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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #100 on: January 16, 2010, 02:12:35 AM »
Even the pot bellies get lucky now and then. 

We have plenty of similar ladies here.

Geography Lesson, The American Way!



Let us assume that poster was most definitely made by an American.

This is obviously an attempt to get back at the your saying "American women are fat, Europeans are hot"!

Guess who are the Europeans........ :P

Now, possibly, that outline on the right is the South American continent. And the one on the left (and that is much worse) is only Texas.

First conclusion, Americans suck at geography. Not just international but local as well. :ROFL:

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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #101 on: January 16, 2010, 03:00:29 AM »
Well, if you're talking Texans, then you need to understand that in their world Texas IS the United States.

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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #102 on: January 16, 2010, 03:05:44 AM »
Well, if you're talking Texans, then you need to understand that in their world Texas IS the United States.

Oh I know that they are .....a separate country..... not part of the USA  ;)

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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #103 on: January 16, 2010, 06:22:22 AM »
That is an overly broad statement, and an inaccurate generalization.  There are plenty of FSU women who can't cook, and plenty of WW who can. 
Knowing the definition of "can't cook" from both parts, FSU women win easy.  ;)

When WW can't cook it means they burn a pot of tea or a microwave dinner.
FSU women who can't cook are still able to cook frozen pelmeni.  ;)
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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #104 on: January 23, 2010, 03:51:24 PM »
Gee. Wizzy.
Couldn't even read through all that uhh mental defecation. Being one of these rude Russian bitches I have, in my utter lack of civil language ( caused by your post), to inform you that by the end of the first page I felt like I stepped, pardon me, in crap and have a deep need to wash. Nothing worse then passive aggressiveness presented as a "genuine" desire to help...
Hope your wife is not squeamish!
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Yikes!
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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #105 on: January 24, 2010, 03:11:46 PM »
JollyRatts

Are you fat with a pott belly man, with a fat wallet?

If not why are you looking in Taskent then?

No I am not fat.

I don't have a pot-belly.

I don't have a fat wallet.

I am looking 'almost' everywhere, this particular lady happens to be from Tashkent.
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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #106 on: January 24, 2010, 03:23:41 PM »
Geography Lesson, The American Way!



Let us assume that poster was most definitely made by an American.

This is obviously an attempt to get back at the your saying "American women are fat, Europeans are hot"!

Guess who are the Europeans........ :P

Now, possibly, that outline on the right is the South American continent. And the one on the left (and that is much worse) is only Texas.

First conclusion, Americans suck at geography. Not just international but local as well. :ROFL:



What is geographically wrong with saying that Europeans are hot? Are you saying they are not? So what if he's looking in Eastern Europe? Does that preclude one from stating that one thinks women from another area are hot?

So what if American women are fat? Many are. If they lose the weight they would be hot, just like their European cousins.

And as for sucking at geography no one I have ever met sucked more than my ex-wife from Moscow who has two master's degrees. She bought me a nice globe for my birthday and could not point to Italy, Egypt, Japan, etc....
Always be a first-rate version of yourself, instead of a second-rate version of somebody else :)

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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #107 on: January 24, 2010, 04:08:49 PM »
I didn't bother to read whole thing to the end, sorry, but since this topic was referenced somewhere else on the internet, I got curious. Gosh, I haven't been posting on this site for a while, nor have I been reading it...
In a nutshell, the author's opinion is understandable but bias. First, the country he is living in implies certain personality characteristics and the way he seas the word and other people, women in particular; therefore, the author has specific envision of ideal, and he expects FSU women to fit right in.
Second, unless he had been living in the FSU country for a wile he can not make such generalized conclusions. I guess he would disagree if I said that British men are quite snobbish, passively aggressive and absolutely cold. (This was my experience living in the UK for a short time and hearing it later from my friends here). Well, if I said so I'd be wrong simply because it would be over generalization (I'm being polite  ;)
Obviously the author's experience with RW wasn't pleasant. In his long detailed post I can sense some hidden anger or perhaps disappointment. May be he's got some personal issues, which he needs to work out with his therapist. Again, in the UK where emotions often are being suppressed, a therapist could be a good idea. :angel:
Overall, there is no such a thing as best women in Russia or elsewhere. As we say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In order to find a suitable partner for life we need to look at a woman as an individual with her unique personal characteristics and qualities, not the country (FSU in this case) she comes from.
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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #108 on: January 24, 2010, 04:19:13 PM »
I didn't bother to read whole thing to the end, sorry, but since this topic was referenced somewhere else on the internet, I got curious. Gosh, I haven't been posting on this site for a while, nor have I been reading it...
In a nutshell, the author's opinion is understandable but bias. First, the country he is living in implies certain personality characteristics and the way he seas the word and other people, women in particular; therefore, the author has specific envision of ideal, and he expects FSU women to fit right in.
Second, unless he had been living in the FSU country for a wile he can not make such generalized conclusions. I guess he would disagree if I said that British men are quite snobbish, passively aggressive and absolutely cold. (This was my experience living in the UK for a short time and hearing it later from my friends here). Well, if I said so I'd be wrong simply because it would be over generalization.
Obviously the author's experience with RW wasn't pleasant. In his long detailed post I can sense some hidden anger or perhaps disappointment. May be he's got some personal issues, which he needs to work out with his therapist. Again, in the UK where emotions often are being suppressed, a therapist could be a good idea. :angel:
Overall, there is no such a thing as best women in Russia or elsewhere. As we say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In order to find a suitable partner for life we need to look at a woman as an individual with her unique personal characteristics and qualities, not the country (FSU in this case) she comes from.

You are right in so many ways.  I hope you show up here more often.  We need a bit more calm sanity.
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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #109 on: January 24, 2010, 08:15:55 PM »
Wiz,

Your confidence in your opinion apparently does not translate into confidence in supporting your position with respect to my opposition of your view.
My previous post opposed your opinion and you have not, apparently will not, and seem to cannot defend your opinion based upon my comments.
Now, if you just flat out have no substance, then your opinion stands. But, your position without a rebuttal to opposing facts show your opinion
stand on its own as very weak, without proof, without substance, without merit, and is as valid as 10 = 100 -110 or any statement that is
plainly false. I had more hopes for a man who wrote with such confidence.  Perhaps my hopes were too high.

Since a "long post" seems to bother you, I'll try to curtail the facts. You use a statement I said, quote it, take it out of context, omit the rest of sentence and
use that as your supporting statement as if I proved what you said is correct. The part of that statement is "my wife is subborn." What are you thinking
sir? Are you saying you never disagree with your wife? If you do not, then my hat is off to you. If you do, then you described your wife in your post.
I really don't think it's very nice to say these things about your wife. I'm using your thinking in forming an opinion. Perhaps your extreme choice of words is
the problem. You have not supported your original post with facts, and you now have another statement that you need to prove.

Russian women appear to be straight because English or American language is not their first language, therefore they say things .....as is! Sometimes they sound very blunt because they have not the gift of a car salesman!

On the other hand most male posters would not admit that they went to the FSU to find a woman, above their level in terms of appearance (they want them slim, very pretty and young) and then when the divorce becomes a reality they wonder where and why they went wrong.

What is it with you? You say "...most male posters."

1. Do you mean posters on this board? If so, prove it. You make absurd statements like the one above and hide behind excuses when
asked to prove what you say with facts. All I am asking for is proof! I want proof that supports "most male posters."

2. I was not aware that you have were privy to the trips that most men took to the FSU. Were you with all of the men you refer to in statement above?
If no, how do you know? I want to know your secret in knowing what you say. I'm very impressed with your knowledge. But, I want proof.

3. "...most male posters would not admit that they went to the FSU to find a woman." I will use your way of taking partial statements and
ask if you thought most male posters were going to look for men. Do you see how ridiculous it is to take partial statements?

4. You refer to the divorce of "most male posters". Really?  We know the ones here on this board and maybe you know of some other divorces?
Now, pardon my implication, but I assume you mean divorces between FSUW and AM/WM. I know of one; but your statement implies you know
of "most other men". Can you prove this claim?

It's difficult to curtail opposition to such absurdity in some of the statements you write. But, I look forward to reading your long posts that
support your statements above and that answer my earlier opposition to your original post. I would even read a book about your supporting
documentation. So, don't worry about me tiring out reading long posts. Write away with your supporting opinion.

Mark

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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #110 on: January 25, 2010, 07:13:31 AM »
OK everybody but you will have to wait fro my replies for a simple reason.

While you were posting many answers, I happen to be away in Greece and I just arrived back to the UK and REAL life takes priority than the cyber life and the boards. When I am done with everything I will then I will reply to everyone in the same date order as your posts.

Meanwhile some very quick comments:

DAR

Where else this subject it was discussed please?


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Are you saying you never disagree with your wife? If you do not, then my hat is off to you. If you do, then you described your wife in your post.

I really don't think it's very nice to say these things about your wife.

Where in my posts I ever made reference to my wife and how you can make the assumption that if I dissagree with her, THEN I discibed her in my previous post?

This hypothesis, assumption and your judgement about my behaviour towards my wife, is ALL YOURS and has nothing to do with my postings. You personalise your comments and not me!

Just because I pointed out to your own comments, about your wife "can be stubborn" that does not give you the liberty to go on making up all the above so to reach to your desired result and critisism reagarding my behaviour towards my wife!  :(

May I remind you and the others that I have spent nearly a year living in Russia and visited Ukraine several times, and that is my personal experience, which I think comparing with some other people is a lot more that they can show!






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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #111 on: January 25, 2010, 08:17:39 AM »
Gee. Wizzy.
Couldn't even read through all that uhh mental defecation. Being one of these rude Russian bitches I have, in my utter lack of civil language ( caused by your post), to inform you that by the end of the first page I felt like I stepped, pardon me, in crap and have a deep need to wash. Nothing worse then passive aggressiveness presented as a "genuine" desire to help...
Hope your wife is not squeamish!
 :cluebat:

Yikes!

If you couldn't even read through to all my Mental Defecation, how can you experess then an opinion without knowing all the facts?  :wallbash:

On the other hand ......if you had read through all my crap you would not have tript over it because I made the post not to offer any help to any body!

Looking your avatar, I guess you are an FSU woman and I have never met one who would accept any of those traits I mentioned earlier. Would you EVER accept such traits for your own character, if it's true?

Making reference to my own Russian wife shows your innability to discuss such difficult and critical subjects without becoming personal!  :puke:
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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #112 on: January 25, 2010, 08:22:27 AM »
Geography Lesson, The American Way!



Let us assume that poster was most definitely made by an American.

This is obviously an attempt to get back at the your saying "American women are fat, Europeans are hot"!

Guess who are the Europeans........ :P

Now, possibly, that outline on the right is the South American continent. And the one on the left (and that is much worse) is only Texas.

First conclusion, Americans suck at geography. Not just international but local as well. :ROFL:


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Probably.......LOL

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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #113 on: January 25, 2010, 08:36:57 AM »
I didn't bother to read whole thing to the end, sorry, but since this topic was referenced somewhere else on the internet, I got curious. Gosh, I haven't been posting on this site for a while, nor have I been reading it...
In a nutshell, the author's opinion is understandable but bias. First, the country he is living in implies certain personality characteristics and the way he seas the word and other people, women in particular; therefore, the author has specific envision of ideal, and he expects FSU women to fit right in.
Second, unless he had been living in the FSU country for a wile he can not make such generalized conclusions. I guess he would disagree if I said that British men are quite snobbish, passively aggressive and absolutely cold. (This was my experience living in the UK for a short time and hearing it later from my friends here). Well, if I said so I'd be wrong simply because it would be over generalization (I'm being polite  ;)
Obviously the author's experience with RW wasn't pleasant. In his long detailed post I can sense some hidden anger or perhaps disappointment. May be he's got some personal issues, which he needs to work out with his therapist. Again, in the UK where emotions often are being suppressed, a therapist could be a good idea. :angel:
Overall, there is no such a thing as best women in Russia or elsewhere. As we say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In order to find a suitable partner for life we need to look at a woman as an individual with her unique personal characteristics and qualities, not the country (FSU in this case) she comes from.

No point replying to your personalised remarks, put downs and insults because you already admited that you read about the subject elsewhere and came over with your preconceived ideas just to do that.

Secondly it would be more helpfull if you would have read through therefore you would know the backround of my experience but you didn't!

Finally I would suggest you go back and read the title again plus the subtitle, then you may understand the meaning behind the Original Post!  ;)


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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #114 on: January 25, 2010, 08:55:57 AM »
Wiz,

Your confidence in your opinion apparently does not translate into confidence in supporting your position with respect to my opposition of your view.
My previous post opposed your opinion and you have not, apparently will not, and seem to cannot defend your opinion based upon my comments.
Now, if you just flat out have no substance, then your opinion stands. But, your position without a rebuttal to opposing facts show your opinion
stand on its own as very weak, without proof, without substance, without merit, and is as valid as 10 = 100 -110 or any statement that is
plainly false. I had more hopes for a man who wrote with such confidence.  Perhaps my hopes were too high.

Since a "long post" seems to bother you, I'll try to curtail the facts. You use a statement I said, quote it, take it out of context, omit the rest of sentence and
use that as your supporting statement as if I proved what you said is correct. The part of that statement is "my wife is subborn." What are you thinking
sir? Are you saying you never disagree with your wife? If you do not, then my hat is off to you. If you do, then you described your wife in your post.
I really don't think it's very nice to say these things about your wife. I'm using your thinking in forming an opinion. Perhaps your extreme choice of words is
the problem. You have not supported your original post with facts, and you now have another statement that you need to prove.

I have already replied to you on a previous post!

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What is it with you? You say "...most male posters."

1. Do you mean posters on this board? If so, prove it. You make absurd statements like the one above and hide behind excuses when asked to prove what you say with facts. All I am asking for is proof! I want proof that supports "most male posters."

2. I was not aware that you have were privy to the trips that most men took to the FSU. Were you with all of the men you refer to in statement above?
If no, how do you know? I want to know your secret in knowing what you say. I'm very impressed with your knowledge. But, I want proof.

3. "...most male posters would not admit that they went to the FSU to find a woman." I will use your way of taking partial statements and ask if you thought most male posters were going to look for men. Do you see how ridiculous it is to take partial statements?

4. You refer to the divorce of "most male posters". Really?  We know the ones here on this board and maybe you know of some other divorces?
Now, pardon my implication, but I assume you mean divorces between FSUW and AM/WM. I know of one; but your statement implies you know
of "most other men". Can you prove this claim?

It's difficult to curtail opposition to such absurdity in some of the statements you write. But, I look forward to reading your long posts that
support your statements above and that answer my earlier opposition to your original post. I would even read a book about your supporting
documentation. So, don't worry about me tiring out reading long posts. Write away with your supporting opinion.

Mark


Waffle, whaffle, waffle....prove what?

That most male posters go to FSU to find a slim, young and very attractive woman, who will accept a large age gap?

You obviously don't read around this board and missed the various comments made or you are trying to deny the truth!

Did you missed all those posts and travel reports and also the number of divorces that took place last year and the posts made on this board?

Marcus I am going to search around to give you links to such posts neither I am going name people.

Most people who read this board reguralrly know for which people I am talking about!





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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #115 on: January 25, 2010, 09:38:48 AM »
LOL...Wiz,
My wife says she agrees with what you have said about FSU women, in fact she said that if she was a man the FSU is the last place she would look for a woman. (to tell you the truth though, she is just such a fantastic one)

I think maybe people get a little confused when reading your original post. I had to read it several times myself before I understood that you were for the most talking about your ex wife/gfs for the most. (your past experiences).

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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #116 on: January 26, 2010, 05:14:29 PM »
Ok, Wiz,
Following your advice I've read through some more of your posts here. Well, what can I say?
You obviously like to write, write quite lengthy detailed masterpieces about Russian women and argue your point with many opponents. Despite, quote, "real life priority" over a virtual one you still find plenty of time to read and analyze profiles of other members on this board. You also make sure that you point is heard and understood in a right way. Details are your thing, aren't they? 10 trips to FSU even after several failures and still with a hope, isn't it because everything was supposed to be just right, precisely right? or you are as stubborn as most RW (that would be understandable since we're looking for someone like us)? I am not being insulting here.
 I don't want to debate with you on the subject but I think that a couple of remarks are necessary here.
1. You got married in the summer of 2008, don't you think it is a bit premature to draw any kind of conclusions? come back in a couple of years to talk about your successful marriage, a wonderful Russian wife and your happily ever after, please. This would be a reasonable advice assuming that, according to your words, MOST of RW are jealous, possessive, extremely opinionated etc  ;)
2. And, since I've already mentioned such a beautiful word as jealousy, let me talk about it more. We, Russians, just love to talk (once again, according to you), so I would hate to disappoint you.
I feel absolutely comfortable when my husband talks to another woman. Moreover, I trust him and a thought of him approaching another woman has never crossed my mind. Do you know why? Because I know that it is hard to replace such a precious diamond as I am :D My husband's word is enough for me in order to know he'll never have an affair with another woman. Likewise on his side.
You represent majority of RW as jealous freaks. I simply would say that I have met twice more jealous men then women throughout my life. Furthermore, in my opinion amount of jealousy correlates with physical age and person's maturity - our emotionality decreases as we approach our senior years. As we mature we are more in control, we are able to understand and appreciate different things in life. Conclusion: may be you did not look in an appropriate age group, or your inappropriate behavior triggered certain response, so to call jealousy or possessiveness. We have not observed you in a social situation. But the fact that every women you had met in Russia exhibited exactly the same patterns of behavior may tell us something about your personality. I will not go on into more details here.    
3. You should have expressed everything you meant to in your first post because not everyone is going to read through more then a page. Your first post is most important and some people are going to respond to that post. That's the nature of any forum, c'est la vie ...
And to finish up, I guess that you don't speak Russian, so there is no point in telling you where else on the internet your topic came up.
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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #117 on: January 26, 2010, 05:39:40 PM »

And to finish up, I guess that you don't speak Russian, so there is no point in telling you where else on the internet your topic came up.

Are you a regular at Antidate Dar?

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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #118 on: January 26, 2010, 06:59:20 PM »
Are you a regular at Antidate Dar?
Faux Pas, not at all. I am not familiar with Antidate (out of curiosity I couldn't resist to cheek it out though :). This topic appeared on another forum, the one for Russian women living abroad. 

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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #119 on: January 27, 2010, 02:25:32 AM »
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Ok, Wiz,

Following your advice I've read through some more of your posts here. Well, what can I say?

You obviously like to write, write quite lengthy detailed masterpieces about Russian women and argue your point with many opponents. Despite, quote, "real life priority" over a virtual one you still find plenty of time to read and analyze profiles of other members on this board. You also make sure that you point is heard and understood in a right way. Details are your thing, aren't they? 10 trips to FSU even after several failures and still with a hope, isn't it because everything was supposed to be just right, precisely right? or you are as stubborn as most RW (that would be understandable since we're looking for someone like us)? I am not being insulting here.

Glad that you read through my posts and started to understand a little about my views but more importantly I must thank you for your very eloquent reply and your perfect English and writing style, which I enjoyed tremendously and of course I did not find your post insulting!  :clapping:

Unfortunately my standard of English lacks in many ways but yes, I do enjoy writing on the boards about many subjects and not only about Russian women. Writing an A4 size message it doesn’t take me more than 10 max 15 minutes but with posters like you I am more careful and spent more time in my replies!

May I remind you that I am officially a retired person therefore, I have plenty of free time in my hands, while my wife is working and also that doesn’t take me hours and hours to do the jobs, I have to do, for my Real life!

Of course I find necessary and appropriate to view the profile of the other member before answering to his/her posts and because of my previous work I have become accustomed to keep an eye on the details. I am sure you would agree that it’s only right paying attention to details before writing a reply to any subject!

I have to admit that I am a perfectionist and it is my view that if you do or create something, either do it correctly and to the best of your abilities or don’t bother at all!

You may think I am stubborn but I would say I am persistent to get the required results. A stubborn personality it’s a trait of a narrow minded person who will never accept or admit that the view of another person it’s maybe right and that in my view verges to sheer stupidity! On my part I will debate the views of the other person and I will not hesitate to admit that I am wrong. I am aware that nobody is perfect therefore my wife and I can’t be either. I will admit that I have many failures in my character and naturally I will avoid amplifying them but I will not try to hide behind my finger or put my head in the sand, when my errors are pointed out to me!

May I also point out to you that I am not hiding behind the anonymity of Internet to express my strong views, which some people find objectionable and uncomfortable and I have no problem posting my real name and photos because at the end of the day I am who I am and if people don’t like me for my views, then too bad! Other people are not that honest and open because they don’t have self confidence or have other ulterior motives to hide!

Just for your information before even travelling in the FSU countries I have come to contact with many women from there, in Greece and also here in the UK so I had some kind of experience before I started visiting Ukraine first and then Russia.

Also for your information I have visited Ukraine 12 times for business, travelled around a lot organising holidays there for the UK market and of course while there I did not fail to observe the abundance of very beautiful women. Been a Mediterranean single and free of any commitments I am sure you realise I paid closer attention to the subject matter and finally I made my decision to look to find a partner there.

In another place where I posted my complete “Russian Love Affair” I explained that I approached this adventure, like always did in my professional life, as a business plan to make sure I can increase my chances for success!

As I was nearing retirement age, at the time, I created a personal web site as my profile, giving enough honest information about myself and after a couple of message exchanges directed any woman interested in me, there, so not to waste mine or her time. That also helped me to avoid any scammers, because naturally there were many pages to read and scammers can’t waste time with people like me!

Of course you realise that I was looking for a woman who could speak good English or at least elementary so she could understand what I was writing there. It is my view that if you want to create a good relationship, good communication between the couple is very important right from the start and it's also the cornerstone of any relationship!

One of my requirements was that I was looking for a woman without or any children’s commitment because at my age I was not going to be able to play football or chase them around! Also advised them that I am a heavy smoker and I am not likely to change my habit! Additionally I told them I am only a pensioner therefore they should not expect any luxuries but just a normal daily life. I made no other promises but for your information I like travelling often and visiting many places and I know that my wife likes my hobby and she also enjoys travelling with me whenever we get the opportunity to do so.

Finally I made clear that I was not going to even consider a woman below 40 years old. There was no need for me to look for a very large age gap to find a slim and beautiful woman, when there is such a huge pool of RW over 40 years old, to dive in and hopefully find what I was looking for! I was looking to find a partner for life and not only for a few years ornament on my side, and that is what I did.

Of course I met few Ukrainian women and later I changed my direction and started looking to Russia. I met a couple of women from there, had a disastrous relationship with one of them for 7 months and then I moved on. Luckily I came across to my wife and as I said at the moment I am happy. What the future brings to us is unknown and I hope that I will continue to improve and have a good relationship with her. I visited Russia 7 times meeting my ex and another 7 times my current wife, lived there nearly a year, and had a couple of trips to Greece for meeting and having a holiday with one RW.

So that is my brief story in a nutshell and experience for you to know!

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I don't want to debate with you on the subject but I think that a couple of remarks are necessary here.

1. You got married in the summer of 2008, don't you think it is a bit premature to draw any kind of conclusions? come back in a couple of years to talk about your successful marriage, a wonderful Russian wife and your happily ever after, please. This would be a reasonable advice assuming that, according to your words, MOST of RW are jealous, possessive, extremely opinionated etc   

I have already answered to this comment earlier.

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2. And, since I've already mentioned such a beautiful word as jealousy, let me talk about it more. We, Russians, just love to talk (once again, according to you), so I would hate to disappoint you.

I feel absolutely comfortable when my husband talks to another woman. Moreover, I trust him and a thought of him approaching another woman has never crossed my mind. Do you know why? Because I know that it is hard to replace such a precious diamond as I am  My husband's word is enough for me in order to know he'll never have an affair with another woman. Likewise on his side.

That is your personal situation but not necessary apply to “Most” Russian women. I have different experiences in that score!

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You represent majority of RW as jealous freaks. I simply would say that I have met twice more jealous men then women throughout my life. Furthermore, in my opinion amount of jealousy correlates with physical age and person's maturity - our emotionality decreases as we approach our senior years. As we mature we are more in control, we are able to understand and appreciate different things in life.

I said RW are jealous and control freaks and that is because of their insecurity and ownership that they exhibit in their relationships. I do not dispute that there are also men of the same calibre too. I agree with your further comments regarding age and maturity.

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Conclusion: may be you did not look in an appropriate age group, or your inappropriate behavior triggered certain response, so to call jealousy or possessiveness. We have not observed you in a social situation. But the fact that every women you had met in Russia exhibited exactly the same patterns of behavior may tell us something about your personality. I will not go on into more details here.

Regarding the age group I was looking into I have already answered. I am a very sociable person but that doesn’t mean that I go looking around or acting inappropriate in a social situation. If RW are lacking of socialising experience and take my open socialising attitude as inappropriate then it’s their problem and not mine. Actually my wife read your post and when I questioned her about it, she said I never gave her a reason for inappropriate behaviour during the past 2 ½ years together.

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3. You should have expressed everything you meant to in your first post because not everyone is going to read through more then a page. Your first post is most important and some people are going to respond to that post. That's the nature of any forum, c'est la vie ...
I thought my first post was very precise on the subject but you don’t expect everybody to stick to some narrow guide lines and for this reason I had to expand later with my answers. Many people questioned my motives and also did not paid attention, as you did, how I arrived to such conclusions…… but then you are also a normal human and could not avoid personalising your comments instead of talking in general terms!

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And to finish up, I guess that you don't speak Russian, so there is no point in telling you where else on the internet your topic came up.
No I do not speak Russian but I have always translated the pages and I do get the gist of what is been said!

The AD girls had a field time about me…….and when I posted there in English, none of them made any decent post replying to my comments but all of them took one sentence and made some silly comments ignoring the rest of my post.

Oh yes I had plenty of good fun exposing their double standards and taking the piss of those poor hypocritical and desperate women who wanted to vent their frustrations on me and I did also helped them to restore their site when one of their “victims” hacked their board!

Any how nice to read your comments and I am glad that you have a long happy relationship. I hope soon to match your achievement so far!

PS: Sorry for the long post but I ought to reply to your coments very comprehensible, as it deserves.

Hope you are not bored  :D

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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #120 on: January 27, 2010, 06:34:14 AM »
Faux Pas, not at all. I am not familiar with Antidate (out of curiosity I couldn't resist to cheek it out though :). This topic appeared on another forum, the one for Russian women living abroad. 

Thank you Dar. I ask for no other reason than my curiosity. There have been many RW from Antidate that have followed threads on RWD. I think several have stayed to post from time to time. I see by your post count that you are not exactly a newbie. In any event, Welcome to RWD

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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #121 on: January 27, 2010, 08:51:34 AM »
Dear Wiz...

Being highly opinionated by your own definition, and also carrying all the other flaws you so kindly listed even after your uhhh... lengthy quotes I still think that you should make some love instead of writing. Unless this excessive writing of yours is a  mental condition. In which case... by this age - just write and be happy.

Viva graphomania.


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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #122 on: January 27, 2010, 12:34:56 PM »
Dear Wiz...

Being highly opinionated by your own definition, and also carrying all the other flaws you so kindly listed even after your uhhh... lengthy quotes I still think that you should make some love instead of writing. Unless this excessive writing of yours is a  mental condition. In which case... by this age - just write and be happy.

Viva graphomania.

Dear Serious ….

How nice and refreshing of you making comments on my previous posts trying to prove that my comments are true regarding RW and of course I must thank you for giving me an excellent advice in finding fulfilment in my intimate life. Did you by any chance have forgotten your reading glasses elsewhere? Apparently so, I may say.  :(

I am sure you wouldn’t believe me but I must tell you that I don’t remember my wife complaining for neglect in that area of our intimate relationship or your comments are an observation of your own circumstances?  ;)

Your expertise in mental illnesses is beyond reproach therefore you are either a professional or a sufferer of such condition in which case I bow to superior knowledge.  :P

In any case I would kindly suggest to you to practice a lot or reading to improve your comprehension of elementary English first, before offering your esteem and sarcastic advice.  ;D

It is obvious that my comments hit a raw nerve at your manor and for this I can only feel sorry for you!  :(


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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #123 on: January 27, 2010, 02:22:31 PM »
Hmmm, Wiz...

Diagnosis confirmed... Each comment gets at least doubled in length response... Excessive use of smileys...

One thing for sure - I 'll go do some reading to improve my, oh so basic English... Fortunately not through your posts though so don't bother replying... Or do if you cant help it. Doesn't matter in any case.

Oh, and as for your opinion about Russians... See a swine can find dirt everywhere, just like people with your mind set find negative sides in everyone. You get what you give... maybe thats why Russians didn't seem all that nice to you.

All the best.
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Re: Russian women are not the best on the world
« Reply #124 on: January 27, 2010, 11:47:01 PM »
Hmmm, Wiz...

Diagnosis confirmed... Each comment gets at least doubled in length response... Excessive use of smileys...
Thank you Doctor Froyd for your Diagnosis. I made use of excessive smiles for you NOT to miss the meaning!

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One thing for sure - I 'll go do some reading to improve my, oh so basic English... Fortunately not through your posts though so don't bother replying... Or do if you cant help it. Doesn't matter in any case.
I was right when I said you forgot your glasses and can't read correctly!
 I was making reference to MY OWN basic English and not yours.

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Oh, and as for your opinion about Russians... See a swine can find dirt everywhere, just like people with your mind set find negative sides in everyone. You get what you give... maybe thats why Russians didn't seem all that nice to you.

All the best.

Typican reply from people like you, who can't debate or answer any of my comment, then they resort to personal attacks and insults!

Big mistake dear, I  get on very well with most Russians because there is very little difference in behaviour between Greeks and Russians. The Greeks help you to create your Vocabulary and the Russian language is using countles Greek words,which helps me to understand MOST Russians........the ones that I don't get on are people like you with a close mind.

It would have been more productive if you could have debated my points instead of posting sarcasm and hurling insults but then your aim was to prove my comments right! :D

Thank you and best regards


 

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