Curious As To What To Do Now

[rockford75]

Hi Everyone,

Iam new to this site and iam here to give and seek advice from my fellow members. Ive been emailing a Russian lady now daily for 6 months now. Amazingly enough she found me on a dating site. From the beginning almost all she talks about is how she wants to meet me and come to Canada. Also she tells me about her life in Russia and I tell her about life in Canada. Shes expresses her love for me. To which I dont understand how you can love someone you havant met yet. She explains that she feels her biological clock is running out. She only 30 lots of time for kids and marriage. Iam curious how you know when a lady is sincere in her feelings and not just use you as a springboard to Canada? She seems like a very nice person and all but iam cautious online.

Any body have a similar experience to share?

[Gator]

Welcome Rockford75!

She found you which is something to be questioned, yet it is not necessarily a red flag. 

Six months!  If she were a scammer she would have asked for money by now. 

Are you talking on the phone?  If not, you need to.  It is not expensive with an international calling card.  Phone calls with spontaneous interaction reveal far more than emails.

The six months would suggest sincerity.  However, you are correct - it is not normal for a RW to express "love" without having met you.  In fact, the term "love" is more serious to a RW than with AW.  To express love is a red flag in my opinion, especially if you have not prompted her by saying you have strong feelings.  Discuss this with her.  Ask her directly why she feels this way. 

The only way to determine her sincerity is spending time with her and getting to know everything about her.  Are you thinking about making a trip?

[mies]

Hi Everyone,

Iam new to this site and iam here to give and seek advice from my fellow members. Ive been emailing a Russian lady now daily for 6 months now. Amazingly enough she found me on a dating site. From the beginning almost all she talks about is how she wants to meet me and come to Canada. Also she tells me about her life in Russia and I tell her about life in Canada. Shes expresses her love for me. To which I dont understand how you can love someone you havant met yet. She explains that she feels her biological clock is running out. She only 30 lots of time for kids and marriage. Iam curious how you know when a lady is sincere in her feelings and not just use you as a springboard to Canada? She seems like a very nice person and all but iam cautious online.

Any body have a similar experience to share?

i can answer about "biological clock". She is 30. Having kids before 36/37 is considered to be less risky than after. If she starts corresponding with you now, will meet you by 31, come to Canada by 32, maybe another year-two for adjustment to new country. Maybe she won't get pregnant right away when she'll decide she's ready - it may take some time, maybe another year. Then another 9mo to bear a fetus. By 35-36 she will have a baby.
Nothing wrong with her math that is.

[rockford75]

Actually iam brining her to Canada for a visit. I do believe in my heart she is sincere. I think its more she 30 and never been married and she wants a relationship and a family. I just said I wasnt going to rush anything. She wants to come to Canada so what the heck lol.. Ive looked in to sponsership and all and if things workout ill do it. But were going to meet and see where it goes. I truly believe she says she loves me cause she wants marriage. I said from the start we must meet and well see. Were not talking on phone as she says she does not have a phone. I do have her address which she gave out no problem. I really dont believe she out to scam me. Mostly cause she talks alot about her everyday life her hopes and dreams. I do know a couple local guys here who married Russian women and said itsthe best move they have ever made. As for a trip to FSU its not in my plans. As id rather be on my home turf till I meet her and see.

[mies]

Were not talking on phone as she says she does not have a phone.

the only possible options are:
she is a scammer
she lives with a man
maybe married

maybe you want to reconsider trip to Russia? At least you will travel and see the country, even if things don't work out with this woman. While if you arrange sponsorship for her visa and trip - if things go wrong it will be purely sunk cost and gloomy mood.

believing that someone has access to internet but does not have access to phone? Rockford, you are what - 34? Use common sense. 

[greg2654]

I hope your not actually going to send a bunch of money to some gal you never met or have even spoke to. If you do this may be a hard lesson learned.

[rockford75]

Lol.. No id never send money to someone ive never met! Thats just crazy!

[mies]

another question - do you want to spend 180 days x 1h = 180h (minimum) of you life writing to/thinking of a phony person? Being sincere, developing some emotions for an empty space?

i am not saying the girl is phony, but "don't have a phone" - is clearly a phony reason.  There are mobile phones, neighbors, university phones, job phones, post-offices with phones, finally - phones in the internet cafes. If she wanted to talk to you, and supposedly she's sending e-mails from the internet cafe - she could easily ask the staff of the cafe if she can receive a call on their phone for a tiny fee. And i'm sure they won't object. She could then send you an e-mail with their phone, and a time for you to call.

I can believe that she does not have a home phone, but all other options? 
 

I do not even mention skype, msn-call, and so on.

[rockford75]

Well I must admit I never thought of those options! I did mention a phone call she agreed to it but was just worried about the expense. Thanks you have givin me some options to work with.

[Gator]

What appeared somewhat innocent in the first post is now revealing itself as a likely travel scam.

Did she suggest that she travel to Canada?  From what i understand from our Canadian members of RWD, it is difficult to obtain a visa. 

The typical scam is to get you worked up about her coming to see you.  And then she explains how she needs money for tickets, visa, etc.

I assume you are 34.  How old is she?  Beautiful?

[rockford75]

Iam 42 And yes Ive already thought of the travel scam. Thing is why wait 6 months before you hit the mark up for cash? She has never mentioned anything about money.

[mies]

Iam 42 And yes Ive already thought of the travel scam. Thing is why wait 6 months before you hit the mark up for cash? She has never mentioned anything about money.

if the woman is interested in you - wouldn't you expect that she wants to hear your voice?

[rockford75]

Yes I agree!  Further to that after going over my emails from this lady. When she talked about coming to Canada,she claimed she went to a travel agency to check about prices for coming here. She said they would set her up with a visa and passport for 500.00 She did mention shed need help with the air fare which is fine but. For a Canadian travel visa youd have to go to the Canadian embassy in Moscow. For a passport iam sure youd have to go thru the Russian government. So iam thinking scam! What you fellas think?

[tim 360]

Rockford75, Don't do a thing.  This thing smells fishy.  6 months of daily emails and she doesn't have a phone?  Don't believe it for a second.  Cells are cheap and everybody has one, some girls have a few.  Scams?  There is the short scam and the long scam and this I think is the long scam which will unfold just as she tells you she is coming--then things will suddenly go wrong and she will need $$$...from you.

"Love"?  How does she love a guy she never met or even talked to?  C'mon.  

Don't worry, just don't send money even if she says a bus ran down her Grandma.  Its a numbers game she/he keeps playing 20-30 guys and a percentage of them will send $$$.

[I/O]

Thing is why wait 6 months before you hit the mark up for cash? She has never mentioned anything about money.

Oh FFS..!!! Another love sick puppy. This is a BS scam from start to finish. It's a standard template one at that.

[Vaughn]

Rockford - one other thing. You wrote earlier that you (supposedly) have her
home address...  so what have you done to verify it, if anything?

I agree with most here. Long term scam, based on what we read.

Phones are everywhere. Even in villages.

[mies]

So iam thinking scam! What you fellas think?

Tell her you bought on a whim ticket to her town and going to be there this coming weekend for few days. Tell her you want to meet. See how fast she will respond and what will she write. I doubt she will respond anything. Most likely - will disappear.
I did this with several "Olgas", "Yulias" and "Irinas" who were professing their undying love to me via e-mails. Given that I am a woman - sometimes for a change i write that i am a lesbian and love them too. Works equally well. I've shared this method in some other thread on this forum. Scammers apparently have very tender souls and are very old-fashioned and shy.  

[rockford75]

Thanks Fellas!! I love your style! Iam gonna play out the hand tho. With the iam coming to town  for a visit and see whats up. My gut been bugging me for awhile and iam glad I follow it! Tim 360 my man!! Were on the same page that is why i came here seeking advice!!

[Vaughn]

Another tactic, should you care to give it a whirl. Select a charming phrase
like "What a beautiful and wonderful my day has passed..." from one of her
letters - something unusual - and google it. Maybe one of your letters will
show up elsewhere, verbatim.

[RussianWind]

Ive been emailing a Russian lady now daily for 6 months now.

Of course she is a scammer. No normal woman would wait for so long. A normal woman would switch for somebody else.

Lol.. No id never send money to someone ive never met! Thats just crazy!

So you trully believe that a Russian woman will spend couple of thousands dollars to visit you? 

[rockford75]

I dont know if a Russian woman would spend 2000 dollars to see me.

[CanadaMan]

I dont know if a Russian woman would spend 2000 dollars to see me.

I do. PM me if you want to know the answer.

[rockford75]

Tell her you bought on a whim ticket to her town and going to be there this coming weekend for few days. Tell her you want to meet. See how fast she will respond and what will she write. I doubt she will respond anything. Most likely - will disappear.
I did this with several "Olgas", "Yulias" and "Irinas" who were professing their undying love to me via e-mails. Given that I am a woman - sometimes for a change i write that i am a lesbian and love them too. Works equally well. I've shared this method in some other thread on this forum. Scammers apparently have very tender souls and are very old-fashioned and shy.  

I took your advice and wrote her back. I said that me and a pal were going to Moscow for a couple weeks. She said she wants to meet me and is very excited. She also asked if id be hangin with my pal all the time cause she wants to show me around. Basicly she told me she wants couple time. Right off the hop she asking how much time am I gonna spend with her. Also she said since my pal was meeting his own date. Would I stay at her place with her family. She also asked when I head back to Canada if id be bringing her back with me. Well the poker game continues lol..

[Gator]

Amazing.

Do you feel like taking a trip?  Going there is far more informative than her coming here.  You meet her friends and family.  You experience her culture.  Is she from Moscow?

The RWD members will give you advice for minimizing the costs of the trip. 

If you are not interested in a trip, it is best that you forget about the idea of Russian women.

 

[RussianWind]

If you are not interested in a trip, it is best that you forget about the idea of Russian women.

Leave him alone. He prefers overseas shopping. Everybody learns only from own lessons.