homestays

[Oosik]

I'm starting to wonder if my 25 euro/night homestays will end up cramping my style re getting busy with the girl of my choice. Anyone else do this in the past? In kiev I will be sharing a house with an older couple and apparently a 29 year old daughter, in Chernigov, they list a woman's name, but no age info.

Kinda hard to put moves on if I'm not in an apartment or hotel room.

But then I'll get a lot more down to earth with the lifestyle.

[andrewfi]

I rejected the idea of a homestay when I was living in Russia. It will help you accomplish no goals except that of, perhaps, improving your command of Russian. It will act against you as you will be indicating to all and sundry that you are unable to support yourself properly and of course, you will not be able to 'entertain' in any normal fashion.

I did get friendly with a woman with whom I was origianally planning to stay and she told me that as a regular homestay provider that she did not recommend a stay of more than two weeks with one family.

Also, 25 Euro per night is enough to pay to rent a place for yourself, do some searches for makler in Kiev.

[Bruno]

Also, 25 Euro per night is enough to pay to rent a place for yourself, do some searches for makler in Kiev.

Usually, i rent appartment around 200$ month... From my personal experience, it is more interesting hire by month that by day... my last appartment in Nikolaev was 85$ for a week... and 200$ for a month... since my stay was 3 week, it was cheaper to hire it for a month and not 3 week...

PS: When you hire appartment, read the little letter of the contract... for my last one, i have not see that i need pay 80 grivna month for electricity/water/gaz...

[Oosik]

I'll only be in Kiev for 3 days, then to Chernigov for 7 days.

I better have a backup pad I am thinking.

[Albert]

Yes, a homestay will really screw up any romantic plans to be with a woman.  The owners will regard any woman as a whore who will come to your place, even though that is ridiculous.

If you are inexperienced in dating, a homestay might be OK for first week as you meet 7 women for first dates.  I say OK if inexperineced because such a guy probably won't try to get woman to his apt on first dates anyway.  And, this homestay might help you feel more comfortable as you find your way around the city, etc.

But, then for second and succeeding weeks, you need to be in your own apt.

If you are experienced dater, go for your own apt right at beginning and get the gals in your apt as soon as possible.

If you go the apt route first (and you are a first timer in the city), it is imperative that you have a good contact to help you get set up with ATM machines, Internet cafe, grocery stores, subway and bus passes, maps, etc.

[al-c]

I jon the majority here.  Not having your own place, whether it is a motel room or an apartment, speaks volume to the ladies you seek to impress that this guy doesn't rate.

If you are concerned about apartment or hotel costs, you should know that those costs are one of the smaller components of the total cost of searching for a Russian wife.

 

[anono]

homestay? sounds like something only a bleeding heart weakling lberal would do. how could any woman respect such a tightwad living at home with mommie?

[anono]

the above being the first bid to get this moved to the nhb section ))))

[Oosik]

Delete your posts, wrong section. Trying to get my thread moved by acting like this only shows poorly on you.

Homestays are a great way to learn about a town, how to get around, and how to live like a local. I wouldn't trade my homestay last summer for anything. It's just that this time it may not be best. But still, I'll learn a lot.

[Admin]

Delete your posts, wrong section. Trying to get my thread moved by acting like this only shows poorly on you.

Homestays are a great way to learn about a town, how to get around, and how to live like a local. I wouldn't trade my homestay last summer for anything. It's just that this time it may not be best. But still, I'll learn a lot.

Oosik,

It seems you have become the latest board 'lightning rod.' Quite an auspicious debut.

I would imagine anono would be willing to delete his posts, if you deleted (or edited) the posts you made attacking certain political segments.

Just a guess.

- Dan

[Oosik]

My posts were in NHB, not in the general section. I assume that acting like an A$$ is not tolerated here, while it is there.

[Admin]

My posts were in NHB, not in the general section. I assume that acting like an A$$ is not tolerated here, while it is there.

Oosik,

My VERY strong preference is that no-one acts like an a$$ anywhere on RWD.

Tolerated in NHB?? Well - to a point, but the simple facts are that the board's interests are not served by anyone intentionally acting up and wreaking havoc.

INTENTIONAL disruption is the purview of trolls, and the behavior elicits an appropriate response - no matter if the behavior is manifest in the NHB section or elsewhere.

- Dan

[Rvrwind]

I did a three month homestay my second visit. It was great. It was however with a friends inlaws & they are to this day still good friends.

I learned alot on that trip about the culture the language the overall way Russians live in comparison to westeners & much about their line of thinkin' on certain topics related to the west & westeners in general. IMHO a homestay can be very useful in many ways.

As for dating, well I ain't the type of guy that needs to hop into bed with every woman I meet, in fact if they are that willing to crawl into the sack, they are not for me. Sex to me is a byproduct of the relationship & by no means a way to evaluate the partner I choose. I choose first on more important criteria then if the sex is good or bad that will determine the final decision, but sex is deffinitly not first & foremost in my mind unless all I am looking for is a fling.

I dated many women that trip & they even invited them to their home to help me in my evaluation. The beauty of it was they spoke minimal English so they learned English from me & I learned Russian from them. I wouldn't change that experience for anything. There assessment of my present wife was one of the reasons I chose her. They both liked her from the minute they met her & warned me away from a couple of others. All in all it was a great experience I shall remember always.

RVR - Canadian Cowboy/Agency Owner

[andrewfi]

Given what Oosik originally wrote, I am sure that a homestay is not for him.

[Turboguy]

I have never done a homestay other than with the family of some women I was visiting.  I will call this my one cents worth since I don't have experience with it to make it worth two cents. 

I think if I were a tourist visiting Japan, a homestay would be the way to go and would be wonderful.  I think if I were seriously intereviewing and meeting women in the hopes of finding the right gal it would be a little more ackward.  I personally would prefer an apartment or a hotel.   I am not saying that just from a sex standpoint.   I think you could come and go easier, talk to the women easier and have a better central point to work from.  (yes, I think it is work the way a lot of us do it)

Do I think it would be a big mistake.  No, it would have it's good side.  I like the freedom myself.

 

[Marc Dayton]

My two cents

Put yourself in an RW shoes it will look like your being cheep, and it looks like you will pay a good price to look cheep ?

Are you looking for a wife or for new freinds ?

Freinds should come after you find a partner

 

 

[catzenmouse]

For a newbie just getting into this it would do them well to do a  homestay without writing or looking for any women. Give them a taste of  the country and people before they start. Then when they do go to meet  a lady they will not be such a lost puppy when they are there.

Ken

[Oosik]

Well, I will homestay in Kiev when I get there and then one day. I changed to an apartment in Chernigov. I really liked my homestay in russia, but like catz was thinking, that was an acclimatization tour more than anything. (I need spellchecker).

This time I really do want to be able to wiggle my eyebrows and suggest we go to my place.

Like Marc said, I'm not going to make friends. But I sure hope I do.

[Marc Dayton]

I have to be honest this is not just a bad way to go, but all of you are moon walking. He is meeting girls of his choice, and dose not wants to cramp his style. Do any of you think that and RW will think it's style to go to some families flat? What if you pop open a bottle of chaplain or wine just have two more glasses for your guest parents.

 

What put on some slow music turn down the lights and give your host parents a video camera?

 

What about this as well your host parents they will watch any girl you bring back to there flat like a cat looking at a bird just waiting for her to steel some small nothing thing from there flat. How do you think the RW will feel she will not come back for a second visit?

 

Please turn the light on and see what kind of problems this can make.

[Bruno]

[user=170]Marc Dayton[/user] wrote:

Are you looking for a wife or for new freinds ?

Freinds should come after you find a partner  

What kind of partner you search if it is not your friend... maybe you speak about business...

I cannot imagine myself have a love partner who is not my friend... friendship is the very basic thing for build a relation...

If your wife is not a friend, why have you marry her, how you hope to have some mutual understanding !!!

 

[andrewfi]

Bruno ~ what you say is true, but if one is making a visit for the specific purpose of finding a wife then the initial meetings will surely have much of the elements of business. Friendship and love will come some time after successful negotiations have been closed; but in either event, 'negotiating' from the vantage point of the living room sofa bed is hardly conducive to successful outcomes.

[Marc Dayton]

What kind of partner you search if it is not your friend... maybe you speak about business...

I cannot imagine myself have a love partner who is not my friend... friendship is the very basic thing for build a relation...

If your wife is not a friend, why have you marry her, how you hope to have some mutual understanding !!!
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How can I say this with my bad spelling. It was not ment as you have taken it. First in your words he should have a friend in a wife 100% with you on that.

I ment he needs to think more about the RW wants and needs then makeing freinds with a host family. Bruno you know RW well enuff all bet 50% of the RW would not like going to a host flat with 3 other pepole in that flat.

How can she talk to him with 3 other sets of ears in, and out of the room?

[Oosik]

Are you looking for a wife or for new freinds ?

Freinds should come after you find a partner

What kind of partner you search if it is not your friend... maybe you speak about business...

I cannot imagine myself have a love partner who is not my friend... friendship is the very basic thing for build a relation...

If your wife is not a friend, why have you marry her, how you hope to have some mutual understanding !!!


[/quote]

He was probably referring to how I made friends in P-K. Yes, the future Mrs. Oosik will be a friend. But making buddies with 60 year old host "parents" is not the true goal of this trip, nor is making male drinking buddies.

[Bruno]

[user=170]Marc Dayton[/user] wrote:

Bruno you know RW well enuff all bet 50% of the RW would not like going to a host flat with 3 other pepole in that flat.

Can be a 50%... but i think more a 100%...

No one FSU woman have accept a first intimate date in her own appartment... too much fear that neightbour see her with a foreign man...

Same for my own appartment, they was waiting that the old babuska speaking in the entrance go away...

The homestay is not bad idea... but in so case, if the relation evolve positively, he can alway take a hotel room when the time is needed... modern hotel are like our western hotel, they don't ask indiscret question...

 

[Marc Dayton]

Bruno,

 

hell 100% of the RW I know like a flat over a hotel for the same reasons. Who might see them go to hotel ?