. Capitolize on it!

I've had women think I'm in her town since the number showed up as local number. I've had women think I'm in the country next door since the number may show it's coming out of Russia.

When I'm questioned about this, I explain about the phone card I'm using and the contracts it my have with the various phone companies in the FSU. I then tell her to get a pen and write my phone number down. Of course the country code will be America's. I then tell her if she wishes, we could hang up the phone now and she can call me. The ladies always refuse. I then tell her she could call me anytime she wants.

Not only did I prove to her that I am where I say I am, I give her comfort that I don't have anything to hide such as a girlfriend or wife looking over my shoulder when I give her permission to call me anytime.

[JR]

I decided to send a rose. I have her name and phone number and I thought "What the hell, maybe she'll answer a local number. So I send a rose with a "wish you well" and please email me. I got delivery confirmation the next day and two emails a day later. She said "call me." So I did and no answer, LOL. Something is wrong with her phone system or my calling card. I have tried 3 different cells phones and two land lines, all using the same calling card. I think I am going to have to try a different calling card, mine might be getting blocked.

During this time I emailed her only once, why should I? I have her phone number right? She uses an internet cafe so that may not have panned out any better but the flower worked so I guess I'll beat my head against the wall a few more times

[Sculpto]

JR, the phones SUCK!  Yesterday it took literally 18 tries to get through to Tomsk.  Tashkent has to be even worse.  Go old school and find some other way to communicate with her.

[Jumper]

Call direct dial,
 and call at times (reasonable for her ) that the phone system load  "there" ,
should not be high volume.


now obviously during this next few holiday days , wouldn't be  a good time..

or just date the local RW you already met..

 

[JR]

or just date the local RW you already met..

 

Damn you AJ, stop being logical...Russian Wind already pointed out there is no adventure to that course of action!

[RussianWind]

or just date the local RW you already met..

She might be a nice person but she didn't touch his heart.

A direct call may work, it worths to try anyway. And she also can have friends who have the internet at home, you could try a video chat. Tashkent is really a long way not to try it before going...

[JR]

Direct call worked)) So I thought I'd try the cell/calling card and immediately called after I hung up the land line. It worked, we talked for about 45 minutes. First thing, she starts scolding me for not calling her!!!!! Have tried everyday since, many times, Nothing(((
Called another number in Tashkent, worked everytime))) Tried calling her number after a disconnect and....nothing((( Recalled the other number and got through to that person again)))

Grrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!

[Jumper]

well have her go to the other persons house !! or go get her for you !!
   



hey, if you talked for 45 minutes her english is at least decent?


and
i'm sure she could call you    (the phone does work both directions and often better from there "out" than "in")

and
i'm sure  she should be able to get a hold of you in email,

and
if she isn't trying to..

then
i really wonder at your sanity..    (more than usual)

you do realize there ARE other RW in Tashkent ,?  if you're set on that city..
and other people there seem to answer the phone!! 

 :selfharm:




 

[Jumper]

She might be a nice person but she didn't touch his heart.

A direct call may work, it worths to try anyway. And she also can have friends who have the internet at home, you could try a video chat. Tashkent is really a long way not to try it before going...

RW- well excuse me!  

I did not realize JR wanted his *heart* touched.. .  but if that's what he is  calling it now....

[JR]

well have her go to the other persons house !! or go get her for you !!
   

You're a funny guy Vinney, that's why I'm gonna kill ya last"   :evil:


hey, if you talked for 45 minutes her english is at least decent?

Her English is very good. That is one of my primary requirements in all of this.


and
i'm sure she could call you    (the phone does work both directions and often better from there "out" than "in")

Trying to get to that.
and
i'm sure  she should be able to get a hold of you in email,

Has and does)))
and
if she isn't trying to..

BANISH THE THOUGHT!!!

then
i really wonder at your sanity..    (more than usual)

Stop wondering, there is none)))

you do realize there ARE other RW in Tashkent ,? 

Haven't we had this conversation before?

 :selfharm:




 

[JR]

Well wouldn't you know it, I finally got through! She lost her job and had no money for her phone...

[JR]

So how about registering while there? Can you do it at the post office?

[RussianWind]

Well wouldn't you know it, I finally got through! She lost her job and had no money for her phone...

You are pissed off, me too. My account was just deleted from one site for no reason. The only reason can be they think I am fake and use someone's else photos. Damn damn damn  

I now understand girls who can't register if they look too much prettyyyy

[JR]

Hahahaaaa, we always suspected you are too pretty Now you're going to have to prove it!